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Novus CP issues... - 5/26/2009 12:54 AM   
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well im having trouble with my tail rotor and motor....

for some reason the gears dont seem to mess right and when i try to take off it starts to spin in a crazy pirouette....


could the settings on my controller be messed up? is there a way to reset them to factory? 

I dont think that is it, but it seems that either the motor and tail gears dont mesh up or something is wrong with the controls....

any ideas guys?

Also, the guy at the LHS said the rear rotor shaft and gears coems lose ,so he put a little ca on it to hold em there, and suggested i would do that it should help the issue, but it did not ....


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RE: Novus CP issues... - 5/28/2009 11:00 PM   
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 Did you ever resolve this issue with the cp?  Im also having problems with the tail as well as the heli vibrating wildly while trying to spool up.

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RE: Novus CP issues... - 5/29/2009 8:34 PM   
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There should be a MIX pot on the RX, turning it to the + side increases the tail motor RPM's. The Novus CP is an almost exact copy of the Walkera 4g3. See the pic 4g3 RX below.

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RE: Novus CP issues... - 6/4/2009 11:47 PM   
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Walkera basically changed the name of the old 4g3 and sold it to Helimax as the Novus CP.  Despite the higher price tag, the Novus CP is using parts/technology from Jan-Feb 2009 and most of the upgrades (metal parts and the brushless motors) are all left out as separate options.  I suspect that the only testing on the Novus CP is at the Walkera Factory in China.  Most Walkera Dealers in the US have to retest the 4G3 and make adjustments when Walkera shipments arrive (I don't think Helimax / Hobby Co is going to do the extra testing for you).   If you are having tail and vibration problems you can try adjusting the Rx mention in previous posts, check the gear mesh  and make sure the main rotor shaft and it's surrounding parts are not damaged.  You can do this by holding the heli in your hand and crank up the throttle.  Look at the main rotor from the top to see if the circle between the blades is round or oval or blurred.  If it's oval or blurred than you have issolated your problem at the main rotor.
3D aerobatics, powerful accelleration, steep banking turns, tight circles are some of reasons for getting a CP heli in the first place.   For serious CP and 4g3 pilot s (that we aspire to be, lol), the Novus CP is at best a marginal aerobat.  You need the extra torque on a lighter heli which can only be achieved through simutaneous BL upgrades for both the main and the tail motors.  Because there are so many critical and expensive upgrades missing on the Novus CP, it's more cost effective to start with a new upgraded 4g3 and use the Novus CP for spare parts since the parts are interchangable.  Any ways, that is just IMO.   Here are some reliable domestic sources that I've used over the years for Walkera and Novus related helis and parts.  rotorfever.com, wowhobbies.com, heliclub.com, toysonics.com, helidirect.com.  I make most bigger purchases online (usually about 30% lower than LHS) and smaller purchases at my LHS (a quick fix for my addiction, lol ). 



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RE: Novus CP issues... - 6/9/2009 8:55 AM   
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Oh man, it wasn't easy to find a good Heli-max Novus CP or Walkera 4G3 forum.  I think some of the forums are bought off by Helimax promoters.  For instance Runryder.com looks like it's highly influenced/operated/bought-off by it's advertisers and sponsors.  There is just this odd ball number of people with Helimax helis all religiously praising the Axe and the Novus CX and the Novus CP while all the other forums are trashing them.  What's that all about?  I think more than half of the postings are from Helimax promoters/employees.  lol...  By the way, I returned my Helimax Novus CP after reading a boat load of bad independent reviews about it and got a Walkera 4G3 instead . 

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RE: Novus CP issues... - 6/12/2009 8:12 PM   
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can those adj. pots be over spun or do they just rotate back to high end if you go past the low point or does it just go back around to the high point because I had no tail rotor out the box and went to adj. and got it right but never felt a stop point on the pot (bottomed out low/bottomed out high) does anyone know if the pots are just free spinning or is something wrong?


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RE: Novus CP issues... - 7/9/2009 5:18 AM   
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Hello, i bought Novus CP, but i dont know what happened but the main motor doesn't spin. Just the rear motor. Before it happens, was spinning not so hard, and i touched in the motor and it was veeeery hot.
HELP MEE!
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RE: Novus CP issues... - 7/12/2009 12:35 AM   
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CAMPSO most of the other forums are spam engines IMO
rcu is not like most because of the mods and the real people
that are here because they love rc as a hobby not as a money maker

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RE: Novus CP issues... - 7/14/2009 7:18 AM   
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I have a cx,cp,fp and a e-flight mcx.
   The mcx is a good machine!  The above novus line of hellies are junk!
my hobbie shop, which i have spent tons of money!! has bs me about the parts that i need to get these machines flying.
  i have had the cx for 5 daysw and one of the motors has fryed! The cp is very hard to control. and i keep beeting up main blades. The fp has been a pain, the tail boom loosened up so i installed a longer screew, which shorted out the tail motor wiring harness. 
  This is turning into a hobbie that is no fun any more.


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RE: Novus CP issues... - 7/14/2009 7:32 PM   
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I have the Novus CP and have been having a ball with it, maybe I got lucky. Before you mess with the pot adjustments check the gear mess on the tail. the only thing holding the tail rotor shaft on the back side is a rubber retainer. On mine every once and a while I have to push the retainer to the right , in affect tightening the gear mess.
As far as some of the other sites go some simply dont deal with this small stuff as a heli, its a toy and as far as toys go its not bad. You really have to take the thing for what it is. I mean if you want a real small heli look at a trex 250 or something like that ( clones or guai 200) IMHO

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RE: Novus CP issues... - 7/14/2009 7:42 PM   
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vonjay,
The CP is a real hairball to fly its a real handful. Even a guy with over ten years of heli experiance couldnt fly mine inside without hitting something. Outside with a bit more room it tends to be a bit better. I wouldnt expect that the FP is any easier.

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RE: Novus CP issues... - 7/15/2009 2:30 PM   
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Heli's THIS SMALL tend to fly like a "hummingbird on EXPRESSO!"

I've have several sized heli's from 200 to 500 sized, and this little booger is the toughest to handle! Headspeed is your BEST friend with these nano-sized helis! Also adding slighly heavier blades helps the stability as well without adding flybar weights to slow the cyclic. I made main blades from cut down Gaui EP200 plastic blades, the heavier blade helps out with a more-stable hover, without dulling the cyclic down to a boring non-reactive setting.

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RE: Novus CP issues... - 7/15/2009 6:58 PM   
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how far did you cut them down? Didi you just use the stock blade lenght?

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RE: Novus CP issues... - 7/15/2009 8:50 PM   
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Pretty much, I took a 200mm blade (both wood & plastic) and trimmed them down to the 140mm required for the 4g3. Balanced them both for blade CG & overall weight. Anything longer than 145mm and you'll have blade strikes with the tail.
The woodies I tried first, they work OK, there light-weight makes them handle like the stock foamies, slow reacting cyclic. The plastic blades with there slightly heavier mass, makes hovering a bit easier, & cyclic performance is a close second to the CF set I have.

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