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RE: RE: - 7/16/2012 5:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am going the same way with the DLE 30cc gas engines. I have one now on a Pitts and it is a great little motor. My 310 will have a built up wing and hope to get the fiberglass fuse after I save up a bit. Robart retracts will make if look like it should. Hope I can find someone willing to let a wing kit go, that would be great!

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RE: RE: - 7/16/2012 6:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		The firewall is liquid. By this I mean you move it forwards or back to fit your engine. The Nosen 310 was designed around .60 two stroke engines so yeah Your going to have to move that wall back in the design if you want to run gassers in it.

On the gassers you may want to design a box system that the 3D guys seam to like.

I'm going to run side mounted G-2300 23cc glow engines in mine. My problem is going to be the G-2300's 24 oz fuel tanks.

I guess you guys will be running 10 or 12oz tanks for your gassers.

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RE: RE: - 7/17/2012 1:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello wittmanm

30 cc would fly this the 310 with authority, I have 25cc Converted Homelite Bandits on mine.
I am redesigning the Mufflers now to inprove the exhaust exit. I have a little too much back pressure
which limits the RPM's once that is done she will fly a lot better. Don't have any 30cc motors
a couple of quadra 42's in other planes , but there are a couple at our field and they run great.
Fuel wise I have my tanks right behind the motors mounted sideways and they are 18oz each
more then enough Fuel with reserve for a 10 to 15 minute Flight. Keep us informed of your progress.
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RE: - 7/22/2012 12:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have been thinning out my giant scale collection getting ready to start on my 310 this fall. Twin 30cc DLE, retracts and the glass fuse. Looking forward to joining the pilot ranks on this beutiful bird. I have been modeling for over 50 years and I finally am going to take th plunge while I can still lift the parts!

You all have inspired me to a point I can no longer resist! I do not think I can devote the time to a full build thread but I can highlight the construction process. I am sure that the input from everyone would prove invaluable.

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RE: RE: - 7/23/2012 3:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will be posting the sale of my Nosen 310 Kit and G & L Fiberglass. I am totally overwhelmed with large scale kits and unfortunately the 310 is not at the top. I went on a buying spree the last few years and over did it. Time is moving on too quickly for me and I am making very little progress on my current projects. Please let me know if there is any interest in the kit and/or the G&L fiberglass fuse and other parts. I would like to see this get into the hands of someone who can get this built and flown. The 310 is one of my favorites but the kit and G&L parts will just gather dust.

I will keep monitoring the thread to see how all of the others are doing.

Thanks,

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RE: - 7/27/2012 11:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone had time to evaluate the Hobbyking T28 gear for. 310 use?

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RE: RE: - 7/27/2012 12:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not I. My 310 project is four planes out.
1 Ultra Hots
2 Giant Sweet'N Low Stick
3 1/4 scale Super Cub
4 Cessna 310

Oh and a 18,000 btu AC for the garage. 98 degrees is ridiculous.

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RE: RE: - 7/28/2012 3:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've started my 310 build months ago and then flying season hit, so it's on hold for now. Have some other small projects before getting back to the build. I also need to clean up my hanger/build area to make room for this huge airframe.


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RE: RE: - 9/30/2012 5:12 PM   
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Well I finally desided on the engines I am going to put in the 310. The Mentor 33cc. I like the three year warrenty.
I got them and I now in the process of breaking one of them in on my airplane. What a sweet motor and lots of power.
I haveto move the firewall back and then try to place the gas tank and servo for the engine. It's guna be fun putting 4 lbs of Sh in a 2lbs space
but I will make it work.

Ok going flying so later

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RE: RE: - 9/30/2012 5:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good looking engines. How are you going to mount them?

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RE: - 9/30/2012 5:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tempted to start my 310 project as a winter build.

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RE: RE: - 9/30/2012 8:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not sure if I will side mount or inverted. Depends on how much I would have to cut out the cowl for cooling on side mount.
haven't looked at it that close yet.

BTW.. How come your not out flying???

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RE: - 9/30/2012 9:46 PM   
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RE: RE: - 10/3/2012 3:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		We have an new member that wishes to join us, help me welcome:

Member # 63 alexzach777 from Canada

Come on in Alexzach777 and introduce yourself and let us know what the plans are for
your Nosen Cessna 310.

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RE: RE: - 10/6/2012 6:51 PM   
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#23 member   will sell my 310! needs to be finished rigging and painting , airframe has been glassed with z-poxy resin .  Robinair retracts that work fine, 3peice wing.  Aircraft was flying in monakote and fourstrokes before I started.  1500.00 Local pickup only   Houma La.   trosclairbilly@yahoo.com



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RE: RE: - 10/7/2012 1:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Gang we have another Nosen Cessna 310 owner joining our ranks,

#64 pat s from North Carolina

Welcome aboard Pat how about some pics of your 310.

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RE: RE: - 10/21/2012 1:02 AM   
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Spotted a Nosen kit on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUD-NOSEN-CESSNA-310-VINTAGE-MODEL-AIRPLANE-KIT-FREE-SHIPPING-NO-RESV-/221142129993?pt=US_Character_Radio_Control_Toys&hash=item337d191d49

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RE: - 10/21/2012 5:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just a little off topic with respect to a 310, but, still noteworthy. Beechcraft Heritage Museum in Tullahoma, TN is having their Beech Party this week. I saw what appeared to be a Bonanza V tail flying over with a major problem. It was a TWIN lol. I drove out to the airport / museum to take a closer look. It turned out to be a Baron 55 that someone changed the tail to a V tail like the Bonanza. Im going back out later with my camera to try and get some shots of it. Not sure if the Baron 55 or 58 had a V tail option???? But there is one now lol.

