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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/9/2012 5:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I must be the only one around running the stock landing gear on the Rev 70. I would like to see a set in carbon fiber just for the heck of it except cf is pricey when it comes to landing gear. Running the stock gear just makes me stay smooth on my landings....teaches me discipline All joking aside, the Rev 70 makes an inexperienced RC pilot like me look good

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/9/2012 5:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I looked at your post on how you did the repair of you gear and I have done the smae thing now. I really like the looks of the GP LG but the Dubro Gear is far move forgivings. I have it on 3 on my planes and never had an issue with it at all

Just to let you all know I fly off of a grass field and it had a few small holes here and there. We try to fill them when we find them but we miss a few at the begining of flying season and that is what happened to my gear. My landing speed with the stock gear was alright but when the right wheel hit the hole it just ripped the gear right off

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/9/2012 8:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow.. 196 pages of revolver... Does it ever get tiring. I remember in the old days (maybe page 10)..we used to use nitro..

My revolver is on the bench with minor gear fix issues. Even after the beefing up the block came loose. But it did last for quite some time. Havent posted here in a while , but Ive been lurking. Flew is my first IMAC this year... Lots of fun for all you pilots that want to perfect your flying..


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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/9/2012 8:27 PM   
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Wow.. 196 pages of revolver... Does it ever get tiring. I remember in the old days (maybe page 10)..we used to use nitro..



I am assembling my second one now and am putting an OS .95V four stroke engine in it. The first one had a Magnum .91 four stroke and flew great. See, some of us are still using glow!

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/9/2012 8:42 PM   
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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/9/2012 9:57 PM   
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How about a right wing for a Rev 70?

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/9/2012 10:26 PM   
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I must be the only one around running the stock landing gear on the Rev 70. I would like to see a set in carbon fiber just for the heck of it except cf is pricey when it comes to landing gear. Running the stock gear just makes me stay smooth on my landings....teaches me discipline All joking aside, the Rev 70 makes an inexperienced RC pilot like me look good


You're not the only one.  I'm on my second Rev 70 and my third set of gear with a spare set in waiting.  Yeah, my landings could use some work, but I'm sticking with the stock gear because they just help make the plane look so cool.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/10/2012 5:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		i think that this thread keeps on keepin on because it just revolves guys through who come across this plane. So it goes in waves.

Frankeldan, what plane are you using in IMAC?

I didnt have my revs too long, but i ripped the first pair of gear out of mine, fixed it, and on the second one I put a bunch of epoxy on the inside because there is about three dabs of glue from the factory. And i also had both reinforced with the aluminum plates on top and the bottom of the gear. Ill do the same on my third plane. Ill keep using them until they prove to be a pain in the butt, even with preventative measures.

The stock gear are able to use the wheel pants and the sweep looks really cool. Although it does help to rip the gear out when doing carrier landings. I try not to do them. but it happens.



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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/10/2012 6:17 AM   
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Wow.. 196 pages of revolver... Does it ever get tiring. I remember in the old days (maybe page 10)..we used to use nitro..



I am assembling my second one now and am putting an OS .95V four stroke engine in it. The first one had a Magnum .91 four stroke and flew great. See, some of us are still using glow!

Bruce



I like the glow four strokes. Theyre cool. The money is reason ill never have one. If im gonna pay that much for the engine, that thing cant cost me over 16 bucks a gallon. I think a gas four stroke would be sweet. but again, expensive.

Ive only got three planes. The only one that is gas is the Rev. The small glows aren't bad since they dont suck down too much fuel. But I think anything the size of the large Rev or bigger, Ill stick with the gas two stroke. VIIINNNN VIIIINNNN VIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/10/2012 6:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		mach2 - you can get good deals on used 4 stroke nitro engines right here on RCU, in the "Buy and Sell" section. I've bought most of my Nitro engines used, and most have been in good to very good shape.

In fact, I just did a quick check on RCU and found a YS-120 fs, an Enya 120 fs and an OS 120 fs (all excellent engines for the Rev 70) each asking $170-175, which is less than 1/2 the price of a new OS 110 fs.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/10/2012 12:59 PM   
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mach2 - you can get good deals on used 4 stroke nitro engines right here on RCU, in the ''Buy and Sell'' section. I've bought most of my Nitro engines used, and most have been in good to very good shape.

In fact, I just did a quick check on RCU and found a YS-120 fs, an Enya 120 fs and an OS 120 fs (all excellent engines for the Rev 70) each asking $170-175, which is less than 1/2 the price of a new OS 110 fs.


Great advice.

I have purchased quite a few glow engines on RCU Market Place and all but one have been excellent and all I had to do on the one was put bearings in. The rating system is really a nice tool to check up on a seller and if you want more just inquire of the seller to give you some references. Most of the glow engines I bought on RCU were used. I usually buy my gas engines new because the prices of used gas engines are so dang close to the new that it is better to buy new.



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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/10/2012 1:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Seems to me it's the relatively cheap price of gas and small gas engines that's driving down the price of used, mid-large nitro engines. You can get an OS 160 right now for $150! And it's a great engine! (In fact, my OS 160 isn't even bad on fuel - not sure I even understand that.)

