BME 116 how different than 115?    Gallery
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as Guest



Users viewing this topic: none
    Search This Thread  
 
Printable Version


RCexl ignition for most any engine
Seller:  BadAzzMaxx
Details:   $54.95   |  4/26/2013   |  Classified Ad
We will rotate YOUR AD in this spot if you select "Forum Featured" when placing or editing your ad!

All Forums >> Glow Engines, Gas Engines, Fuel & Mfg Support Forums >> Gas Engines >> BME 116 how different than 115?
Page: [1]

Tower Hobbies Get Coupon Codes Brands  
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/7/2009 7:24 PM   
WRK


 

Posts: 591
Score: 105
Joined: 4/27/2002
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: Milwaukee, WI, USA
Status: offline 		Now that the 116 is out and debugged I am wondering what the differences are between the two engines ..... read block? reads? carburetor? Ignition?

In other words, what do you change to turn a 115 into a 116?

thanks........

Hide Signatures
       Post #: 1

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/7/2009 8:54 PM   
RTK



Posts: 4892
Score: 116
Joined: 4/21/2003
Last Login: 5/16/2013
From: Left Coast , CA, USA
Status: offline 		The 115 and 116 are identical EXCEPT for the reed block assembly and carb. The first owner went with the name cc designation of 115 even though it is over 116cc's. That is if my calculations from a few years ago are correct.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to WRK)
       Post #: 2

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/7/2009 9:50 PM   
bhall01



Posts: 146
Score: 100
Joined: 2/21/2002
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: Britton, MI, USA
Status: offline 		Different ignition too - the original BME 115 came with a Falkon igntion, I believe a CH ignition was optional. The "new" BME 116 comes with an RCExcel ignition.

I sent my BME 115 in for the 'upgrade' to the latest & greatest BME 116 - new reed housing (aluminum & 'stuffed'); new carb - WGA7 on mine, although I hear they also may use the WGA9, apparently no much diifference; and a new ignition (RCExcel).

Night & day difference in performance - hand starts easily (had to use a starter most of the time before), runs great, transitions great, no mid-range issues, no loading up when inverted at lower throttle settings, crazy top-end power..... NOW it's a great engine! Was pretty much ready to use it as a doorstop before!


Barry

_____________________________

No matter where you go, there you are.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to RTK)
       Post #: 3

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/7/2009 10:17 PM   
RTK



Posts: 4892
Score: 116
Joined: 4/21/2003
Last Login: 5/16/2013
From: Left Coast , CA, USA
Status: offline 		Good point, forgot to mention the ignition changes.

It sure is a nice, light, powerful good running engine now.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to bhall01)
       Post #: 4

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/8/2009 1:06 AM   
altavillan


 

Posts: 1416
Score: 100
Joined: 10/24/2004
Last Login: 6/18/2012
From: Altaville, CA, USA
Status: offline 		SSSSSSSSSSSSssHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

_____________________________

I didn''''t put the bullet in the fire and you quit talking about my mother! "Cosby, Shop Class, 1968 or so"

Hide Signatures

(in reply to RTK)
       Post #: 5

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/8/2009 1:46 AM   
RTK



Posts: 4892
Score: 116
Joined: 4/21/2003
Last Login: 5/16/2013
From: Left Coast , CA, USA
Status: offline 		Altivillan,-You just want to be able to pick some up on the cheap

Hide Signatures

(in reply to altavillan)
       Post #: 6

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/8/2009 1:54 AM   
LanceLKs


 

Posts: 51
Score: 100
Joined: 3/31/2008
Last Login: 4/27/2013
From: central, KS, USA
Status: offline 		The crankshaft is also changed. The 116 has an improved designed with different counterweights.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to RTK)
       Post #: 7

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/8/2009 5:28 AM   
Tired Old Man


 

Posts: 18600
Score: 662
Joined: 2/25/2002
Last Login: 1/16/2012
From: Valley Springs, CA, USA
Status: offline 		Much better crank. The new one has the rod phasing correct. WGA-9 carb is now standard. The WGA-7 is no longer in production.

