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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/6/2012 12:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Has anyone mounted an OS 95V four stroke in the Revolver 70? My first Revolver had a Magnum .91 four stroke and flew well but on this one I was thinking of mounting the 95V. The problem is the head of the 95V is wider than the Magnum and I am having problems figuring out how to mount it without butchering the cowl for the muffler. So if anyone has mounted one I would appreciate any suggestions.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/6/2012 1:50 PM   
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I lost one of the Canopy screws , and do not know what are this specifications , could someone help me ?
here in Brazil it very hard to find this ...

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/6/2012 2:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		sudi9 - cool pictures of an Israeli RC flying day. Looks like a good group - some nice planes. I noticed you don't use a spinner on your Rev. You only hand-start your DLE 20? Or do you not like the look of the spinner?

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/6/2012 2:51 PM   
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Hi guys ...

I lost one of the Canopy screws , and do not know what are this specifications , could someone help me ?
here in Brazil it very hard to find this ...

Need to freeze ...


I believe they are 4-40 5/8 inch screws.

Bruce

Edit: corrected length.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/6/2012 3:03 PM   
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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/6/2012 3:19 PM   
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At the moment i don't have the 8.00X1 spinner nut, the one that comes with the rev kit is of different thread size does not fit the DLE so.......[>:]
By the way i am still able to start the DLE with the starter as is with no problems, hand starts are quite difficult, although another friend of mine starts his DLE by hand by flipping the prop 2-3 times.
The P-47 thunderbolt in the photo also has a DLE20, but it is not as fast as the REV70 , the DLE on the rev70 makes all the difference...........
All the guys at first were asking what kind of engine do you over there ?
Since i startred using this wonderfull gasser,i won't settle for nothing less[>:] especialy with the rev70.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/6/2012 3:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just checked and the bolt is 5/8 inchs long.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/6/2012 10:20 PM   
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Hand starts ought to be the norm for a gas engine.
Ignition on, choke on, flip until pop; choke off, throttle high idle, flip until start.

If it won't start with that procedure, your low end is probably too lean.

Or, it is flooded and you need to pull the plug, dry it off, clear the liquid gasoline, and try again. BTDT.





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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/6/2012 10:33 PM   
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The "cheap" revolver is a really attractive plane. Most of the club guys fly smaller glow planes, but you will see the occasional 60-90 sized AW extras or something nice. Nothing crazy. Oh, again, my buddy has a goldwing raven 88" which is a big WOW plane. But the Revolver is always a top attraction at the field. Whether flying or sitting, someone is asking questions about it. 

Now that Ive got my Extra 300 and P51 all dialed in, I can pull my Rev outta the box....



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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/6/2012 11:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Guys , listen to me ... RCGF 20cc BM is much better than DLE 20cc....

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/6/2012 11:23 PM   
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I just checked and the bolt is 5/8 inchs long.

Bruce



I have a digital micrometer OK , but what DUBRO screw I need to buy ? 4-40 x ? 2-56x ??? ??


I do not know what I need to buy .

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/6/2012 11:36 PM   
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Status: online 		I just checked my revolver, a 2-56 allen headed machine screw will fit, the length is about 1/2", if its too long it shouldn't matter, if that doesn't work replace both of the screws and the blind nuts, its easy to lose these anyway, they are so small

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/7/2012 12:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey sudi, Did you run the engine after cleaning that screen? You may have a different situation. I use that little gold anodized fuel filter from hanger9 between the tank and the carb.

I hand start mine and it is really easy. I have the choke on and give it a few flips to make sure its primed (first start of the day), turn the ign on and one or two flips will make it pop, then the choke comes off and one or two more flips and she is running.

My engine has taken two direct hits and only one needed any fixing. I replaced the bearings after the second crash. It ran like a top after being crashed. Its a tough little motor and its easy and affordable to work on (fix). Aside from the ignition. I used a DLE55 ignition, which doesnt have the "two stage timing" like the DLE20. It actually ran better. And I never had the issue with the rpm hanging, and not wanting to drop down to idle. It goes from high to idle with no issues. From what Ive heard, a good ignition makes a huge difference. Ive read about some guys who tried a cheaper gas engine and had problems getting them to run well. After they went to a rcexl ignition all the problems were gone. It was apparently a poor ignition being sold with the engine.

The RCGF 20 may be great, but I honestly couldnt imagine it being better. Once you get the DLE broken in and tuned right, it's as perfect a motor as I could imagine. Strong, responsive, consistent, easy to use. I dont see another 20cc having any more noticeable power.  The RCGF and the DLE are so close to being the same engine.

I dont understand how RCGF rate the power on their engines. The 15cc (which ive heard bad things about) is 2.4hp, beam mount 20cc is 2.9hp, the stand off 20cc is 2.6hp and the 26cc is 2.6hp?  how is the 26cc engine only .2hp more than the 15cc engine? Strange...

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/7/2012 2:32 AM   
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Here are some pics from saturday flying with the guys .
I had the chance to fly my REV70 twice, until i had some engine trouble, imust say that the Rev70 was faster than all of my compition over here .


