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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/4/2010 4:53 AM

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The spring is required , operating without it is not advised

I can't see where the spring accomplishes anything other than making the cap harder to install. These springs are supplied with DLE engines that use the Rcexl ignition where other similar engines using the same ignition and plug caps do not use the spring.

If the shield (outside) of the plug cap fits the plug securely and I have never seen one that didn't, how can that spring help improve the grounding of the shield to the plug in any way.

Just my semi educated $.02 worth on the matter.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/5/2010 4:10 AM

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What size tank is recommended for the DL30? I am thinking of using in a 20 lb scale project.
Also, has anyone used the shaft extension to push it out 3/4"?

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 1:18 AM

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I have a new DLE 30... my first gas.... What airplane would you recommend for this engine? what would your favorite airplane be and what weight do you recommend....?

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 1:36 AM

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Richard,
Put it on a four star 120, and dont worry about the weight.
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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 1:47 AM

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Richard:

The Pilot RC 25% aircraft (Extra 260, SBach 342, and YAK54) are all nice airplanes and are made for this engine. I have the SBach342 with the DLE30. What a nice combo. The quality is outstanding and hardware is all good and is there.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 1:49 AM

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Richard:

Also the Sbach 342 and DLE-30 combo weighs in at 12-1/2 lbs ready to fly.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 2:31 AM

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Extreme Flight RC 78" Extra 300 works great with the DLE-30

http://www.extremeflightrc.com/html/78extra.html

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 3:07 AM

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Engine troubles. Had about 4 dead sticks today and one a few days ago. If anybody has any ideas that would be great as this is my first gasser.

What I can tell you now:

- New DLE-30 running NGK CM-6 plug, 4.8v 2500 mAh NiMH ign battery.
- 1.2 gallons of fuel run through so far at 32:1, first 20 oz was on the ground.
- 42% Opto kill switch.
- Properly vented 16oz tank with separate fueling, venting, and engine fuel line with walbro 527 felt clunk.
- Lots of black exhaust crud the first gallon but it's starting to subside now. I'm told this is normal.

Since the intial start this engine has ran smooth as a kitten. Broke in with 18x8 prop, now running Xoar 19x8 getting about 7200 rpm. Running factory needle settings intiatially at sea level. Leaned the low and high 1/8 turn today after the dead sticks, still no difference. The transition has always been perfect without even a hint of a hiccup since day one. The engine performs perfect in verticle, inverted, etc. Idle is great and has only gotten smoother with just a little burble between 1/4 and 1/2 throttle. The trouble usually comes after the first 5 min. While just cruising wings level at half throttle or so it'll just start coughing for no reason with a severe reduction in power and usually die. Sometimes it'll start coughing at any power setting though. On one landing it was still running, but at a pathetic very rough low idle with almost no response to full throttle followed by a backfire and flameout. With the engine cowl off results are the same. I can also usually get it to repeat on the ground if I run it long enough. Subsequently, without doing anything to the engine it starts right back up 10 min later, running fine like nothing happened.

The plug looks fine at a nice brown color and dry. The ignition battery has never gotten below about 5.2v. What's odd is most times it's also making a loud backfire right before it quits but it just runs perfect the other 99% of the time. Today my first 3 flights were 20min each and all went great, then after 5 min into the 4th flight the dead sticks started. I also charged my ign battery at the field thinking that was it but I doubt it. One thing of note also is that when the engine is running very rough on the ground I can see that the red ignition light from the opto kill switch flickers.

I'm thinking this could be an ignition or timing issue?, or do I just not have the needles tuned correctly? Thanks all.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 3:18 AM

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Engine troubles. Had about 4 dead sticks today and one a few days ago. If anybody has any ideas that would be great as this is my first gasser.

