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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/28/2012 10:16 PM   
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Sorry to see the pictures of your Large Revolver!! When they die, they go out in a bang. Get back in the air soon!! Is your engine okay??
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Engine seems Ok. I will give a run in a day or so.

New kit alomst finished , control throws and balance yet to do.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/28/2012 10:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		.... and silly me first learning how to land with a Gentle Lady glider. After many lousy landings I finally had the perfect approach or so I thought. I was so amazed at myself that I was just watching the plane float in, but not where it was going. Big grin on my face until the plane hit a bicycle parking setup. The fuse went clean right through the uprights but ripped the wing off in a nasty way.

Thanks for the servo ideas guys. I'll take a peek at the Savox's at AMain Hobbies. Sounds like my 645's might not be too bad after all. One friend said he didn't think the 645's would center good enough to be used on the elevator and that I'd need a digital. I don't fly pattern or IMAC though.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/28/2012 10:40 PM   
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think i have decided on these. great price plus digitals http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items/HD-8309TG.html


I run some of those on my larger planes and they are sick fast on 6 volts. If you are not used to a fast servo use caution One thing is for sure if you use them on ailerons you can get a quick roll out of plane. I fly several planes but one plane I have those on ailerons probably has about 50 flights on it now and no issues so far.

I run Power HD on a lot of my planes along with Hitec and a few JRs. The Power HDs have performed flawlessly and exceeded my expectations for the price range. I run the Power HD 4188s, 9150s, 7150s, 9001s, 8309s, 090Ms, and I think I have some 8307s too.

My Hitecs have performed well also, mostly run the Hitec one on the rudders - I think the model is 7955 or something like that. I cannot remember all the model numbers right now. For the money they do not perform or last any better than the Power HDs. I do have some DS120M Power HDs that have been run in the ground before I got them, but I don't use those on anything as there were some issues as some have posted. I did not want to take a chance with them.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/29/2012 1:59 AM   
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ahicks - you crashing your 20cc Profile sounds like me and my Rev59's - I keep crashing then and re-building them. One of these days I'll know what the heck I'm doing...



Screwing around, low speed (high alpha), inverted, over the far side of the field. Far side kind of drops off with a lot of scrub - edge of the woods stuff? Well the stupid thing ran out of gas at a really bad time. Normally that's not too big a deal, but over there I spent way too much time in the "what the H**L, how am I gonna get out of this?" mode. I dove for airspeed and rolled right side up just in time to hit a tree. Man, do I hate that noise!! ... crap! If I had rolled just 90 degrees and turned towards me I'd have been fine. This 3D learning is fun, but it sure can be frustrating!

So I used that as an excuse to pick up my first electric. A 43" EPP foam profile (1100mm Yak 55 by Tech One). Second time out with that earlier this week, at a park about a block away from me, and I found ANOTHER tree!! Hit that at a pretty good clip flying well after sunset (STUPID!). This time had to climb a little for it (all 6'2"/300lbs/62 years old me!) - BUT - easy tree and it was retrieved with NO damage. Not a dent. Still sorting this thing out (travels, dual rates, expo, etc.) and so far, the biggest thing to get used to is the complete lack of any momentum! It's just less than 2lbs. all up. For instance when you flair expecting it to coast a little? It doesn't. It'll just stop about 5" off the ground. That's cost me a couple props, but getting better at anticipating that. High alpha stuff, KE stuff, already starting to feel right at home. Slow and close in easier to get used to than I thought. 3 times out with it, not even all done sorting it out, and I can see where this thing's gonna hook me already. Great flying and CHEAP! The airframe itself was like 51.00, and if hitting that tree is any indication, it's SUPER durable!

Not planning on leaving gas any time soon, but the brave stuff that's been getting closer and closer to ground level lately, will be well rehearsed with something like this electric before I try it with gas again.

Leading edges and forward ribs pretty well trashed in both wings of the Fusion. I think Santa might be bringing me a Mojo 65? ;^)

Pretty convinced I'll never really know what I'm doing, but having a grand time anyway!

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/29/2012 3:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ahicks, I recently started flying a 48" EPP foam Edge, with similar results. Flies great and is perfect for getting used to flying under adverse attitude. But like you, I am still learning the landing routine. After 8 or 9 flights I have had to reinstall the gear 3 or 4 times after some unexpectedly abrupt landings, having not kept the the prop spinning on flair.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/29/2012 4:58 PM   
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Picked up my Revolver yesterday. It was either going to be the new Revolver 55cc, or the .60 size, but I settled on the .60 size.