_____________________________

Never lie, and never minimize or gloss. Tell it like it is and let the pieces fall where they may. The truth always wins.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to LanceLKs)
       Post #: 8

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/8/2009 5:28 AM   
altavillan


 

Posts: 1416
Score: 100
Joined: 10/24/2004
Last Login: 6/18/2012
From: Altaville, CA, USA
Status: offline 		No. I just like having the only 115's at the field. Got a chance to fly formation with the 106 at the field for a bit. Twice the vertical speed his had and straight and level I was near 1/2 throttle and leaving him in the dust.

I think things should remain just the way they are.

_____________________________

I didn''''t put the bullet in the fire and you quit talking about my mother! "Cosby, Shop Class, 1968 or so"

Hide Signatures

(in reply to LanceLKs)
       Post #: 9

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/8/2009 7:41 AM   
branwell


 

Posts: 71
Score: 100
Joined: 4/17/2006
Last Login: 12/20/2009
From: Delaplane, VA, USA
Status: offline 		I think there are some changes to the front of the crankcase as well.

Here is a pic of the current 116. If you look at where the nose joins the crankcase, you can see its drilled out. On the earlier motors, it was completely machined out. My guess is it flexes less now.

Branwell

Attachments
Click to see fullsize image.
Click for fullsize


Hide Signatures

(in reply to altavillan)
       Post #: 10

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/8/2009 7:50 AM   
LanceLKs


 

Posts: 51
Score: 100
Joined: 3/31/2008
Last Login: 4/27/2013
From: central, KS, USA
Status: offline 		There were a couple of different front snouts on the case. One was actually two pieces. I believe that was the solid one with no holes.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to branwell)
       Post #: 11

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/8/2009 7:09 PM   
WRK


 

Posts: 591
Score: 105
Joined: 4/27/2002
Last Login: 5/23/2013
From: Milwaukee, WI, USA
Status: offline 		The new one has the rod phasing correct ?? Translation please.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to LanceLKs)
       Post #: 12

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/9/2009 3:22 AM   
Tired Old Man


 

Posts: 18600
Score: 662
Joined: 2/25/2002
Last Login: 1/16/2012
From: Valley Springs, CA, USA
Status: offline 		Some of the first virsions (Keith Baker made) had rod phasing out of sync. Meaning that both pistons did not attain TDC at the same time. The new cranks (BME Tom made) corrected that issue.

The case is also slightly thicker than it was initially. Much better for strength, heat soaking, and longevity.

_____________________________

Never lie, and never minimize or gloss. Tell it like it is and let the pieces fall where they may. The truth always wins.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to WRK)
       Post #: 13

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/10/2009 8:16 AM   
Albatross


 

Posts: 441
Score: 100
Joined: 9/12/2002
Last Login: 12/27/2012
From: Mexico City, MEXICO
Status: offline 		By the way, now that BME 116 has been debugged, has anyone tried this engine at high altitudes yet? Saying @ 5900 + ft

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Tired Old Man)
       Post #: 14

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 7/10/2009 11:32 PM   
Tired Old Man


 

Posts: 18600
Score: 662
Joined: 2/25/2002
Last Login: 1/16/2012
From: Valley Springs, CA, USA
Status: offline 		High altitudes start at 12,000'. Anythig below that is normal operating ranges. In any case, the 116 works just like any other normally aspirated, "sea level" engine. The higher the altitude the less power available. With the 116 you have a lot more power to start with so you end up with more over other 100cc class engines at the same increased altitudes.

_____________________________

Never lie, and never minimize or gloss. Tell it like it is and let the pieces fall where they may. The truth always wins.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Albatross)
       Post #: 15

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 11/1/2012 6:53 AM   
Albatross


 

Posts: 441
Score: 100
Joined: 9/12/2002
Last Login: 12/27/2012
From: Mexico City, MEXICO
Status: offline 		Should I use high Octane Gas (>90) on BME116?

