Prediction for r/c future?  
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Tower Hobbies
Enter up to 4 keywords or Tower stock numbers
Logged in as Guest



Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
       


30%EXTRA330L & DL50 combo - ARF
Seller:  peakmodel
Details:   $879.00   |  10/18/2008   |  Classified Ad
We will rotate YOUR AD in this spot if you select "Forum Featured" when placing or editing your ad!

All Forums >> Radios, Batteries, Clubhouse and more >> The Clubhouse >> Prediction for r/c future?
Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4 5 6   next >   >>  

Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Prediction for r/c future? - 6/20/2003 12:59:21 AM   
Sport_Pilot



Posts: 7820
Joined: 1/21/2002
From: Acworth, GA, USA
Status: offline
[QUOTE]Originally posted by phillybaby
This photo shows thats already happened [/QUOTE]

How do you Brits get by with tiny cars and big planes? Oh! A delta! Fits nicely in the back of that hatchback, Eh?

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 51

Prediction for r/c future? - 6/20/2003 1:05:41 AM   
Cactus.



Posts: 6138
Joined: 12/19/2001
From: CamborneCornwall, UNITED KINGDOM
Status: offline
coz we brits is smart

_____________________________

My half dead website www.philsrcworld.fsnet.co.uk new site coming soon.
Redruth & District model flying club www.rcflye

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 52

Prediction for r/c future? - 6/20/2003 3:02:44 AM   
FrankC29



Posts: 787
Joined: 4/29/2002
From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
Status: offline
I predict this thread will never end. Ever Ever.

I also predict that folks will always, in some fashion, fly model airplanes. They'll keep crashin' too, I suspect.


_____________________________

Save Trees...fly S.P.A.D.
Frank Costa

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 53

Prediction for r/c future? - 6/20/2003 4:28:38 AM   
Ptarmigan



Posts: 392
Joined: 2/3/2002
From: Houston, TX,
Status: offline
Battery for electric RC airplanes are smaller and light and provide more power.

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 54

Prediction for r/c future? - 6/22/2003 10:34:51 AM   
MrCoffee-RCU


 

Posts: 69
Joined: 5/26/2003
From: Chicago, IL,
Status: offline
From the looks of it, it is all going to the park flyer. Hobby shops are already full of the simple (what you call SPAD) plastic and/or foam planes that don't really need much assembly. In fact, hobby shops already sell more RTF planes then ARF. These are models like the Firebird, which comes with everything including the radio and runs on the 27 mhz frequency. Most of these models are lighter then kites, and can do little damage when or if they strike something.

At one of the hobby shops, a sales manager told me that they could demonstrate one of those models in the parking lot, and nobody even questions it. It's looked at just like somebody flying a kite!

The larger gas powered models will still be with us, though. But those few who purchase them will be the most dedicated to the hobby. There will be fewer of them made, because there will be fewer places to fly them due to the increase in population density and noise ordinances. Then, of course, there's the liability issue.

The best of times for a kid, really, was the late 1960s and early 1970s where plastic control-line models were common in every school yard. By the time I was 13, they had all but disappeared from the parks and school grounds. This was too bad, because there is less for a kid on a bicycle to see, do, and be curious about. I still look for people to fly models in parks to this day, but never see them. Even the Estes model rockets are extremely rare, if ever seen in action! It didn't help much when model rockets got banned at the park that I was working at over night during a Stockade (similar to boy scouts) camp-out.

Here is what I would hope for: I would hope that model airplanes will be seen as a valuable, and fun tool for recreation. The hobby needs to sepparate its self from aviation and aerospace studies, and focus on fun and pleasure. This thought about somebody learning R/C because "I want to be a pilot" or "I want to learn how to design and build a guided missile" must come to an end. Instead, let us think about: "I want to fly an R/C model airplane because it looks GREAT, is colorful, and the way it streaks across the sky just like that hot-pink Hawian stunt kite being flown in a soccer field on a perfect day!"

The C/L hobby craze back in the '50s through the '70s was inspired by the romance of full-scale aviation, only to eventually sputter due to lack of opportunities for those dreaming of growing up to be a pilot. Take R/C for what it is, a fun sport. Don't worry about "recruiting young minds to inspire them to design the next Boeing 7**". Build the ARF, SPAD, or what ever. Fly it. Tell someone else about it because "it's more fun then skate boarding or Nintendo". Kids will listen!

