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USS Iowa BB-61 - 6/10/2009 1:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've been thinking of getting into this hobby for a few months now, but haven't had the time or the money to spend on it. Now that summers almost here and i will be getting a little bit of income, ive decided to build the USS Iowa BB-61 (just b/c it is so BA)

does anyone know where i could buy a set of plans for this cheap (if not online then at a store somewhere between ashland and richmond va)

another question, does anyone know of a club in central va, preferably in the ashland or short pump area?

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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 6/10/2009 6:38 AM   
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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 6/10/2009 10:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mad Jack, I would recommend you take a look on www.rcnavalcombat.com

The RC Naval Combat website has a helpful forum, a club finder so you can contact your local club, and extensive links to information websites, vendors, tips and tricks, and other useful information.  You can probably find a fiberglass hull which will make your first ship quicker and easier to build.


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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 6/10/2009 1:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		You can get the actual ship blueprints here: www.ussmissouri.com/documents/blueprints.pdf for free, but you will need to adjust scale and such. 

I am sure George, the Plans Master, Goff has them as well.  If you want a fiberglass hull, Swampworks has been sold to Strike Models - www.strikemodels.com/products and should have them in production soon (bought just last month - still getting their web presence up, but you might want to contact them about a hull and plans set).

For local clubs, the Mid Atlantic Battle Group and the Chesapeake Battle Group (DC area) are both not far from you, and both have some really great guys.  Both are Big Gun format.  If you want Small/Fast Gun, I believe there may be some in your vicinity as well.  There is a local club finder on RCNavalCombat, and I seem to recall club listings on the MWC and IRCWCC (the two major branches of Small/Fast Gun).

A couple of suggestions - the North Texas Battle Group - www.ntxbg.org has a "how to" section you might find useful, and there is an article from Servo Magazine in the "in the news" section that might also be helpful in getting your feet on the ground.

Keep in mind that many clubs have club ships that they will let you battle a while when you are getting started, but, above all, find a club for the advice and so you can look things over.  Yes, the Iowa is a wonderful ship.  But for a newbie, a Dunkerque or Richelieu is often better in Big Gun. More available firepower and easier to set up, with two quads in the bow.  They are frequently awarded "most Feared" at NABGO.   Mushshi/Yamato are even bigger than an Iowa, you know, though not particularly better armed.

But, what is a good ship for you is dependant on your style, skill, and the format you choose to battle in.  Iowas are deadly in all the formats, of course.

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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 6/11/2009 12:30 AM   
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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 6/11/2009 3:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		In looking at your handle, are you and Irish-o-phile?  Have you considered the nice little HMS Erin as a ship? I know of one builg built right now.  She si on the smallish and slow side, but should be VERY maneuverable.  Not a simple build mut not too hard.  I will eventually build one methinks.

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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 6/11/2009 3:51 AM   
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thats a thought there.

............ ......idk, i might do that.............*thinks*.................dunno.......could do an Erin and an Iowa....*thinks some more*.........

i'll probably build an Iowa first, Erin would be a project a little later

thanks again Wreno

Mad Jack



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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 8/26/2009 6:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wreno, I'm surprised you mentioned the Erin. She was an interesting ship with a "checkered" history.
She was built as the Reshadieh in England for the Turkish Navy and siezed in 1914 by the Royal Navy before she could be handed over to her Turkish crew. Now for the good stuff, here are her specs:
Length 559 feet 6 inches
Beam 91 feet 7 inches
Draught 28feet 5 inches
Displacement 22,780 tons
Armament 10X13.5" in 5 twin turrets, 16X6" in single casement mounts, 4 21" torpedo tubes
Speed 21 Knots
Turrets were aranged with 2 forward, one midships aft of the stacks 2 aft
She served with the British Grand Fleet through WWI, was "mothballed" in 1919 and scrapped in 1922