Also, most sellers on RCU accept Paypal, which makes payment quick and easy. (this sounds like an ad for RCU...)

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/10/2012 10:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		cool. next time im in the market for another engine, Ill go that route. Has anyone had any experience with gas four strokes, or are they too new? You dont hardly ever see them.

Since I haven't ever taken my newest revolver out of the box, im actually thinking of selling it and using my DLE20 to power this. www.troybuiltmodels.com/items/GWMX2-030V3BAF.html

It is easily hovered and 3D' with a 26cc engine. Since its hardly any heavier than the Revovler and has more wing area, I dont see the DLE20 having any problem sport flying this plane. I obviously love the Revovler, but Ive really been wanting one of these, and since I lost two revolvers I cant afford to build the Rev and then also get a MX2, plus the engine, servos, battery etc. But I can use everything that Ive got for the Rev in the MX2.

What do you guys think?

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/11/2012 4:11 AM   
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frankeldan, what level imac did you start at and what plane did you use? capt

So .. I started in basic class. Its alot of fun and its all basic rolls and loops , immelman,sharkstooth, etc.. We all do these everytime we fly. Its just putting them all together in a precise format.  I used my 33% edge with a dle 111 and 27/10 prop. I think if anyone wants to try basic, the revolver would work just fine. It tracks like an arrow and no 3d manuvers are required.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/11/2012 4:35 AM   
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Sport flying, OK, but the MX2/30cc is a bigger, draggier airframe, so its perfomance will be ok but hot spirited.
Not starting a brand war but I think you will find the quality of the build of GW not up to the standard of GP, AW, or the better ARF builders.
OTOH, it is your money, so make your choice and go for it.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/11/2012 4:49 AM   
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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/11/2012 6:01 AM   
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frankeldan, what level imac did you start at and what plane did you use? capt

So .. I started in basic class. Its alot of fun and its all basic rolls and loops , immelman,sharkstooth, etc.. We all do these everytime we fly. Its just putting them all together in a precise format.  I used my 33% edge with a dle 111 and 27/10 prop. I think if anyone wants to try basic, the revolver would work just fine. It tracks like an arrow and no 3d manuvers are required.

Dan


It seems that the Revolver being a solid and smooth flying plane, would indeed be a good imac plane. But wouldn't not be legal since it is not modeled after a full scale airplane. Such as an Extra or Edge.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/11/2012 6:16 AM   
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Sport flying, OK, but the MX2/30cc is a bigger, draggier airframe, so its perfomance will be ok but hot spirited.
Not starting a brand war but I think you will find the quality of the build of GW not up to the standard of GP, AW, or the better ARF builders.
OTOH, it is your money, so make your choice and go for it.

Bill



The local hobby shop guy said the same thing about goldwing. However all the video reviews as well as the flying videos indicate that their planes are of good quality. And as I have mentioned before, my friend has a 50cc size Goldwing Raven, and its a very nice plane.

Can you give me some insight as to why the GW company has gotten a reputation for being of lesser quality than that of even GP? I can see it possibly being lesser than AW and H9. GP obviously makes nice planes, but they seem to me to be the "best bang for the buck" planes. Seems like they use the cheapest method of building the planes, but at the same time building them as well as possible with the inexpensive components. Kind of like how the hardware is really basic and the wings are foam core sheeted on the Rev. But they also use nice designs. Such as the internal aileron servo boxes to hide the servos and give it a nice clean look, as well as removing parasitic drag.

Thanks for the help,
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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/11/2012 9:14 AM   
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There is another forum Flying GiXXXX  that has a long thread about a guy who built and flew  a  30 cc 73 inch Goldwing - DLE 30.  He flies a reasonable amount of 3D.  Read the story in the build thread about his experiences.  In particular , why it is now in the workshop.    Search for  30cc 73" MX2 Build Thread, that should find it.


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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/11/2012 12:04 PM   
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Sport flying, OK, but the MX2/30cc is a bigger, draggier airframe, so its perfomance will be ok but hot spirited.
Not starting a brand war but I think you will find the quality of the build of GW not up to the standard of GP, AW, or the better ARF builders.
OTOH, it is your money, so make your choice and go for it.

Bill



The local hobby shop guy said the same thing about goldwing. However all the video reviews as well as the flying videos indicate that their planes are of good quality. And as I have mentioned before, my friend has a 50cc size Goldwing Raven, and its a very nice plane.

Can you give me some insight as to why the GW company has gotten a reputation for being of lesser quality than that of even GP? I can see it possibly being lesser than AW and H9. GP obviously makes nice planes, but they seem to me to be the ''best bang for the buck'' planes. Seems like they use the cheapest method of building the planes, but at the same time building them as well as possible with the inexpensive components. Kind of like how the hardware is really basic and the wings are foam core sheeted on the Rev. But they also use nice designs. Such as the internal aileron servo boxes to hide the servos and give it a nice clean look, as well as removing parasitic drag.

Thanks for the help,
Jeremy




The V3 series of GW planes are decent bang for the buck. They come with carbon fiber and much like any ARF you need to be reasonably sensible and checking things over. I have the GW 300L V3 and it is not bad at all for the money. The hinges are a tad small for my liking, but not a big deal to put the Robarts in.

