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Asanders -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/15/2003 3:27:17 AM)

Nice photo Capt G ! I love it !



pettit -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/17/2003 2:47:21 PM)

BTW, this plane "is available". Complete, no receiver.

Email please



P-51B -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/17/2003 2:56:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pettit

BTW, this plane "is available". Complete, no receiver.

Email please


What is the settup you ended up with?



pettit -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/17/2003 2:57:10 PM)

I live in Durham, NC. I can deliver within 150 miles, if the Hurricane doesn't deliver it sooner!



P-51B -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/17/2003 3:04:46 PM)

Never mind, I found it back in the posts I was looking at (you know the old forest for the trees routine!)

Century jets with a saito.



pettit -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/17/2003 3:06:04 PM)

By "setup" I assume you mean equipment and performance.

I used the Saito 200 Inline Twin turning an APC 18-6 wide prop at 8500 static. Exhaust is Saito flex pipes. Uses Century Jet retracts with stock wheels and adjustable air valve. Hitec HS-425BB servos all around (except HS-55 on air valve) 1650 mah NiMH 5 cell battery Tru-Turn 5" spinner, JHM DGS-2 on-board glow lighter, graphics, pilot and dash by Cajun.

Flies just fine. Weighs just over 16 pounds dry. Not absolute vertical, but good enough for 2 victory rolls. Lands fine with or without flaps. Sounds like no other engine I have ever heard. Not like an opposed twin, more like, well, an inline 6!

Duplication cost would be well over $2000.00

Bottom line? Knock off 30%. No trades.

May consider without engine and on-board glow, but you'd need another chin cowl, or use the same engine. For this, knock off 50% from duplication cost



rckymtn1 -> retract (9/18/2003 1:43:48 AM)

Countryboy..., in response to your post no. 120 on the century jet retract.., is the p/n, etc you used as per century's site as follows:

Hargar 9 P-51 150 with 1/2" Struts
Product #: 35388

"These landing gear are specifically designed for the new 77" wing span Hangar 9 P-51 150. They come with 2 upper mechanism, two 1/2" diameter stainless steel oleo struts, axles, and air system".

Were you able to put the doors on, and how are they working out for you so far? Easy modification to install? Was the above P/N what you installed?

thanks...



oriole -> RE: retract (9/18/2003 8:04:25 PM)

Hey Pettit,

Why are you selling this aircraft? It's only been on the market a couple of months?

Oriole



LBECKWITH -> RE: retract (9/19/2003 4:44:36 AM)

I am getting some spring loaded struts from Canada to replace the supplied 9forever bending) wires that come with the H9 P-51 1.50. Due to some time out of time out of town I won't get to fly with them until after 10-1. I'll post a report then. PS: I tried heat treating the supplied wires but they got so brittle that one snapped in half. Horizon told me today that they are ready to take orders for some new titanium wires for this bird but shared some concern that a bad landing could cause some damage to the retract support rails.



krkenned -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/19/2003 7:13:07 PM)

Just got mine in yesterday. Stole it for $355 NIB. This is a great looking plane. Any ideas on where I can find black 4-blade props?



limitlss -> RE: retract (9/19/2003 11:33:26 PM)

I epoxied and fiberglassed in some 1/4" aircraft grade ply under the rails. It really seems to have helped.



Countryboy -> RE: retract (9/20/2003 12:44:45 AM)

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retract (in reply to pettit) Contact Moderator | (Post No. 182)




Countryboy..., in response to your post no. 120 on the century jet retract.., is the p/n, etc you used as per century's site as follows:

Hargar 9 P-51 150 with 1/2" Struts
Product #: 35388

"These landing gear are specifically designed for the new 77" wing span Hangar 9 P-51 150. They come with 2 upper mechanism, two 1/2" diameter stainless steel oleo struts, axles, and air system".

Were you able to put the doors on, and how are they working out for you so far? Easy modification to install? Was the above P/N what you installed?

thanks


rckymtn1,

Yes, that is the correct p/n for the retracts. To install the retracts in the stock mounting rails is very easy, with only minor trimming necessary. The drawback.... the wheels will not be fully in the well. The back side of the tire will be exposed outside the wheel well. The strut will also not be recessed enough to install the doors flush with the skin.
The only way to remedy this is to modify the mounting rails to get the gear deeper into the wing. This will hold true for other retracts of similar style to the Century Jet retract. Witness that Mulligan went through the same problems while installing Robart gear.

