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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 11/29/2004 5:21:38 PM   
    nickr100


     

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    hi all,

    would a Zenoag 38 fit in one of these beauties???

    cheers

    nick

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 11/29/2004 5:54:34 PM   
    SpudRacer


     

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    OK, I thought I had a handle on this 85 degrees, vs. 90 degrees difference, but now I'm not sure anymore. An 85 degree retract would have the wheel 5 degrees PAST perpendicular when the gear are down, righth? Meaning that the gear come down, then go 5 degrees beyond perpendicular to the full down position whereas a 90 degree retract would be perpendicular to the wing when fully down? That is my understanding. Am I right? Does a true P-51D have 85 or 90 degrees?

    Sorry for being a pain, just need more clarification.

    Also, All the picutes of P-51D I have show the offset portion of the strut on the inside of the wheel, not the outside, so it seems to make sense to me that if you excavate the bottom of the wheelwell further to make room for the offset portion of the strut, it should close completely. Am I off base or dead on?

    By the way, I've ordered an LED lighting kit from Curtek RC lighting. This shouldn't add more than 1-2 oz. I will incorperate two landing lights in the scale location. Work to begin on December 5th.

    Thanks again.

    Tom

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 11/29/2004 6:12:11 PM   
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    The wing is not flat - it has dihedral. Mustang gear are at 85 in order to be perpendicular like the Spring airs in mine.

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 11/29/2004 7:42:12 PM   
    taildraggerdave


     

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    85 degree gear means that it opens ALMOST to 90 degrees, not passed 90. So, as Capt G said, the wing has dihedral in it so 85 degree gear puts the struts vertical and perpendicular to the ground. Hope this helps.

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 11/29/2004 8:16:38 PM   
    Bill Yonescu


     

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    Hi Capt G.,

    Your P-51 looks great.

    I just returned the Spring Air Retracts because I didn't want to cut into the wheel hole area of the wing to clear the scissors. Your struts don't seem to have the scissors. Am I correct?

    If not, which struts are they?

    Also, do the doors wind up fitting flush with the wing?

    Thanks,

    Bill

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 11/29/2004 9:18:40 PM   
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    Yeah , they have the scissors. You just have to cut off a corner of the wheel well plastic. A little ply filler and paint and it looks like it was made that way. The doors are almost flush - about 1/8" below the wing. when it zooms by at 90+ MPH you don't even notice.

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 12/3/2004 3:02:09 PM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Darrell B.

    If you look at a picture of a full size P-51, you can see that the offset portion of the strut actually goes into the wing on the inside of the wheel. The gear doors cover the upper strut, and the wheel. The wheel well might have to be made deeper, ie. cutting out a slot in the plastic to accept the offset portion of the strut. An 85deg retract will work fine if it is set up in the stock manner.


    A good reference, but there's a difference in the full scale and the H9. On the full scale, the pivot point of the gear is well within the wing, so when it rotates within the wing, it is deep enough for the offset to be within the wing. On the other hand, the H9 gear pivot point is (if you don't relocate the mounting rails) closer to the bottom side of the wing, so, like I said before, with an 85 deg. retract, the main part of the strut will be (barely) within the wing, but the offset will stick out below the wing.

    It's a subtle point, so if you can't visualize it, go back and look at my earlier post (#111)- I did the geometry on CAD to scale and posted a pic before I made my decision.

    BTW, Capt G, et. al., after two years of flying the hell out of my Marie, she finally bought the farm a couple of weeks ago (pilot error)... may she rest in pieces. I've decided to get a TF giant RTC to glass and customize- also, it will be a true "giant." I'll be putting a Moki 2.10 in her, and I hope she flies as well as Marie did.

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 12/4/2004 12:11:38 AM   
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    [color=#FF0000]Originally posted by Countryboy
    True, but look at it like this. When you are gutting the plane after it augers in "And It Will Eventually" which do you want to be tossing in the trash bin.... a thirty buck spinner "or" a one hundred & thirty buck spinner. [/QUOTE]

    I'd rather toss a $60 Dave Brown spinner than a $30 spinner that I spent 2-3 hours machining/balancing, but that's just my preference. Plus, the chances of killing a spinner on a crash aren't very high. Lastly, I don't plan on crashing


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    Mulligan,

    Sorry too hear you lost it, but I have to ask... did the spinner survive?

