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Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/11/2009 8:55 PM  1 votes
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1. 29CC engine
2. 15KG metal throttle servo
3. 33KG metal gear steering servo
4. Terminator wheel
5. Terminator body shell twice thicker then the standard version
6. alloy gear differential cover
7. sway bar set
8. alloy rear shock mount plate
9. upgrade 6mm shock absorber
10. upgrade exhaust pipe with Billet muffler
11. 2.4GHz transmitter
12. 6V3000μA battery
13. general tools bag, multi tool, mixed fuel ratio can, repair bag, a set of oil bags, lama tool, a bag of plastic parts


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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/11/2009 10:13 PM   
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And why are these coming from an Engaged RCs photobucket....

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/11/2009 11:03 PM   
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The 5t clone is here I heard rumors of a street price of 680.00


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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/11/2009 11:14 PM   
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well i thought to post these pictures for reference and what everyone is thinking about them...

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 12:53 AM   
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there is also pics on a different as well..


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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 3:02 AM   
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Wow, for 680 I'd definetly get one. That one there almost makes me kind of wonder if HPI has someone make their T and they just brand it as theirs, because even the box looks like the HPI

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 3:04 AM   
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I'll take mines with the clear body and no radio. Thank you.

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 3:11 AM   
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The radio is 2.4ghz though.

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 1:11 PM   
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here is some more pics I found




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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 1:43 PM   
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The radio is 2.4ghz though.


yeah, I know but I have a 3PK with a 2.4Ghz, so I wont be needing it. As a matter of fact, from looking at the close up pics, they can keep the motor and that X-can as well. So basically, I just need a roller. Think I can get a roller for about 300?

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 2:01 PM   
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you can't buy a Terminator chassis voor 300

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 3:25 PM   
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A roller would be great!


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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 4:00 PM   
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I deleted all posts insinuating that this member is shilling for, or is EngageRC. I also removed the initial pictures that bear engagerc's web address.

For the record Kostenko, I do not believe you are the member that posts for EngageRC. The reason I do not believe this is because a trace on your IP address reveals your router location to be the Netherlands. While that can be faked, it's not actually as easy as people think, and I doubt EngageRC himself would bother with that kind of stuff just to post a few images.

Anyway, bottom line is that those images are advertising a company that has already had way too much free advertising in our forums, and I'm afraid I cannot leave them up with that huge web address there in the middle.

On a final note, be careful when ordering stuff from Engage, I know for a fact he is telling people that he has stuff in stock which has not even been manufactured yet.

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 4:00 PM   
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I hope the E-bay people buy them and chop them up for parts. I know i would like a nice new clear body for less than $180


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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 4:10 PM   
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Hi Foxy,

I just renewed and placed my own picture and u are exactly right that i don't have anything to do with engage rc.
As far as i know he even hasn't got these cars in stock.
Sorry for my mistake...

So if you have any questions just pm me and that saves you the affort of tracing while all info in my registration is legit.

And the pictures shown from another forum member are not from the Baja Terminator.

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 8:11 PM   
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hallo
good to see another person from amsterdam, where do you go and drive?
was trying to PM you but its not working for some reason..
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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/12/2009 10:29 PM   
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Hi Foxy,

I just renewed and placed my own picture and u are exactly right that i don't have anything to do with engage rc.
As far as i know he even hasn't got these cars in stock.
Sorry for my mistake...

So if you have any questions just pm me and that saves you the affort of tracing while all info in my registration is legit.

And the pictures shown from another forum member are not from the Baja Terminator.


the pictures I posted were placed on a forum were of the BAJA TERMINATOR,they were sent to a person and he posted them on a forum...

here is another pic





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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/13/2009 12:45 AM   
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Maybe it's just the conspiracy theorist in me, but I now think that HPI is in the tank with these guys. The 5B was one thing, ok, maybe HPI's contract manufacturer in Taiwan or China slipped all of the design files or the molds through the back door to another shop and they were made illegally. Now that I see that there are all of these new clone parts to make the 5T clone, HPI either has the worst vendor qualification process ever or they are aware of the clones and use the clones to sell into China which they couldn't otherwise do.

