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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 6/27/2003 9:23:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		In a past Model Aviation R/C Pylon Racing column, Duane Gall presented a proposed set of rules for a new racing class called F1 Sport. It uses .91 2 cycle engines and approximately 25-28% scale Formula 1 airplanes.

You can read more about the class at [URL=http://www.pylonworld.com/rc_pylon/f1_sport/f1_sport.htm]Formula 1 Sport[/URL].

Plans for this Cosmic Wind are available through the link above. A fiberglass fuselage version will also be available soon.

Duane didn't have time to fix up the pics to RCU specs, so I did it for him.

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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 6/27/2003 9:24:05 PM   
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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 6/27/2003 9:27:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's a side view.

If you looked at the photo on the [url]www.PylonWorld.com[/url] site, you saw a clear canopy. This one has a fiberglass canopy, but you can use a clear canopy and put a smiling pilot inside.

Duane says that he wears a big smile while he's flying this plane.

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Remedial graphics dept. - 6/27/2003 9:52:13 PM   
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Thanks. And before anybody starts firing tracers about how this is "just another distraction to dilute the entry pool", I want to re-emphasize that it's entirely provisional (see the AMA rule book) and aimed at NEW folks who haven't, wouldn't, or can't run the official Nats classes at their field.

That's not to say that a diehard competitor couldn't have a blast flying it for sport, or put it on the course with some like-minded ARF drivers on a Sunday afternoon. I do!!!

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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 6/30/2003 12:43:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Now who would take shots at you Duane?

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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 7/20/2003 8:43:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I liked Duane's Cosmic Wind so much I convinced him to lend me the molds so I could make some for myself and my friends.

Here is a picture of the first one out of the oven.

It has a 50K Carbon Fiber tow former and stringer structure. I think it added a few ounces, but this is one stiff fuselage.

I went overboard with the microballoons and cabosil in the cowl ring and in the fillet on this one.

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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 7/20/2003 8:48:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here is a side view of the other side. I didn't go cabosil / microballoon happy in the wing fillet, and you can see the CF better.

The front cheek cowl was the first attempt. I switched to a different resin, and I also did the second one with single piece layers. I thought the cheeks were so deep that I would have trouble and I used overlapping cloth on the first one. However, they actually lay up much easier with the single piece layers.

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Director's Cut - 7/23/2003 9:47:32 PM   
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That looks real nice! I am SO glad those molds aren't just sitting around in my basement, gathering dust.

So many projects, so little time ... I wonder if you could get a McArthur grant for this kind of thing?!?

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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 7/25/2003 5:56:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for letting me use the molds ... can't wait to get my "Minnow" built.

Hey, if you're a McArthur nominator, I'll take a Fellowship.

Surely expanding the R/C pylon racing community and opportunities would be beneficial to humanity.

There is a great article in the current Flying (or Plane and Pilot) magazine about "Airport Kids" and how they still exist, just in a different way, as technology has allowed them to experience the thrill of navigation, basic aviation skills, etc.

I know for a fact that the really hot young guns in pylon racing are using RealFlight G2 with a certain flying field and certain airplanes to enhance their skills ... think about the future of pylon if everyone who has a copy of RealFlight G2 would take a few minutes and try out pylon racing, and get their kids to try it.

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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 8/7/2003 9:28:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had a very interesting call yesterday about the Cosmic Winds. A gentleman called and was interested in what I know about the Cosmic Winds. He's built two RV-4's that use similar construction to the full size Cosmic Winds. I learned some stuff from him, and he learned some stuff from me. It was a quite amazing conversation.

I happened to remember that the 1973 NMPRA Pylon Racing Book had a photo of the French Quarter Special (#7) in the back. He had never seen the photo, which is one of the best side views I've ever seen. I'm attaching it here for viewing, since there was no photo credit or copyright message.

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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 8/7/2003 9:31:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		For some photos of #10, aka Slick, check out this web site: http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2000/10/stuff_eng_bruun_goodyear.htm

Slick was the first Cosmic Wind to be flown, and it was flown by Herman "Fish" Salmon. As I remember from prior studies, Slick was modified and the turtle deck was replaced by a bubble canopy. It then became the Minnow (#4) for 1948.

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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 8/7/2003 9:31:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is a good view of the turtle deck on Slick.

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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 8/7/2003 9:39:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		One thing I did learn is that a Cosmic Wind is hanging in the EAA Museum in Oshkosh. We believe this to be the Cosmic Wind that had an O-320 installed in it. The name of the plane is Mr. Robertson. Apparently, it was one of the original group of Cosmic Winds that were started. It first flew in 1994, and unfortunately the owner/pilot died in a crash in another plane not long after finishing it. This is most likely the Cosmic Wind that I saw for sale in the GA aircraft for-sale rags like Trade-A-Plane back in the mid to late 90's. I almost inquired about buying it. Apparently, the gentleman's widow was encouraged to donate it to the EAA museum.

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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 8/7/2003 5:11:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some years ago there was a "1/4 scale" Pylon Racing circuit, I believe it was based around Cleveland. It was called the Loctite series. I raced in it once when a club in Buffalo, N.Y. staged a race.

I used the 1/4 scale Cosmic Wind produced by Joe Bridi. I started off with a .60 two stroke for power, upgraded to 90 four stroke and ended up with 1.20 four stroke. I still have the templates I made, also fuselage, wheel pant and cowling molds.

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Duane Gall's F1 Sport 28% Cosmic Wind - 8/7/2003 8:27:09 PM   
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I'll email you about the molds.

One thing I forgot to mention is that the gentleman is researching the Cosmic Wind so that he can build a full sized one.

One thing he wasn't aware of was the connection behind the Cosmic Wind and the Midget Mustang. The two groups that built the two types of planes had connections with both Piper and Lockheed. They were the first all aluminum monocoque Goodyear racers built.

One thing I found out was that over 400 Midget Mustang projects have been started, with many completions. The builder of the Midget Mustang documented the construction, and sold the rights to the plans. They are still available today.

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