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 12/4/2004 3:02:53 AM   
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    Yep

    Actually, pretty much everything did... except the balsa. It was one of the most minor crashes I've seen where the plane couldn't be repaired.

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 12/8/2004 4:41:09 AM   
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    Mulligan - real sorry to hear about your Marie. After I get my chipmunk done - my next is a Ziroli 98" P-51. Got all the stuff ready - 3W75i power.

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 12/8/2004 3:41:38 PM   
    SpudRacer


     

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    As I am a relatively new-pilot to this sport, I have decided to put as much insurance into my P-51 as possible, to include a 2800mAh 6V batter for the receiver/servos, a twin cylinder on-board glow driver with separate 5000mAh battery, and I have finally decided to install a Co-Pilot CPD4 automatic pilot to help me learn the flying characteristics of the plane without crashing in the process, then I hope to wean off and eventually remove the system once my skills are up to par.

    Has anyone tried an automatic pilot??? Where would be the best place to mount a small 1" sensor?

    Thanks,

    Tom

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 12/8/2004 8:10:31 PM   
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    Spud Racer,

    I don't know your total flying experience, but the automatic copilot maybe overkill. The plane is a great flyer and pretty much flies where you point it. If you can fly a low wing pattern or sport plane, you should be okay. If using flaps to land, keep about a 1/4 throttle on to land.

    Oriole

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 12/9/2004 12:24:20 AM   
    SpudRacer


     

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    Oriole,

    OK, I'll reveal my ignorance, this is the FIRST R/C plane I've ever built. I've flown a full-sized Mooney, and a full-sized B52H bomber, so I have some real time experience, but the only models I've flown have been control-line models as a kid. The closest I've come to flying a real R/C is the fact that my dad bought a P-51 kit about 30 years ago (the kit is still unassembled in his closet, no joke). I've had the R/C bug since I was a child, but never had the time, or the place to fly them, at least that's what I told myself. Well, I moved to Bryson City, NC and was taking care of a nice gentleman who told me that he was part of an R/C club here in town. "We fly every weekend" he told me. I went out the the local airstrip one weekend and watched about 6 planes fly, I was hooked and it was time for me to start.

    Please don't lecture me about starting with a trainer or a high-wing slow flying "BORING" plane, cause everyone in my club has already done that, time and time again. I do not want my first plane to be a boring, ugly, cheap trainer. I want a memorable first plane, and with 14 years of Air Force behind me, a military plane was my obvious first choice. Initially it was going to be a Corsair, but everyone told me they were very hard to fly. I starting thinking about a P-51, and read the reviews on the Hanger 1.50. It's supposed to be easy to fly. I've logged hundreds of hours on a flight simulator, but am scared to death when flying the plane towards me I'll forget that you have to push the aileron stick toward the dipping wing.

    This is way too cool of a plane to trash it the first time up, hence my decision for an auto pilot. Call me stupid for starting with such an expensive plane, and if I crash on my first flight, then everyone was right.

    I spend a couple hours at the field every weekend, just listening and watching, trying to learn the tips of the trade, and asking lots of questions. I'll post some pictures of my "marie" when she's done, then video tape my first flight. I'm also planning to put in a "Black Widow" video camera, mounted in the "radiator" intake scoop. That way not only can my wife video the first flight, but the on-board camera can capture the moment should I pummel it into the ground on the first flight. Hopefully the auto pilot will work as advertised and keep the wings level. If I get out of control, all I have to remember is to just "LET GO OF THE STICKS!!" I thought of using a trainer cord to the local club guru, but most of the experienced pilots in the club fly mostly 3D planes which sit in the air spinning around in one spot, which I find very boring to watch. Nobody has a plane this nice, so the thought of putting my faith in someone to control my plane only fills me with dread. IF he can't save it and flies it into the ground on it's first flight, I'll never even get a chance to fly it, and it would be hard to trust him again. If I crash it, I want nobody to blame except myself.

    Tom

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    RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 12/9/2004 1:30:02 AM   
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    Tom - dude - do yourself a BIG favor and start flying a Trainer ARF while you're building your Marie. You won't be sorry. If you were out here I would give you some help. Two words - "buddy box". G.

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