Maybe HPI doesn't have worldwide distribution so they only way they can have worldwide distribution outside of their channels is to have this 'clone' to sell into markets where they don't have distribution, like for instance China. I saw that HPI very recently setup a site, HPI China which is interesting. Companies can't just sell into China without China government approval. So, HPI realizes that China is a huge market and as they are trying to setup a deal with the Chicoms to sell into the China legit, they are selling these clones through a local company in China with a local name. Even though some of the cars get imported into the U.S., the missed sales doesn't matter to HPI when compared to the volume sales and opportunity in China.

It makes perfect sense to me now.

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/13/2009 3:13 AM   
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so u think theres conspiracy behind this?but then arent they damaging their sales here in the U.S.?

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/13/2009 3:17 AM   
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What does 15% less US sales mean when you have another market available with 1,000,000,000 people? If I am HPI, I want a piece of the Chinese market, even if it has a small impact on the US market.

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/13/2009 3:23 AM   
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true just get a quarter of chinas population they got the U.S> sales covered hehe.. man they even cloned the futaba 3pm,they should have cloned the 4pk too.

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/13/2009 6:59 AM   
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Well there's also a difference between clones and clones...for instance Baja clones from Shenqui, Kingmotor and Rovan.
The quality between these 3 is stunning also.
I think its a compliment to the original product that they make these clones, but it would be better that the designed their own shell and a slightly other chassis.
Then i think its a good thing for alot of people who can't affort the original product and can buy a other nice product for less money.

So for the market its better that there some other factory's otherwise the domination of the original factory becomes to big and they can do anything in this market..high prices and arrogance..

For example...$ony with the ps3 console and laser defects....people get charged high prices for repair...but there are a few company's that sell the lasers cheap so customers save alot of money.

Anyway lets stay on topic..
If the quality of the product is right, the price is right, we all accept clones from several products.

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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/14/2009 6:01 PM   
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I did read somewhere that HPI is having stuff manufactured in china, I'm sure someone posted that their 5b box said hong kong and i know i posted a comment refering to hpi now made in china as many 5b owners were kinda proud that they didn't have chinese rubbish when knocking clones. dale could be onto something here and I'm sure the loss in sales will be compensated for the bigger mark up now on hpi branded stuff as i'm sure it cost them way less per unit than before; it'll also give them more in aftermarket sales as most people upgrade to hpi parts anyhow when they buy a clone


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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/14/2009 7:24 PM   
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HA!!!  Makes me wonder if it really IS a clone or not.  I'm sure someone knows, they just will not say.  Although, it might help to know what factory the "HPI" branded Baja's come from, or where they come from.


LOL at the 3000 MICRO amp battery pack.  That should say mAh instead!



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RE: Rovan Baja Terminator - 6/14/2009 9:49 PM  1 votes
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Very intersting thought dale brings up about the corporate decision to get into the Chinese market. I do have to wonder though just how many of the 1.2bil chinese customers are actually capable of consuming luxury/entertainmnent (including hobby RC) products. Though the figures of just how many chinese are capapble of such consumption is repressed and not openly released to the rest of the world, I cannot help but think that only a very few are rich enough or earn enough to consume at this mopment. Right now, with the chicom businessmen, they are the ultra rich wile the masses are still trying to claw their way up to what would be considered middle class. This would mean that those that are trying to get to that middle class status are much more concerned with trying to pay for food, clothing, and rent.

Yes, prices for everything is very cheap in china, but you have to look at that in perspective. So, in USD terms, lets say a sandwich in America costs $2 USD and in China that very same sandwich costs maybe 50cents in USD. You also have to consider the wage of the average Cinese worker. He might make only $2USD per hour, even in one of chinas vast factory complexes, but the American worker in the same job here would be paid $15USD. So there woudl be a much larger gap for teh American cosumer to spend of entertainment and RCs where the chinese worker would budget more for everyday essentials and less on even buying any RC.

Also, in this same persepective, to us americans, $650 USD is very cheap. But to the Chinese average worker, trying to buy that very same Chinese clone would be like one of us saving up to buy a $4000 USD RC.

These number I am giving are not accurate, they are gusses on my part, but I am confident in saying that the money gap between the Chicom businees man vs the average Chines worker is very huge. To be able to profit from the Chinese market to consume these RCs, even if they are HPI's conspiricy to sell a way watered down version (clone) to them would require the average chinese worker to be paid more so he can spend on non essentials such as RCs.


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