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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 8/27/2009 4:22 AM   
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Wreno, I'm surprised you mentioned the Erin. She was an interesting ship with a ''checkered'' history.
She was built as the Reshadieh in England for the Turkish Navy and siezed in 1914 by the Royal Navy before she could be handed over to her Turkish crew. Now for the good stuff, here are her specs:
Length 559 feet 6 inches
Beam 91 feet 7 inches
Draught 28feet 5 inches
Displacement 22,780 tons
Armament 10X13.5'' in 5 twin turrets, 16X6'' in single casement mounts, 4 21'' torpedo tubes
Speed 21 Knots
Turrets were aranged with 2 forward, one midships aft of the stacks 2 aft
She served with the British Grand Fleet through WWI, was ''mothballed'' in 1919 and scrapped in 1922


Why surprised? Pretty and unique ship (a one-off) with kind of interesting history. You left out the effect of the seizure of the Erin and the Agincourt on Turkey during the war.

The stats are pretty much the same as what I have. I have some slightly different specs, but close'nuff.
LENGTH BP 525’-0”
BREADTH 91’-3”
DRAFT 28’-6”
DISPLACEMENT 22934 TONS
ARMAMENT: 10 x 13.5in 45cal MK VI (5 x 2)
16 x 6in (16 x 1), 6 x 6 pounder (6 x 1)
2 x 3in (2 x 1) ,4 x 21 in TT
SPEED: 21kts
Per my lines plans.

Nice little ship. Very similar in size and layout to the USS Texas (another ship I like) and the USS New York.

Reports are that the crew really liked her, but, sadly, she was "different" form the other British ships, and being non-standard, was not so appreciated by the Admiralty, methinks.

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Wreno

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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 8/27/2009 5:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		True, their seizure caused Turkey to side with Germany, not to mention the purchase of the battleship Goeben and light cruiser Breslau by Turkey from Germany for use in the Black Sea. Some how, the Goeben survived until 1976.
If I were to build anything, it would be either a Nelson or Renown class if I went with a British ship, or the USS Washington. To me, an Iowa is too long while the South Dakota is too short. Either those or the USS Alaska

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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 9/18/2009 2:11 AM   
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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 10/28/2009 9:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Theres a guy who's building the Battleship MO,there the same class ships if I remember wright? He has pic and plans plus drawing/templates with instructions too of the parts to cut out..heres the thread on it..http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6480413/tm.htm

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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 10/28/2009 10:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I may be wrong, but those look like a smaller kit than the normal 1:144 used in combat. By the way, Strike Models has a nice fiberglass Iowa combat hull in 1:144, as well as many others. http://www.strikemodels.com/products/ships/

Plans for the Iowa class are available for download on the USS Missouri museum site, but you will need to spend a lot of time and effort adjusting them to fit he needs of Model Warship Combat.

Cheers,

Wreno

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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 10/29/2009 2:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		It shouldnt matter..I can aways blowup the drawing/template bigger.. Its no different in the scale hydro guys using newtons plans and coping them smaller or larger to meet there needs.

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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 10/29/2009 4:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ahem. It is not just a matter of scale. It is also a mater of frame spacing (which can vary from club to club) thickness of ribs (which generally depends on frame spacing chosen) and other considerations. You also have to allow for the thickness of the hull skin, etc. So it is not quite as simple as just scaling up or down the original ship's plans. You can certainly develop workable combat model plans from the originals (I have done so), but it is often easier to fork over the $15 or so to have a full sized, properly scaled, optimized plan set or pattern set. Before you begin scaling the originals, you might want to review the rules of the club(s) and format(s) you wish to battle in to make sure your plans revisions conform.

Cheers,

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RE: USS Iowa BB-61 - 11/2/2009 8:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not to go off topic but even in rescaling hydroplanes, there are changes that have to be made. Since Misshydro has never built a model boat from plans, there are many of the nuances she doesn't know. I like the way you pointed out what it takes to rescale plans for a combat ship. It will help new builders to know what awaits them if they try to go on their own from plans from other than modeling sources. As you said, it can be done if you take the time to do the research and modifications required.

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