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RE: RE: - 10/21/2012 5:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Amish, was in your neighborhood this last week. Wife and I were on vacation / aniversary in Asheville and Maggie Valley. I think thats bout 150 miles from you? I got a brother that lives just north of Charlotte. Maybe next time Ill send you a PM and we can all get together.

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RE: - 11/5/2012 1:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi there all.

I am in New Zealand.

I recently bought a part built Bud Nosen Cessna 310Q (the longer nose variant?).

It has Robart tricycle retracts installed and a pretty good job seems to have been done of it so far. I would like to upload some pics of it but cannot see how to do that on here.

I am wondering where I could find a suitable windscreen for it.

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RE: RE: - 11/11/2012 1:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Viv, the only Cessna 310-Q kit I know of is the Royal kit but it was a smaller aircraft
with a 73" wingspan, were as the Bud Nosen Cessna 310 is the "G" version and has the
120" wingspan. However it may also have the nose slightly modified to look like the "Q"
version. The fiberglass fuselage that G & L Hobby sells is real close to the 310-Q. There
is a template on the fuselage plans sheet for a windshield and it should be close to what
you need, if you send me a e-mail to vdiedric@yahoo.com I will forward you the full plans
set in digital format that you can have printed at one of your local blueprint shops or by
someone that is capable of printing 36" wide drawings.

To upload pics of your 310 you need to click on reply to one of the topics or messages that
is in the thread that you want to post the pics to and down at the bottom of the reply message
you will see wher is says "Click here to upload images and files!"


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RE: RE: - 11/11/2012 1:54 PM   
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RE: RE: - 11/11/2012 6:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: frankeldan
So.. The surfaces are a bit large for the low profile  servos. Try the line of servos of HD servos. Troybuilt Models carries them. I bought a load of these last season and used them in everything from a 60 size bird on up thru my 50cc models. No failures at all and I'm hard on my planes.

HD-DS120M 178 oz-in at 6v Digital Servo with universal connector and Futaba arms  28.99


Also .. I would suggest a good  digital servo for throttle that has better centering than the cheapies for repeatable throttle control.




Terry,

So.. The surfaces are a bit large for the low profile  servos. Try the line of servos of HD servos. Troybuilt Models carries them. I bought a load of these last season and used them in everything from a 60 size bird on up thru my 50cc models. No failures at all and I'm hard on my planes.



HD-DS120M 178 oz-in at 6v Digital Servo with universal connector and Futaba arms  28.99


Also .. I would suggest a good  digital servo for throttle that has better centering than the cheapies for repeatable throttle control.


Dan



I do not see that one listed on their page any more.  In fact the only one I saw was this one:
http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items/HS7955.html
but that is $90

Their servo list jumps from 144 in oz to 373 and is at:
http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/category/SEHI/Hitec-Servos.html 
which shows the JR8711 at 373 in oz.

What is being used for servos in these big birds now?  I have a 310 that was built in the early 80's so I have some big EK Logitrol servos in it.  It has never flown as I am still trying to figure out how to mount the Quadra engines I got at that time as they are too big for the cowl.

Thank you.



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RE: RE: - 11/12/2012 12:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		HI Guys!

I've been lurking here for a couple of months since I picked up a Nosen 310 cheap from a Craigslist ad. The plane had been built as a "display" piece and was hanging in this guy's rec room. It actually looked a little rough, and it did have a pair of K&B .61 engines mounted on it but no servos and it had never flown. I bought it mostly for the wing and the plans that came with it. I'm planning on replacing the .61s by installing a couple of SV-26cc engines, and an old but serviceable set of Likes Line retracts. Once it's flying, and I have the bugs worked out, I'll buy the G&L Fuselage and do it up right.

I too have been using Power HD servos in a few planes, and I have no complaints so far. You can get a better selection of the HD servos from HobbyKing.com. They do seem to run out of the Hi torque servos on a regular basis, but you can subscribe to be notified when the new batch comes in. I'm using a set of the HD 1214Th digital servos in my 33% Extra 330L, with a pair of them driving each aileron. These are 230 oz-in coreless digitals, and they are supposed to be HV, but I'm not sure tha tI'd trust them at 7.2 volts. I using a pair of 2400MAh A123 cells at 6.6v to power them, and that seems to work well. Oh, almost forgot to mention the most important part, they were only $33 each! So far setup in the Extra looks good, I'll let you all know how well they perform when I get her in the air!

I just checked HK, and the HD 1214s are not in stock at the moment, and in fact are not even currently listed; but I found that it helps to check the site often.

I've picked up a few good tips here that I plan to incorporate in my rebuild. Unfortunately, I won't be getting to the project until this winter, and there are two others that need finishing first!

Troy built should still show the HD1501 servos these are rated at 236oz-in and are analog. They are reccomending them for their line of ESM warbirds

Mooney Driver, I'd get rid of those old Quadras and pick up a couple of 26cc to 30cc engines, as they are much lighter and more than adaquate power. Also they'll fit in the cowls better!

Keep up the good work!

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RE: RE: - 11/12/2012 1:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for that Bill - will drop you an email.

Meanwhile, here are some pics of the model. Paid $500 NZD (=$400 USD).

I have a pair of OS FT-300 twins I am thinking I will put in it.

Cheers
Viv
New Zealand

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