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ORIGINAL: DanMacMurray
Clearly you have enough intelligence to know that by coming across as an angry old man set in his ways , you would do nothing to further your own statements and opinions in the eyes of others here , i commend you for that .
Fair enough. While I disagree with your assessment of Bill, this certainly isn't the place to discuss that...nor would doing so really be necessary.
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''Clearly you've been doing RC...and been alive..longer than I have.''
Nice try , the fish aren't biting ... what does Age or Modeling experience have to do with this ??? ..... is this a standard baiting technique of yours ? Does it work ?
Wasn't baiting at all, though I suppose I can see why it came across that way.
Perhaps I'm "unusual" in that I genuinely value the experience and wisdom that comes with age...either in terms of years on this planet, or in terms of years of experience doing something.
You do, from your statements (30 years, i believe you said, in this hobby) have considerably more experience in this hobby than I. Further, I'm making the presumption (though certainly, I could be wrong) that, with 30 years in this hobby, you've been alive longer than I was well.
So it's a genuine acknowledgment that you have wisdom and experience I don't...in the world, and in this hobby. I find the older I get, the smarter my father was...and I suspect that to be true of others from generations before mine.
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I agree with some of what you say , much of it i don't ..... i think that things are evolving in many different ways in our Nation (some good some bad) and i don't think that any one of us can see the issues so clearly as to presume to know that we are doomed as a nation or ''Dying'' , Period .
While you certainly haven't said as much, I get the impression from some of your statements...and the way that you phrase them...that you have a deep and abiding love of this country. I might even go so far to guess that you've served it at some point.
I feel the same about myself. That's why I'm bothered by this. I feel this country is...or at least was...the embodiment of certain ideals I hold very near and dear. I don't think it's at all unreasonable then to assert that...if those ideals are no longer held...the nation is "dying". At the very least, the nation i want it to be, and believe it was meant to be, is.
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i know in my heart that our intelligence and drive have not been stricken in the way that some on this thread and others would have ''US'' believe , my experiences with people have led me to believe otherwise , and in this thought i stand firm .
Can you explain why you believe this?
Do we simply meet radically different types of people in our daily lives? (Certainly possible, I admit) Or am i wrong in my interpretation of the people I deal with?
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I also know better to engage in an argument with someone who will simply throw flowery , ornate , and very LONG prose at a disagreement until the original issue is muddied so badly that no one , not even the OP , much less the respondents directly involved , can see the forest for the trees , fire trucks , and burnt stumps .
Hope you understand .
I don't, but clearly the decision is yours. 
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Best wishes and a healthy respect .
To you as well.
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ORIGINAL: GerKonig
You are right, hams are being lost, and it is a real shame. Hams can communicate when others can NOT. Remember 9/11, remember New Orleans? What was the first thing gone? Exactly: Cellular communications.
A high price was paid for being "incommunicated", specially the police and the emergency response people. I am afraid (I hope I am wrong) that that loss fill be felt in the future...
I agree...and I think the point is applicable here. HAM Radio is "one more thing"...just another example of the sort of tinkering, experimenting, producing, doing for ourselves learning that is eroding.
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I think our country has been polarized to the extreme. Everybody is an extemist, everybody has THE only way of doing things right. Everybody else is wrong. Peolle demonize people becuse they do not gree with their ideas.
Again, I agree. I feel that's become so true that even a genuine acknowledgment of another's potentially superior wisdom and insight is presumed to be "baiting".
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We are a dying nation because ARFs are the dominating factor in this hobby?
No.
ARFs are the dominating factor in this hobby because we're a dying nation.
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Well, I think some builders are a dying breed, and to a minute to soon. Ignorance and intolerance is manifested everywhere (Rcuniverse is not exempt) in this country, it is an ambarrasment, sad to say.
I believe that to be a fairly gross generalization. I believe intolerance has been fairly represented by both builders and non-builders in this thread. 
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I own my business, no I am not a union person, but to deny what unions have done to help workers in this country in the past would be silly (like dome misminformed soul posted earlier).
With this I'd have to agree. I'm no fan of unions, by any stretch...indeed, I genuinely dislike and distrust them. I can not help but acknowledge, however, the impact they had in the past securing some very basic rights for employees.
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