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Copter X 450 Black Angel - 6/10/2009 11:50 PM   
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The Copter X Black Angel is
the latest 450 heli from the KY group.
This is one of the best designed 450 helis
it comes with all carbon fiber parts, ( frame, paddles,blades, tail blades  .
the whole kit is kinda what you would want to upgrade on the 450 SEV2.
but with a more robust framework and a new design head. with all the aluminum works on it











the build was simple and strait forward. no different from a 450 V2 heli. the only difference is the tight space on the framework
as this heli has a single plate design similar to the TreX 450 PRO.

This are the electronics I used with this heli

Motor : Align 430XL
ESC : CC phoenix 35A
BEC : Hobby Wing
Servos : Fusonic Digital servos
Gyro ; Futaba GY401  / 9650 sevro

Maiden flight was good. the heli responded nicely on stick commands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gi-ENt-qf4




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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 6/10/2009 11:53 PM   
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Replaced the Gyro with a DS760 and Fut 9257... It did make a great leap on rudder authority... 

a really nicely made machine...

www.youtube.com/watch

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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 6/11/2009 12:43 AM   
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For the new guy here to electrics, whats a BEC?


Thanks!


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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 6/11/2009 2:40 AM   
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I second that request from TCipolla!!  I have read in the past a comparison between the two (which I forget) but I didn't realise you have both - I thought it was one or the other....

Please elaborate..

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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 6/11/2009 6:04 AM   
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BEC is a Battery Eliminator Circuit. Some speed controllers have built in BEC's that run the servos, receiver, gyro, etc... For many cheap speed controllers though the built in one is not good enough for helicopter usage and many people will install an external BEC.  I could write a lot about it but this link will describe it better than I can

http://www.dimensionengineering.com/BECFAQ.htm




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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 6/22/2009 9:48 PM   
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I have a Copter X 450 Black Angel  with a spartan ds 760 with Hitec HS5065 MG Digital and find the hold rock steady, it doesn't mater what I do the tail wont move, 10 out of 10

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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 6/26/2009 12:03 PM   
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Yes Bikemad the DS760 really works well with this heli.. it holds rock solid... work nicely with the BA...

hows the performance of the BA?

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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 6/27/2009 5:27 PM   
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Today we had a chance to maiden the new Production class Black Angel heli.

newly build with some of the common parts out in the market.

Parts

Copter X Black Angel Kit
Motor: stock CPX 3500KV motor (outrunner)
ESC : 50A CPX stock ESC
Gyro: PG800 ( G-lock ) / Inno lab digital tail servo
Servos: Align DS410
Lipo: Zippy Rhino 30C 3S lipo packs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wszoGfphWoo

After doing some adjustments on tracking and testing all the electronics...

another test runs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxfcYq9rsb8

This heli runs nicely... and its the first time I have ever seen a 450 glide down on autorotation.. as if it was a 500 class heli..



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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 6/27/2009 5:44 PM   
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We also had a chance to get this heli side by side with the New ALign TREX 450 PRO. Total length canopy to canpoy the Black angel is slightly longer than the TREX PRO.. height wise its almost the same.. But head to tail tip, The Align PRO is longer than than the Black Angel.









But how does it compare in flight with the PRO...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwK7G3CPF_k

well one thing with the ALIGN TREX Pro. The new 430SB motor is far stronger than its previous 430XL brother. This motor has far better torque so less bogging.. but cyclic speed wise I dont think the Black Angel is far behind. Both heli have there own signature feel that is somewhat what makes them unique. The BA is so far one of Copter X's masterpiece 450's

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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 8/6/2009 1:41 AM   
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Black Angel at Polo Field...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wohUHD5pdU

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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 8/8/2009 2:07 AM   
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thought it was me for a mo, lol , I wish

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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 8/10/2009 1:24 AM   
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I've been reading a lot of good things about the BA. If I didn't already have a CopterX 450 I would definitely invest in one, but I want to save my money for a 600 sized heli.

RC Heli did a review on the BA. It was kind of strange because they go along and wrote a pretty decent review on it then at the end the say they wouldn't recommend it because it is made by an unknown manufacturer. I think CopterX has been around for long enough now to be a known and established manufacturer, but that's just my opinion.

Attached is the review just in case anyone is interested.

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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 8/30/2009 10:34 AM   
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thanks zeta30 on that article...

Copter X has been out in the market for quite sometime.. but I guess its been known to make clone SE helis. Although their quality is kinda acceptable and the pricing is also good.. The new BA is a totally new breed of heli. I found the BA to be a good 450 heli design. The heli is really strong. I have crashed this heli a couple of times but the framework seemed to hold well. The usual parts does get broken like shaft, blades, but I have never broken any of the CF parts other than the tail fin.... The single framework makes the heli really strong. and the material used on this model is quite good. Light yet strong.

This was a flight taken yesterday with the BA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJwek5uTPPQ

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RE: Copter X 450 Black Angel - 8/30/2009 3:20 PM   
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Newly painted canopy for my BLACK ANGEL



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