MrCoffee

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 55

Prediction for r/c future? - 6/22/2003 2:59:04 PM   
nascarjoe


 

Posts: 287
Joined: 2/25/2003
From: Olcott, NY, USA
Status: offline
I predict that because of RC being seen on TV - shown to 35 million people, the industry and AMA will realize that the current promotion/training system had to change. Meaning that the promoting of the hobby/sport will be like what auto dealers do, which is offering the public a test drive (flight for RC).

All 10,000 AMA flying clubs WILL absolutely guarantee that anyone will be able to receive at least an hour of on demand flight training.
Also, RC flight training will be listed in the Yellow Pages, where ANY ONE can call ANY TIME to fly either/or an RC airplane or helicopter. RC flying will become as popular or more so than golf, as a result, there will be so many qualified instructors available that they will be tripping over each other to give the public flight training. Only problem might be there will always be very, very long waiting lines at every flightline - with 6 planes in the air at all times....nevermind.

nascarjoe

< Message edited by nascarjoe -- Jun 22 2003 10:05AM >

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 56

Prediction for r/c future? - 6/22/2003 3:28:18 PM   
rchawaii



Posts: 239
Joined: 12/23/2001
From: Ewa beach http://spadunderground.biz, USA
Status: offline
quote:

Build the ARF, SPAD, or what ever. Fly it. Tell someone else about it because "it's more fun then skate boarding or Nintendo". Kids will listen!


Amen that.

_____________________________

[center][link=http://spadworld.net/]If You Can't build it, don't fly it.[/link][/center][hr][center]Click to go to the SPADW

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 57

Prediction for r/c future? - 6/22/2003 9:05:20 PM   
lnorris


 

Posts: 612
Joined: 1/31/2002
From: Oklahoma
Status: offline
Hmm, how about this.

1. Major distributors will stop selling kits and go all ARFs.
2. Smaller distributors will spring up filling the niche. The price and availability of small laser CAD controlled systems will spur this (hopefully).
3. Balsers Builders and Spaders will finally understand each other.. They'll realize that Spadders like to build using cheap and simple materials that will fly well and survive a crash. Builders like the engineering of building with fragile balsa to build a light plane that flys VERY well and don't care about it's crash survivability as they don't plan on crashing...

It might happen in a conversation like this:

Spadder: Oh ya, I can crash 100mph into the ground and just change a prop. I can also build dozens of these for $5 a piece and you should see how many I can get into my car!

Balser: Well you just go ahead and crash them into the ground if that's how you get your jollys. I prefer flying. Although I'm not sure why you build dozens of planes if you only break a prop? And of course, I only need one plane in my car as I don't plane on crashing it...

ARF'er: Oh ya, well mine are expensive and don't survive crashes very well, don't fly all that great, and take almost as long to assemble as a kit, but hey, if I crash it, I can buy a clone.

Spadder and Balaser then look at each other, laugh at the ARF'r, and go out and get a beer leaving the ARF'r wondering if he forgot his deodorant once again....

PS. Don't start flaming me. I build/fly both for different reasons...

< Message edited by lnorris -- Jun 22 2003 4:26PM >


_____________________________

If you aren't breaking something, you're not trying hard enough...

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 58

Prediction for r/c future? - 6/22/2003 9:09:55 PM   
vtol_guy


 

Posts: 897
Joined: 1/13/2003
From: Driffield, UNITED KINGDOM
Status: offline
lnorris: i'm peeing myself laughing right now!!

i think thats a good summary there to help balsa builders and spadders to repsect each other,

the ARF guy though, !!!! man that was funny!!


_____________________________

I Am Sam.

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 59

on a more serious note.... - 6/22/2003 9:39:27 PM   
lnorris


 

Posts: 612
Joined: 1/31/2002
From: Oklahoma
Status: offline
And, and as a continuation of #2...

I deal mostly with computers and mostly with Open Source software. This software you can get, modify, compile, but have to release your modification/bug fixes back to the general public. This produces programs that you can have for free that are better (more features and fewer bugs) than anything Microsoft has ever dreamed of.