The hinges are pre-drilled but not glued so that makes it easy for me to upgrade. I am not implying the factory hinges won't do for my style of flying but I may choose to upgrade them. The plane is built solid, has great covering, good hardware and looks like the internal build design is good. For a 100 to 150 less than what I could have paid for a competitor's plane I am not complaining at all.

Granted there are things to be re-enforced, but think about it most people that have the Revolver have replaced the landing gear, re-enforced the LG area, re-enforced the engine box, re-glued the aileron servo compartments, some had mis-aligned stab hinge slots, mis-aligned wing dowel holes, etc. Certainly should compare these things as they are weaknesses. I have not bought many ARFs that I have not had to do something because there was a weakness somewhere.

To date most of my ARFs have been really decent except one and that was the Precision Hobby Products Edge 540T 26-30cc model. It was the worse workmanship of any plane I have ever purchased. It looked like kids threw it together. The thing is the internal design is very good and they could have had a really nice product had they invested a bit more time in it. Unless I get some free or almost free deal with PHP, I would never buy another one from them so that plane has cost them some business from me.

I will state this, for an approximately 200.00 dollar plane, the Rev 70 is certainly a winner and one of the smoothest of birds at the field! My opinion about this thread's popularity is that I think it is primarily due to the Revolver. Not many would not be pleased with the plane. It can be setup a number of ways and even flown in quite a bit of styles. Although not an outright 3D bird, it can certainly cross the boundary some.

OK, now when is that 30cc and 50cc version coming out?

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/11/2012 1:29 PM   
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Ironically, I also picked up a PHP (50cc Extra 260) from someone in my club for not much money - NIB.
Poor hardware, poor design, the wing antirotation index holes were not aligned, there was no structure inside to mount batteries, fuel tank, radio, etc etc etc
After much work on my part, it should be a pretty nice flying plane, but you are absolutely correct the workmanship and design are way below standard. Had I been a novice builder, there is no way it would have worked out at all.

My experience with AW is top notch all the way for $$. My experience with GP is generally high quality design and workmanship with good value (with some notable issues detailed on this tread for the R70).

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/11/2012 2:44 PM   
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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/11/2012 3:13 PM   
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So .. I started in basic class. Its alot of fun and its all basic rolls and loops , immelman,sharkstooth, etc.. We all do these everytime we fly. Its just putting them all together in a precise format.  I used my 33% edge with a dle 111 and 27/10 prop. I think if anyone wants to try basic, the revolver would work just fine. It tracks like an arrow and no 3d manuvers are required.

Dan


It seems that the Revolver being a solid and smooth flying plane, would indeed be a good imac plane. But wouldn't not be legal since it is not modeled after a full scale airplane. Such as an Extra or Edge.

Thanks,
Jeremy


Totally legal in the basic class. You get points taken off if your plane doesnt have a scale cockpit.. Needs a pilot figure and a dashboard.
The only advantage of a larger scale type plane such as the edge,yak,extra is that they can fly at very low speeds ,thus giving you more time and grace to do your manuvers. I say if a imac event is in your area, pack up the 70 rev, get some friends to come along and have a fun day of it. Nothing gets your blood pumping like a competition.


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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/11/2012 3:15 PM   
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Ironically, I also picked up a PHP (50cc Extra 260) from someone in my club for not much money - NIB.
Poor hardware, poor design, the wing antirotation index holes were not aligned, there was no structure inside to mount batteries, fuel tank, radio, etc etc etc
After much work on my part, it should be a pretty nice flying plane, but you are absolutely correct the workmanship and design are way below standard. Had I been a novice builder, there is no way it would have worked out at all.

My experience with AW is top notch all the way for $$. My experience with GP is generally high quality design and workmanship with good value (with some notable issues detailed on this tread for the R70).


Wow...the 50cc PHP was bad as well? I was just thinking maybe I drawed the short straw on the 26-30cc model that I bought. Thanks for the info - much appreciated. You would probably not believe all the issues I had with the one I bought.

Just an example the alignment pieces on the wings were broken and had to be re-glued Not one piece of hardware would work. You could tell they just threw some misc. hardware in a plastic bag and threw it in the box. The wing tube inserts were paper thin and even tore. The fuel tank was a tiny glow plane fuel tank! I don't think there was one hole drilled straight on the whole plane!

After working with the plane after a while it became more humorous to me at just how sorry the workmanship was. All you could do was laugh or you would just get seriously angry and cause yourself agony. If I had to buy the PHP plane at a swap meet I would be hard pressed to pay 50 or maybe 100 dollars for it max.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 5/11/2012 9:10 PM   
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There is another forum Flying GiXXXX  that has a long thread about a guy who built and flew  a  30 cc 73 inch Goldwing - DLE 30.  He flies a reasonable amount of 3D.  Read the story in the build thread about his experiences.  In particular , why it is now in the workshop.    Search for  30cc 73" MX2 Build Thread, that should find it.


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I feel stupid saying this, but I can't find a search bar or button in the build threads. I went through a few pages looking for it, but no luck.

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