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why so overpowered? - 6/18/2003 12:48:26 AM   
Mike Bogh



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Status: offline 		I install as much power as necessary to fulfill the requirements of that particular plane.
If this means installing a larger than required engine on a biplane for instance instead of lead weight "ballast" so be it.

It also means that if it is a 3D capable plane, I want to be able to fly out vertically with authority.

Throttle management is paramount, to all styles of flying.
Scale, 3D, sport, et al.

Flying on the "wing" is much more beautiful than being dragged around by a prop, any-day.
When the need for speed is present, please fly an appropriate plane.
To me there are planes that should never, ever be flown "fast" Pretty much anything with a high wing (Sticks excepted) should never be flown fast, it's kind of an abomination to the design. Like a Yugo painted with a flame paint job, just doesn't belong there.
When was the last time the Reno air races had a Cub featured event?
Never.
All aspects of the RC hobby interest me. Don't want to do them all, yet].
Going to a Jet event only convinced me that I don't have a taste for them. Loved watching tho, had a ball going to the event, and won't miss it when it comes back every year.

IMAC? Boring, to me too. Loved the planes, got one. But the event bored the pant's off me, as a spectator.
Perhaps that would change as a participant.

Anyhow, I digress, sorry 'bout that.

I "overpower" many of my planes because what I demand of them acrobatically.
And the only time I have the throttle "pegged full" is when I'm vertical.


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why so overpowered? - 6/18/2003 1:45:03 AM   
48chebbie


 

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Status: offline 		to an extent,and within their element,the place for added power is needed. it's when people take a nice,easy flying plane,put a great big engine in the nose,add a bunch of weight to the tail to get it to balance,then,get it out each afternoon at the field,fly it once,maybe twice,park it,then spend the rest of the day ****ing about how hot it lands,how it sinks like a rock,and constantly has something broke or shook loose,and if it wasn't such a bear to fly and land,they would fly it alot more. does that make any sense? i often wonder if the person ever thought about that when they built the plane that way. probably not,all his buddys kept saying,"it's a .40 size,i would put so and so .91 4-stroke in it,might even get a 120 on it,yeah" but,to each his own.i too enjoy flying on the wing, .it takes a pilot to fly a PLANE,it doesn't take a pilot to fly a PROP!

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why so overpowered? - 6/18/2003 1:52:12 AM   
robert


 

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Status: offline 		Life goes on....worry about powering your own model, not someone elses......

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why so overpowered? - 6/18/2003 2:31:33 AM   
balsa4cat


 

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Status: offline 		Curtain Call for Tim Allen !

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why so overpowered? - 6/18/2003 5:03:07 AM   
JohnVH



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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by robert
LAMOURGHINI AAALLLLLL THE WAY!!!!! [/QUOTE]






I agree with Mikey, use the appropriate plane, a jet goes fast, a trainer goes slow, a 3d maching should hover at less than half throttle and its always more fun to fly than watch!

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Put some mustard on that hot dog.... - 6/21/2003 12:37:05 PM   
Flyboy Dave



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Status: offline 		....you know....one thing I noticed right off about power
planes....is the word "power".... :

I guess flying a .40 size plane, with a .40 in it might be
all one needs....to "attain flight"....and yes, a 72" Cub
would actually fly with a .35 in it....and "scale like".
(that means it takes 100 yards to take off, and won't loop)

I'll be the first one to admit....that a .91 4-stroke is the
perfect motor for the .46 Mustangs. Could you imagine
dragging one (barely) around the field with a sport .40.

Or how about sticking a LA .40 in an Arresti .40....
I don't go extreme....but I will go up a size or two on the
motor selection.

Dave.

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why so overpowered? - 6/21/2003 2:23:45 PM   
Flyfalcons



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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike Bogh
IMAC? Boring, to me too. Loved the planes, got one. But the event bored the pant's off me, as a spectator.
Perhaps that would change as a participant.
[/QUOTE]

Trust me, it does. Aside from checking out some cool planes and meeting great people, going to an IMAC event as a spectator would bore me to tears. However, when you're actually competing it becomes a real blast!

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why so overpowered? - 6/21/2003 7:53:02 PM   
BalsaOvercast



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Status: offline 		So.....

You guys are saying that the 300 HP Lycoming I have in my garage SHOULDN'T go in my GWS Mustang Park Flyer?

A little clarification would help. Thanks in advance...

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why so overpowered? - 6/21/2003 8:02:09 PM   
Paul Hazelwood


 

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Amazing the number of people that have to look at others and find all the faults they can just cause they are not interested in doing what someone else does.



WHO CARES.

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why so overpowered? - 6/21/2003 8:11:29 PM   
JohnVH



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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by BalsaOvercast
So.....

You guys are saying that the 300 HP Lycoming I have in my garage SHOULDN'T go in my GWS Mustang Park Flyer?

A little clarification would help. Thanks in advance... [/QUOTE]


Nope, but you could send it my way (the engine) and Ill put it to great use!!

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why so overpowered? - 6/21/2003 9:02:18 PM   
48chebbie


 

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Status: offline 		case in point,the only reason i started this thread,and the most perfect example i can give: one of my close friends has the CG ultimate arf,been flying it for about 2 weeks-15 or so flights,with a YS 140 on it. well,the plane is literally coming apart. this friend also owns the LHS. he calls the manufacturer,to ask some questions about whether the arf is put together as well as the kit is built. the DESIGNER of this model even told him that the 140 is an absolutely ridiculous amout of engine for the plane,and it coming apart is his own fault! and said they would in no way warranty the plane at all,AND,if he was real smart,he would take that big motor off it! what is sad,now he has a beautiful ultimate,with alot of loose wood,firewall,wing struts,cracks in the rear of the fuse,when had he put a nice .61,or 91 4-stroke on it,he would still have a nice plane,with nothing wrong with it,and PLENTY OF POWER. just doesn't make sense to me.

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why so overpowered? - 6/21/2003 9:03:22 PM   
JohnVH



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Status: offline 		Well, there is nothing wrong with putting the biggest engine that will fit in it, the trick to making the plane last is common sense and throttle management!!!!

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Real Skates - 6/21/2003 9:23:14 PM   
Scar



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From: Peoria Hts, IL, USA
Status: offline 		Like I've been telling people, real skates have wheels on all four corners. No exceptions. Right? None of these newfangled roller blades, none of them flashy illuminated wheels...

I just read most of this thread, and there's fifteen minutes I'll never get back. What a waste of bandwidth.

Fly what you brung. If you don't like mine, watch somebody else. Now I'll go read an arf vs kit thread, or vmar vs Carden...

Sheesh!
Good luck
Dave Olson

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why so overpowered? - 6/21/2003 9:40:54 PM   
BasinBum



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Status: offline 		Scar, I agree and I am unsubscribing to this thread.

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why so overpowered? - 6/22/2003 8:39:55 PM   
r1morris


 

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Status: offline 		I've under-powered em, overpowered em and had just the right size. After years of flying I have come to the conclusion that the recycling ratio on airframes is in direct proportion to power applied. Hey bseside that I love to watch a good show. A 40 size plane with a 120 in it makes a great rocket. Don;t cha just love the sound of heavy thumps and re-kitted airplanes in the mornin.

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why so overpowered? - 6/23/2003 8:26:22 AM