I can see a form of that coming to our hobby. For instance, these small shops will realize that they can't do a manual near as well and the internet can produce. They will make plans for a kit, get a kit cutter and then release to a few people to build. These people will document their build process (with pictures) in forums such as these and the kitter will refer people to them. Any good "mods" can then be worked back into the plans making for better and better planes.. This will also keep the cost down.

You can already see this with Spads as I believe it's been a collective effort to design a lot of these.

All we need are designers to release sets of plans that have a different licensing/copyright scheme...

_____________________________

If you aren't breaking something, you're not trying hard enough...

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 60

Prediction for r/c future? - 6/22/2003 10:15:56 PM   
Tattoo



Posts: 2124
Joined: 2/10/2002
From: Wichita, KS,
Status: offline
This is great stuff ...kind of makes it hard to drink my morning coffee when it's coming out my nose

Talking about the future and building with Coroplast. All the kidding aside, it's getting big and showing no signs of slowing down. Even 3 years ago, our local sign shop decided to try mail order coroplast, and we hung his shingle as a link on the Spad site. He had to hire two people to cut and ship coro all day to keep up. He was a jerk, and didn't care about customer relations, and soon started loosing business as Spadders found Harbor sales and Regal Plastics. Long story short, we pulled his link and don't deal with him any more. Now...many Spadders can't get coro locally, and if they can, very often it's over priced. This has been very good for the two biggest mail order sources for coro to modlers (Harbor and Regal). But...ordering from large whosale places has it's disadvantages...miminum orders to get free shipping, buying entire sheets (4'x8') when you don't need that much (especially when you want to mix colors) as well as cutting fees and how to get it cut and flute direction.

With that said, my prediction for the future is that supplying coro to modelers is going to keep growing exponentially (read as keep exploding). The first guy that picks up on the fact that modelers would love to buy coro from a supplier (fellow modeler) that knows what they are building, caters to how and what size to cut it, be willing to mix and match colors, have all sized and color available, and generally becomes the R/C modeler's Coro-Connection...is going to make a killing.

To give you an example of how many people are into this. In the last 3 years there have been approx 500,000 front door hits on the Spad web page. People bookmark what they are working on, and the inside activity at spadtothebone is mind blowing. The largest month ever was April, where there was 2,700,000 page hits...in May there was 2,200,000 page hits. June is on course to break April's record. These visitors are coming from 84 different countries so far.

< Message edited by Tattoo-RCU -- Jun 22 2003 5:23PM >

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 61

Prediction for r/c future? - 6/23/2003 12:30:51 AM   
Cactus.



Posts: 6138
Joined: 12/19/2001
From: CamborneCornwall, UNITED KINGDOM
Status: offline
[QUOTE]I can see a form of that coming to our hobby. For instance, these small shops will realize that they can't do a manual near as well and the internet can produce. They will make plans for a kit, get a kit cutter and then release to a few people to build. These people will document their build process (with pictures) in forums such as these and the kitter will refer people to them. Any good "mods" can then be worked back into the plans making for better and better planes.. This will also keep the cost down. [/QUOTE]

Sounds like the Capiche found right here in the 3D forum

_____________________________

My half dead website www.philsrcworld.fsnet.co.uk new site coming soon.
Redruth & District model flying club www.rcflye

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 62

Prediction for r/c future? - 6/23/2003 3:37:48 AM   
vtol_guy


 

Posts: 897
Joined: 1/13/2003
From: Driffield, UNITED KINGDOM
Status: offline
capiche...gotta love it!

if only i was an experienced pilot i would be building it right now! Another reason is that you need good quality, strong servos, maybe in a few years


_____________________________

I Am Sam.

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 63

Another prediction! - 6/23/2003 4:43:09 AM   
P-51B



Posts: 6173
Joined: 10/11/2002
From: An Iceburg in, ANTARCTICA
Status: offline
I predict that some time, waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy in the future, the plastic building spad guys will will quit feeling so threatened by the superior flying balsa planes, that they won't feel the need to try and sell SPADS to everyone in every thread on RCU!


_____________________________

In order to think "outside the box", one must first accept there IS a box.

(in reply to vtol_guy)
       Post #: 64