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My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/4/2009 2:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've always wanted a MkII Carrier in 1/6th scale and since a pre-built one is so expensive I decided I would build one from scratch. I scaled up the tree layout on the 1/35 Tamyia MkII Carrier plans and then recalculated for 1/6th. I made bristalboard templates as I went along so I can build another one day. Here are some pics of the basic bare hull with a couple of the 1st Hussars checking it out. Not sure yet if I will make it rc ot static. Comments welcomed







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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/4/2009 3:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		RC go all the way ,goodluck looks good so far,rye

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/4/2009 3:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		More fun just to go a bit larger and drive it. Surpus T-16s (US Ford version of the Bren) are relatively inexpensive and easy to maintain. Mine required a total restoration so I reconfigured it as a tank killer.

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/5/2009 1:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm tring to come up with track for the carrier. Anyone have the width dimesions of the HL Bulldog track? The pzr3 track is close tread wise but I think might be way too narrow, the HL Tiger1 track is wide enough but the tread pattern is wrong. I guess it would come down to how fussy I'm going to be with the choice of track for it. My regiment the Hastings & Prince Edward Regiment has a restored carrier called KATY might just do this one up as her since most of my Cdn figures are Hasty-P's

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/5/2009 2:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lookin' REAL good, Harold! No surprize, considering those other models you've built!

Just out of curiosity what are you going to use for WHEELS? I'm trying to do something similar, but in 1/16 scale.......

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/5/2009 2:34 AM   
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The Pz III track is probably as close as you will get. M-41 is totally wrong style, 21 inch Massey Harris Y chevron. The Bren and T-16s all ran on 10" flat grouser (street track) which were simply flat horizontal bars with a slight edge on the front. The Pz III had 36-40cm wide track, depending on which ausf., so 14-15 inch, so a bit wide, but do-able.

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/5/2009 4:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		If the carrier tracks ar 10 inches wide that works out to be 1.66" in 1/6th. I measured both my HL tanks and get tiger1 1.75" and the pzr3 is 1" so the carrier is in between either of those. The HL pzr3 tracks look way too narrow to pass for 1/6th

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/5/2009 12:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I checked with the chaps on the MLU forum in the Carrier section and one of the guys measured his real carrier and gave me the figure of 9.5" for the width of the track on his carrier. In 1/6th scale that would work out to app 1.6". My next choice would have to be the HL tiger1 track which measures 1.75 which would be wider. But if I clip off the little tab on the one side it would come out at 1.625" so .025" over would probably be close enough.
Here is a scan of the HL 1/16th scale tiger1 track un-altered

Here is a pic of the proposed trimming of the track. The first 3 white lines is one option the second 3 lines is another option.

What do you think? It's about as close as I'm going to get

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/5/2009 3:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		A chap named Johkaz on another forum posted these links. His quote.....

This does look very close to the carrier track pictures here.

http://johkaz.byethost16.com/Carrier/bren_gun1.jpg

http://johkaz.byethost16.com/Carrier/bren_gun9.jpg

http://johkaz.byethost16.com/Carrier/bren_gun36.jpg

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/5/2009 4:34 PM   
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Status: online 		How about the Panther tracks? They're thinner then the Tiger.

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/6/2009 3:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well I already have one set of tiger1 tracks all I need is another set to give me the length I need for the carrier. I'm trying to locate some 1/6th RC Stuart road wheels, they are very close to the carrier wheels, except they are 5 spoke where the carrier had 6 spoke and easy to separate so 1 road wheel will render 2 carrier wheels.

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/7/2009 1:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Update:
Well the work continues. Here a few of the Hasty-P's check out the progress on their new carrier. I have added the upper sides of the gunner's shield, added the rear fenders, added the rear lower backplate. I've also constructed the engine and rad cover, but still has further work to go on that. The men of the Hasty-P's are pleased with the work on their new carrier and will be letting RSM Duffy(GOD) know. Here are the pics:






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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/7/2009 1:36 AM   
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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/7/2009 3:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice job Harold... keep the pics coming!

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/8/2009 2:52 PM   
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After looking for spare rc Stuart roadwheels and finding none I figured the next best thing was to make my own. So I took the un-used spare road wheel that I didn't use on my Stuart and modified it for use on my carrier. I know the carriers use a 6 spoked wheel but for now 5 spoked wheels will do. I made a silicone mold of the modified road whell and and did a test pour of the road wheel useing polyester resin. I'm pleased with the results. Here is a pic of the mold, the original wheel, and a 1st pour from the mold. I inserted sections of straightened out paper clips in each of the spokes before the resin cured.


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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/8/2009 8:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		The build is looking good! Can't wait to see this rolling.

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/10/2009 12:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I decided to make a master for the 6 spoked road wheels and here it is. It goes under rubber tonight

Wouldn't you know.....
Never fails.... after makeing and molding the new 6 spoke road wheel, I get informed from the guys with the real carriers that carriers came with both 5 and 6 spoke road wheels, some even with both 5 and 6 spoked wheels on the same carrier.... go figure!!!!

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/10/2009 12:55 PM   
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Here's a pic of the new mold of the 6 spoked roadwheel and the first pour. Next will to decide whether to use the already poured 5 spoked ones or the new 6 spoked ones.... decisions decisions


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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/10/2009 4:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Harold - great job on the wheels! How did you create the six spoke version without one to use as a mold?

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/10/2009 4:49 PM   
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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/10/2009 5:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well to make the six spoked one I used an outter wheel section and made a circle from plastic then divided it in 6 sections then drew in the spokes and added the hub then glued the new hub assembly into the rim

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/11/2009 2:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Update:
I had an old New Bright Abrams Tank here that I had gutted and thought I could possibly make the drive system work in the carrier. The carrier is very light so the gearbox should have no problems driving the carrier. I dissassembled the gearbox and divided it down the center into 2 separate gearboxes, and I reworked the sprokets into something I can attach the carrier sprokets to. Here are pics of the gearboxes.




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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/13/2009 2:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Decision:
Well after numerous attempts to make a 3" sprocket to match the track I have, I have come to the point where I have to decide which way to go...
1. Use the sprocket that matches the track but is a bit small in diameter(2 1/4") if I want it RC
2. Make a track and a sprocket non-functional non-RC
If I use the tiger1 sprocket which 3/4" smaller in diameter it may not look right because of the diameter, but I can have the carrier RC.
Your suggestions would be appreciated.... Thanks Harold

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/13/2009 3:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Definitely RC. Do you have AutoCAD. There is an easy way to make a paper copy of the sprocket design.

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RE: My Scratchbuilt MkII Carrier a WIP - 5/13/2009 5:53 PM   
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