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Tired Old Man)
       Post #: 16

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 11/1/2012 4:18 PM   
LanceLKs


 

Posts: 51
Score: 100
Joined: 3/31/2008
Last Login: 4/27/2013
From: central, KS, USA
Status: offline 		Why not use what the manufacturer says.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Albatross)
       Post #: 17

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 11/1/2012 4:46 PM   
RTK



Posts: 4892
Score: 116
Joined: 4/21/2003
Last Login: 5/16/2013
From: Left Coast , CA, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Albatross

Should I use high Octane Gas (>90) on BME116?


I would use high octane or avgas if available.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Albatross)
       Post #: 18

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 11/15/2012 4:01 AM   
Rebel Flyr


 

Posts: 48
Score: 100
Joined: 6/18/2008
Last Login: 5/20/2013
From: Christiansburg, VA, USA
Status: offline 		I was told by a chainsaw technician of 40 years that our 2 stroke engines can not benefit from the high octane fuels like cam 2 and avgas. He said something about the flash point of the high octane can not be reached in such a small combustion chamber of our little 2 stroke engines and that is was just a waste of money. He told me if I need more power I need to get a bigger engine.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to RTK)
       Post #: 19

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 11/15/2012 4:27 AM   
LanceLKs


 

Posts: 51
Score: 100
Joined: 3/31/2008
Last Login: 4/27/2013
From: central, KS, USA
Status: offline 		Ask your chainsaw technician how you keep detonation from destroying the engine. Is he gonna buy you more pistons, cylinders or ultimately a new airplane?

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Rebel Flyr)
       Post #: 20

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 11/15/2012 4:31 AM   
RTK



Posts: 4892
Score: 116
Joined: 4/21/2003
Last Login: 5/16/2013
From: Left Coast , CA, USA
Status: offline 		Most two strokes are low compression so high octane is not of much use. With some of the higher compression 2 strokes it can be and is beneficial. The one thing I can guarantee is, if you are lean and or running hot, the higher octane will keep detonation from happening and that can save your engine. Believe it or not some of these little two strokes are 11.5:1
Put a pipe on a two stroke, run low octane in hot weather a little lean pushing it hard and wait for the detonation, even the low compression ones.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Rebel Flyr)
       Post #: 21

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 11/15/2012 2:30 PM   
Steve



Posts: 2124
Score: 100
Joined: 12/3/2001
Last Login: 5/22/2013
From: Ashton, ID, USA
Status: offline 		Hey RTK,
Are you still running a couple BME engines? I've been thinking about a 116.


_____________________________

AKA,, "The Spleen"
If you want to see my Super Power,,, pull my finger.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to RTK)
       Post #: 22

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 11/15/2012 4:36 PM   
RTK



Posts: 4892
Score: 116
Joined: 4/21/2003
Last Login: 5/16/2013
From: Left Coast , CA, USA
Status: offline 		Yep, I still have one of the first two of the 110 and 116. The 110 has to be about 10 years old now. There are many good engines on the market now, BME being one of the good one

Hide Signatures

(in reply to Steve)
       Post #: 23

RE: BME 116 how different than 115? - 11/17/2012 3:29 PM   
Steve



Posts: 2124
Score: 100
Joined: 12/3/2001
Last Login: 5/22/2013
From: Ashton, ID, USA
Status: offline 		I still run the .90, 58, and 105. I sold my 110 and have been kicking myself every since.


_____________________________

AKA,, "The Spleen"
If you want to see my Super Power,,, pull my finger.

Hide Signatures

(in reply to RTK)
       Post #: 24

Page:   [1]
All Forums >> Glow Engines, Gas Engines, Fuel &amp; Mfg Support Forums >> Gas Engines >> BME 116 how different than 115?
Page: [1]





Jump to:


 
Google 



Search | Marketplace | Event Calendar | Local Clubs | Magazine | Product Ratings | New Products | Discussion Forums

Photo Gallery | Instructor Search | Field|Track|Marina Search

Advertisers | Hobby Vendor Resources | Rate Manufacturers | Sign In/Sign Up

SITE MAP!   : :   FORUM RULES

RC Universe is a service of Internet Brands, Inc. Copyright © 2001-2013.

Charities we support that also need your help
Yorkie Rescue | Humane Society | ASPCA | Crohn's-Colitis America


0.938RCU1