Hope this has helped in answer to your questions.



rckymtn1 -> RE: retract (9/20/2003 2:53:22 AM)

thanks countryboy..., that answers it....

how have they been working out for you so far?



hawk103 -> RE: p51 (9/20/2003 1:55:43 PM)

I have the hanger 9 p51 150 size. Ive flown it 11 times, and 11 times she nosed over on landing. how do I resolve this??????????

are the wires flexing back and breaking cg?? people suspect at the field.
can any one help??. and its a grass field.
thanks hawkman103



skyking650 -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/20/2003 9:01:39 PM)

Hello,

Flown 5 flights on mine.....very easy to assemble and flys perfectly.

Engine: Saito 180, 18x6 prop

Radio: Futaba 9ca

Servos: All 3004s except rudder Hitec 585 metal gear, retracts Hitec 75BB

Battery: 1400MAH NMHi

Ran a tank of 15% through it on the ground at 4000 rpms or less, then took to the sky. The engine runs flawlessly and is still slightly rich. Control throws are aggressive on high. Flaps work! No crazy ballooning..you can run out and catch the thing landing with flaps!

Using Dave Brown Aluminum spinner. Balanced at 6.375" required 8 OZ lead attached inside of engine compartment. Total weight is 15lbs

Using factory retracts, the retracts work perfectly..but the wire is soft and bends regardless of how soft you land (I fly off of grass) The airplane has no tendancy to nose over during takeoff or landing. One NOTE: I had to strengthen the stringers that hold the landing gear in place as they cracked after the first landing....be aware of this.

I am going to try a set of Robart 660 struts with a pair of cut off 3/16 grade 8 hardness bolts (using the long shank as a wire). This should cure the only problem that this airplane seems to consistantly display.

Otherwise, it is easy and fun to fly, gets crowd appeal, and looks awesome along side of my GS Corsair, 1/3 scale pitts and F-16 at the flying field.

Best of luck



dennisB -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/20/2003 9:25:23 PM)

I just ordered one from a place called Doug's Hobbies in MD, any of you guys done business there?



flyboy1950 -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/20/2003 10:53:15 PM)

Hey Larry B. I'm sticking with the stock retracts and using Robart 662 offset Robostruts. I just got the stuts today and won't be flying for about 2 weeks. I plan to go in and rebuilt the gear mounts and stregthen them. I fly off grass and have generally found the arfs need a bit of beefing up in those areas so instead of rebuilding later, I thought I would make them right from the start. I beleive the stock gear is 90 degrees. Someone else said 85 but my measurements say 90. I will have to modify the mounts so the gear resesses in farther for the offset. I'll report how it works when I'm done and fly. Flyboy 1950.



flip-flop-fly! -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/21/2003 2:37:01 AM)

i too am trying to decide which p-51 the hanger 9 1.50, the top flite, the wm, or theres another one that im really interested in and thats the iron bay (byron) p-51 its not so much an issue about $$$ even thou im into value. i just want the best quality i havent been able to get the specs on the iron bay model but ive been able to compare the others and the hanger 9 looks the best so far. any info or comparisons would be great. this is going to be my 1st. low wing and i want to make it a "keeper" thanx guys, Ted aka flip-flop-fly!



mulligan -> RE: p51 (9/21/2003 1:51:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HAWKMAN103

I have the hanger 9 p51 150 size. Ive flown it 11 times, and 11 times she nosed over on landing. how do I resolve this??????????

are the wires flexing back and breaking cg?? people suspect at the field.
can any one help??. and its a grass field.
thanks hawkman103


Where's your CG? Mine is a tad behind the recommended location when dry, and I'm able to keep mine upright on our grass field. With this CG location, I've not had any flying stability problems at all- rock solid.



clayfoushee -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/21/2003 4:54:47 PM)

Larry B.

Doug's Hobby in Waldorf, MD is one of the best shops in the country. Ask for Doug or Jim (his son). Both are extremely knowledgeable, can find anything you want, and offer very fast UPS shipping. I've ordered 10-15 times over the phone, and everything always arrived quickly and in perfect condition. They offer a 10% discount to our club (you should ask), but their prices are already consistently lower than almost anything I've priced at places like Horizon and Tower.

Clay



dennisB -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/22/2003 3:53:08 PM)

Thanks Clay, just what I wanted to hear!!



LBECKWITH -> RE: retract (9/23/2003 1:42:59 AM)

limitlss: Can you post the picture of your custom made spring loaded struts for the guys in this forum so they can see them??



limitlss -> RE: retract (9/23/2003 5:01:33 PM)

Here you go!



clayfoushee -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/24/2003 4:44:56 PM)

Limitlss,

Those struts look nice, and I may consider them. However, I'd really like to find a solution that allows the landing gear bay doors to be mounted. Any possibility of a fit with your solution?

Clay



limitlss -> RE: Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 (9/25/2003 12:43:53 AM)

I'm working on a couple of ideas for mounting the gear doors on my struts. Once I finalize my choice and iron out the bugs, I will post it here.

Cheers!



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