What I can tell you now:

- New DLE-30 running NGK CM-6 plug, 4.8v 2500 mAh NiMH ign battery.
- 1.2 gallons of fuel run through so far at 32:1, first 20 oz was on the ground.
- 42% Opto kill switch.
- Properly vented 16oz tank with separate fueling, venting, and engine fuel line with walbro 527 felt clunk.
- Lots of black exhaust crud the first gallon but it's starting to subside now. I'm told this is normal.

Since the intial start this engine has ran smooth as a kitten. Broke in with 18x8 prop, now running Xoar 19x8 getting about 7200 rpm. Running factory needle settings intiatially at sea level. Leaned the low and high 1/8 turn today after the dead sticks, still no difference. The transition has always been perfect without even a hint of a hiccup since day one. The engine performs perfect in verticle, inverted, etc. Idle is great and has only gotten smoother with just a little burble between 1/4 and 1/2 throttle. The trouble usually comes after the first 5 min. While just cruising wings level at half throttle or so it'll just start coughing for no reason with a severe reduction in power and usually die. Sometimes it'll start coughing at any power setting though. On one landing it was still running, but at a pathetic very rough low idle with almost no response to full throttle followed by a backfire and flameout. With the engine cowl off results are the same. I can also usually get it to repeat on the ground if I run it long enough. Subsequently, without doing anything to the engine it starts right back up 10 min later, running fine like nothing happened.

The plug looks fine at a nice brown color and dry. The ignition battery has never gotten below about 5.2v. What's odd is most times it's also making a loud backfire right before it quits but it just runs perfect the other 99% of the time. Today my first 3 flights were 20min each and all went great, then after 5 min into the 4th flight the dead sticks started. I also charged my ign battery at the field thinking that was it but I doubt it. One thing of note also is that when the engine is running very rough on the ground I can see that the red ignition light from the opto kill switch flickers.

I'm thinking this could be an ignition or timing issue?, or do I just not have the needles tuned correctly? Thanks all.

Try running the engine without the kill switch. Also, actually SET the needles! Then report back here.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 3:28 AM

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I agree, I'll remove the kill switch. Seems like the needles are tuned great at the moment.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 4:31 AM

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What size tank is recommended for the DL30? I am thinking of using in a 20 lb scale project.
Also, has anyone used the shaft extension to push it out 3/4''?

Thanks
Mike

I'd like to know what the fuel range on this engine is too.
getting ready to fire mine up so i can figure it out the old fashioned way

, but would appreciate info from others here.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 5:31 PM

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I'm using a 16oz tank and it seems plenty for me on a sport plane where my flying style is around 1/2 throttle. So far with total engine run times of 22 min, I land with at least 1/4 to 1/3 of a tank of gas remaining. I think a more hardstyle or 3D flying would still safely give about 15 min of endurance on 16oz.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 8:27 PM

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Richard:

Also the Sbach 342 and DLE-30 combo weighs in at 12-1/2 lbs ready to fly.

Thanks to everyone what made a suggestion for my DLE 30...

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 10:06 PM

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I'm using a 16oz tank and it seems plenty for me on a sport plane where my flying style is around 1/2 throttle. So far with total engine run times of 22 min, I land with at least 1/4 to 1/3 of a tank of gas remaining. I think a more hardstyle or 3D flying would still safely give about 15 min of endurance on 16oz.

thx Cash,

sounds like about 1 minute per oz is a safe figure.
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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/6/2010 11:46 PM

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Engine problems solved.

Without doing anything else, I removed the opto kill switch last night and then flew a full hour of flight time today. The engine never skipped a beat and ran great just as it always has had, when the ignition was continously on that is. Should've known it was the kill switch when I saw the red light flickering in combination with the engine coughing. It's possible it's faulty or it was my setup. I found some other threads where people were talking about the exact same problem as me however and said never again, and then on the same thread people have used these for hundreds of hours without fail. Don't know what to say other than I can't recommend that brand of kill switch. I know I could probably get a replacement for free but I think I like the KISS method now. The servo choke works great anyway for killing the engine. I realize my plane could possibly fly away now if I lose the transmitter or receiver, but as long as I can recover it, damage likely may be about the same anyway.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/7/2010 1:44 AM

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Engine problems solved.

