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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 6/29/2003 1:46:23 AM   
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i've got two knackered yachts.
ones a Lesro 757 thats got a plastic hull, with the area around the rudder compleatly.. umm screwed lol it's no longer part of the boat. i need to compleatly rebuild the mast and top deck.
the other is pretty much the same, a bit smaller, and looks a bit more.. sporty. rudders ok, but the keel has snapped off, looks like a ok fix. it has a CF mast that i'm sure was in one piece when i saw dad bring it home, now it's snapped. will get pics soon and have a good look over both. i miss having a yacht to while away the hours.

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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 6/29/2003 2:14:45 AM   
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ok first pic, the 575, umm doh, called it a 757 before lol
rudder missing, and mast fixings pulled away. not the easiest fix, however, i've had this boat for years

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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 6/29/2003 2:18:23 AM   
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lets call this one bluey. cant find the rest of the keel right now, the mast just fits into a hole in the top deck, looks like two holes, think this changes something about how the yacht behaves. looks like fixing the keel and getting a new mast will sort it.

so which would you do?

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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 7/1/2003 1:23:20 AM   
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Lets fix Bluey,
Why bother looking for the old Keel when you can make your own! What youll end up with is some lead whieghts sourounded by fiberglass-epoxy. For that wonderfull mast, you can find some carbon fiber TUBES NOT STICKS that will make good lightweight jobies. And your right, if there are two holes for the mast, each one will make the boat perform differently acording to the current wind situations. Moving the mast forward will improve handling while back improves pointing (into the wind)but is on the verge of out of control.

I'll have pictures/ diagrams of what to do with your mast tomorow or the day after.

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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 7/1/2003 1:38:26 AM   
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Bluey is already on the mend i've replaced two line fixing points with new eyes.
i was gonna get a dowel today, but the weather was good so i came home right from work so i could go to the beach
the local shop has CF tubes too, dont worry, i knew tube not rod, but i'm gussing it'll be about 9 pounds for a lenght, and the dowel, 50-80p lol. the rest of the yacht is nothing special, no need for CF here
apparently the keel WAS with the yacht when dad brought it home, its somewhere in the garage, maybe on the floor. i'll have to move his car out and have a good look. the keel is hollow, so a 1/32 ply tounge will sort it
there might be some dowel up there too. if not i'll measure what i have and go buy.
theres a few things on this yacht new to me. the sail is held on with hooks on a tight string. not rails like the 575, and the rear boom has many holes. only one makes the sail tight at all, the rest are all over the place.
I'll try and get some more pics of things soon. i'll also add this as a build page on my site.

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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 7/1/2003 11:51:18 AM   
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heres a few pics.
sail layout

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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 7/1/2003 11:52:25 AM   
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mast attachments

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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 7/1/2003 11:53:00 AM   
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rear sail adjustment

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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 7/1/2003 11:53:35 AM   
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front sail

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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 7/1/2003 11:56:03 AM   
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mast head.
the blue line goes to the back of the yacht, and also pulls the rear sail up the tight line also visiable right behind the mast as the yellow line.
the red is attached to the top of the front sail and hooks to the head.
pink is 3 lines, two of which goto the sides, the other runs down the front of the front sail.
green attaches to the front of the boat.
all a bit teci for what i know about yachts
im late for work, byeeeeeee, catch ya later

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Mast Head - 7/1/2003 3:59:22 PM   
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This will be one of the most complicated parts to get right


You will need to be sure the sail will not interfere with Back stay. In other words, make the piece plenty long.

You should also add a Bowi to adjust the back stay

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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 7/1/2003 4:10:49 PM   
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To save time, combine the green and pink lines together. The pink line will come from atop the mast, down (connected) to the sail and PAST the end of the sail to atatch to the very tippy front of the boat.

It sounds crude, but the best way to atatch the line to the jib is by folding the sail over around it. (girls usally do this best) : and depending on the sail material, sew it together

Pink= line
Blue= Jib Boom
Green= Sail (jib)

By the way, if at all possible, find some Green SpiderWire and use that for all the rigging. The stuff is impossibal to cut with scissors.

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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 7/1/2003 4:53:11 PM   
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This is one of the things I learned from racing Victorias. This is a little bent piece of Brass that alows adjusting the postion of the Jib.

Oh yea, make new booms for each sail out of would to save weight. Dont worry about them breaking, they wont.

I dont understand why this picture wont work. hmmmm

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NEW THREAD NAME: Let's Fix Bluey - 7/1/2003 11:01:54 PM   
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umm info over load right now
i was surprised to see the rear stay connected to the sail to tension it.
your pic dosnt show because its a .bmp btw
i was thinking of making a new head, i have enough CF scraps here to make a head, and new bits at the bottom of the sails.
will check the price of CF tube when i get a chance to goto the LSH.
green spiderwire... where can i find this? fishing shops? i was gonna use the stuff i have on the 575, black and white braded strand.
im gonna have a good look at these pics and then reply again.
oh yes, The pink line will come from atop the mast, down (connected) to the sail and PAST the end of the sail to atatch to the very tippy front of the boat.
i think the pink already does this.. ah, its attached to the sail, then looped round the ali bit at the bottom, not to the front of the boat.. so if i do this i can loose the green yes? isnt the bow to far away then? and the line trying to pull the sail forwards. currently the rear attachment is to the servo i guess.
if i get your BMP pic right, i attach the rear of the rear sail to the boat, then the winch adjusts the front? this is backwards to what i know.
ah man, im just gonna have to go back and check the pics again lol
im used to the 575. 4 lines tension the mast. then one tensions the jib and gos to a side mount, the other tensions the mail sail and goes to the other side mount.
jib currently has no fixings, its not big, so i'll sew on hooks and have another wire like the rear.

anyway, time to check these pics again
BIG Thanks
keep it comming.

heres a simple pic of Bluey if anything needs drawing.

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