Yipiiii, thx for the pics, you guys have a nice runway there. 



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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/7/2012 3:21 AM   
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The canopy bolts are 4-40; length is immaterial, so long as they are at least about 3/4" long
1" is fine; 1 1/4 is fine, etc



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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/7/2012 8:27 AM   
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The canopy bolts are 4-40; length is immaterial, so long as they are at least about 3/4'' long
1'' is fine; 1 1/4 is fine, etc



thats the dimensions ... Thanks man .


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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/7/2012 8:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		MACH2 , believe me , RCGF 20cc is much better . All DLE 20cc in Hobbyshops are getting dust , just because , RCGF have the same weight , more powerfull and exact the same setting up facilities. Once you try this you will leave all the DLE for a garage sell.
RCGF has more effective response , a lot of power ( flying , the difference is higher than the 2,6 / 2,9 hp listted at the spec. sheets) , and the "BM" model is the most recently engine of RCGF , otherwise , the 15cc is terrible !!!!
But believe me , 20cc BM is a must !

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/7/2012 11:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Flew my second Rev-7- with the DLE-20 in it Saturday. I love this plane and combo. The DLE-20 has all the power one would want and with a Xoar 17x6 prop it is fast with unlimited verticle. I did have one little problem. I fly off of a grass runway and on a=the third flight the landing gear just reaped out on what I would call a normal landing. I will admit it did bounce once than when it settled down the gear just came off. It was not to bad and I just epoxied the plywood gear mount back on and reenforecd it with expoxied fiberglass cloth. I also changed the landing gear to the Dubro gear for 60 size aircraft.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/7/2012 12:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is an example of why you should always go with your gut instincts. I flew the Rev several times Saturday and when I was done I did my usual empty tank routine and was not paying any real close attention. This plane is a glow fuel plane. Yesterday, I put it together and noticed that the tank still had fuel in it. My instinct was saying you better check this and not fly it right now. Well, I figured I just missed getting all the fuel out Saturday and no big deal.

So I fired her up and started with a couple circuits, inverts, rolls, etc. Then I came back with a fly-by then slowly moved to a low vertical and went straight up vertical with some juice. Next thing I know the engine dies and I am pressed with the wonderful deadstick. I am so glad I had good height before this thing knocked off because I was low when I started my upline.

I had plenty of time and room and yet I still managed to nose it over on landing it too hot from the deadstick which was my error. I have not had a unintentional deadstick in a very, very, long time and I just did not give the plane enough room yet I had gobs of room. It did very little damage, mostly messed my wheelpants up, which the fascinating thing is I just bought some from microdon! Timing is amazing on this one!

So here is the jist of the story and the root problem. I pulled the fuel tank out and the fuel lines were in small pieces about 1 to 2 inches long laying in the tank with the clunk. I normally take the stock lines out when I assemble a new plane and put higher quality line on which I did on the external lines but for some odd reason I had left the factory lines on the inside of the tank. I must have thought they were good lines. Pure junk and I knew better than to leave those lines in the tank. They were the bluish clear lines from the factory setup.

This plane is about two- three years old. If you are running glow and if you have stock factory fuel lines you might want to use my experience as an example to check those lines out! Might save your plane if it knocks off at the wrong time.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/7/2012 1:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Luchnia - About your damaged wheelpants, I just fixed a set of badly cracked wheelpants (on a different plane) last week with fiberglass and 30 min expoxy. The pants are now lots stronger than new.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/7/2012 5:37 PM   
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Luchnia - About your damaged wheelpants, I just fixed a set of badly cracked wheelpants (on a different plane) last week with fiberglass and 30 min expoxy. The pants are now lots stronger than new.


Agreed. I will take the old ones and probably fix them for spares. One of them has quite a bit of damage but I will look it over. I have "glassed" quite a bit over the years even did some custom glass work on bikes back in the day (that was when I thought I was cool. I got older and learned just how uncool I really was back then ). I used to do some body/fender and paint work too so it is just a little time and effort.

You are right you can make them much stronger than original, although adds a tiny bit of weight. Oh, btw, the wheel pants look great and I slapped the new fuel lines in.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/7/2012 5:42 PM   
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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/7/2012 5:51 PM   
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oooh, gas will eat up the silicone tubing. gotta have tygon. Im surprised that it lasted years!



No, my Rev 70 is glow/nitro fuel (OS 91FX). It had the right fuel line. It was just that factory junk they install that I used instead of changing it out. I run Viton and some Tygon on my gas planes and the high quality glow fuel line on my glow planes. Never had an issue until now and once I removed the old line I realized it was el-cheapo junk that who knows were it came from.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/7/2012 9:16 PM   
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Is it recommended to replace the fuel tank and lines annually? Or is that gasser Im thinking of?  Ive only been flying for 5 months and my oldest plane got a new fuel system about a month ago. I got it used and replaced the system (except for the tank) because it wasn't right.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/9/2012 2:00 PM   
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