Without doing anything else, I removed the opto kill switch last night and then flew a full hour of flight time today. The engine never skipped a beat and ran great just as it always has had, when the ignition was continously on that is. Should've known it was the kill switch when I saw the red light flickering in combination with the engine coughing. It's possible it's faulty or it was my setup. I found some other threads where people were talking about the exact same problem as me however and said never again, and then on the same thread people have used these for hundreds of hours without fail. Don't know what to say other than I can't recommend that brand of kill switch. I know I could probably get a replacement for free but I think I like the KISS method now. The servo choke works great anyway for killing the engine. I realize my plane could possibly fly away now if I lose the transmitter or receiver, but as long as I can recover it, damage likely may be about the same anyway.

my eyeballs are totally bloodshot from searching the Kill switch threads. finally gave up as there are as many cons to the pros on the subject and PM'ed a couple people who have been helping me with questions.
while the idea of the engine power being cut via a loss of Tx/Rx communication sounds great, i think i will go with the ol tried and true servo to switch actuation to kill the engine.........

maybe these switches are too delicate?

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/7/2010 2:27 AM

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If you don't want to use a kill switch you can still prevent your plane from flying away with your choke servo. Just program the fail safe for that channel to close the choke when Tx signal is lost. You should have also programmed the throttle servo to go to a fully closed position in fail safe mode as well.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/7/2010 3:46 AM

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NO REPLY.......JUST A LINK TO A VIDEO WITH GOOD TIPS.... Capt,n

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhzcp5zE-vs&NR=1

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/7/2010 6:21 AM

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I'm saving my pennies every day for a DLE 30 don't have a plane picked out yet but I'm looking

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/8/2010 5:26 PM

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I'm saving my pennies every day for a DLE 30 don't have a plane picked out yet but I'm looking

Ditto that...hoping after the end of the year that I'll have enough to get a DLE-30 and a kit to build into a home for it.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/8/2010 6:38 PM

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I'm saving my pennies every day for a DLE 30 don't have a plane picked out yet but I'm looking

Ditto that...hoping after the end of the year that I'll have enough to get a DLE-30 and a kit to build into a home for it.

My eyes are on this for the DLE 30

http://www.aero-works.net/store/detail.aspx?ID=442

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/8/2010 6:46 PM

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I'm saving my pennies every day for a DLE 30 don't have a plane picked out yet but I'm looking

Ditto that...hoping after the end of the year that I'll have enough to get a DLE-30 and a kit to build into a home for it.

My eyes are on this for the DLE 30
http://www.aero-works.net/store/detail.aspx?ID=442

Yeah, that's a nice plane...wish I could afford one.
I'm going to build a kit version of the Edge 540 instead.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/8/2010 6:58 PM

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'I'm going to build a kit version of the Edge 540 instead'

Which kit is that? Could be a nice winter project.

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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/8/2010 7:04 PM

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'I'm going to build a kit version of the Edge 540 instead'

Which kit is that? Could be a nice winter project.

The Edge 540 kit from D&L Designs: http://www.dldesigns.net/edge.htm
The web site says it requires a 30cc to 50cc engine, so I'm not totally sure the DLE-30 will be enough, but I like the idea of a building a larger plane from a kit instead of buying an ARF. If the DLE-30 won't be enough, perhaps I'll have to get the DLE-50...just not sure yet.

If anyone knows other kits that would be a good fit for the DLE-30, please let me know.

I notice you are in Buffalo Grove...do you fly at Deer Grove or somewhere else?
My club field is in Ringwood but I fly at Deer Grove from time to time, usually on my way to/from work in Deerfield.
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RE: NEW DLE30! - 11/8/2010 7:09 PM

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Yes, I fly at Deer Grove. I'm in Blue Max Flying Club and usually fly weekends in the morning.

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