I'm currently using an O.S. 1.20AX in both my 70" Hangar 9 Ultra Stik and my Hangar 9 Pulse 125. The 1.20 turned out to be a great engine combination for both of these planes. I also had to beef up the firewall on both planes to handle the extra torque, and do some other strenghtening.

The Ultra Stik and Pulse 125 are just about the same weight and size as the .60 size Revolver, so I'm hoping the 1.20 will work out equally as well in the Revolver.

The pics are of my Pulse 125 with the 1.20.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/29/2012 5:19 PM   
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I had exactly that engine in my R70#1; i think you will find it a great combination, with spirited performance.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/29/2012 5:54 PM   
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I flew my Rev 70 \ OS 120 4s before work this morning (getting cold here in NY - thank goodness for my Raydiowarm). Great combination - good speed and vertical. I'd imagine the 120 AX 2s will be even faster.

I DO love the way this plane flies. I also enjoy when my latest move - the ultra-slow speed, very low (3-4') inverted pass impresses onlookers (the only onlookers I had this morning were geese)). This plane is SO stable, upright and inverted.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/29/2012 7:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Microdon2, what is your Raydiowarm? Sounds comfy in cold weather..... I might need that here in the NW.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/29/2012 9:41 PM   
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I had exactly that engine in my R70#1; i think you will find it a great combination, with spirited performance.


I haven't had a bad O.S. glow engine yet ! Especially my two 1.20AX's. Very easy to start and very reliable. I'd have to look at my log books, but I believe I have a total of over 200 flights each on both my 1.20AX equipped Ultra Stik and Pulse 125. They seem to run better each time I fire them up.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/29/2012 10:39 PM   
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I had exactly that engine in my R70#1; i think you will find it a great combination, with spirited performance.


I haven't had a bad O.S. glow engine yet ! Especially my two 1.20AX's. Very easy to start and very reliable. I'd have to look at my log books, but I believe I have a total of over 200 flights each on both my 1.20AX equipped Ultra Stik and Pulse 125. They seem to run better each time I fire them up.

Joe M.

He Joe M.
I found out the older the OS engine is, the better they run!!! I just change the front and rear bearing on my OS 91 and 1.20 four stroke, ( they did not need to be re-place ), but I did it anyway!!

Ernie Misner,
I have one of those cover and they are good in cold weather. It's a cover that fit over your tx and hand to try to keep your finger warm. You can always find them on eBay. That where I found mine!!

microden,
The next time you go flying with your Raydiowarm, take one of the pocket hand warmer and place it inside the Raydiowarm and your hand will be nice and warm!!!

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/29/2012 11:03 PM   
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Joe -

(getting cold here in NY - thank goodness for my Raydiowarm). .



Speaking of cold, a number of club members braved some 25-30 degree morning temps in the past two weeks. A few of the engines simply failed to fire up. It has to do with the glow fuel not being easily combustable when cylinder head temps are below 30 degrees.

We are fortunate to have electricity at our club field, so the next day two of us brought along heat guns. Holding the heat gun about 3-4 inches above the aluminum cylinder head, it would warm up the head to about 90-100 degrees in about 30 seconds. Very easy starts now.

Radiowarm ? I'm one of the people that can't have anything on my hands or fingers when flying. Simply just can't used to it. Consequently, my fingers start to turn blue and go numb after a few flights.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/29/2012 11:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ernie - Some links to the Raydiowarm. Looks to be UK based (I've owned mine for a few years and I can't remember where I ordered it from). But it was about $75 US (or 49 Quid). I love it. It keeps the wind out and some heat in, though I do still wear light fingerless gloves, and put on other gloves over that when I'm working on the plane. My fingers sometimes still start to get cold after 6-8 mins, but it's manageable (can still feel them and control the plane), and that's about as long as my flights are, anyway. I could not do winter flying without my Raydiowarm.

http://www.raydiowarm.com/new_mitts.htm

http://www.revmod.co.uk/Raydiowarm/

Sonny - good idea about the pocket warmers (I actually have some and forgot to put them in my field bag!) Right now I put my hands in my pants pockets to warm up, but the pocket warmers will definitely help on those colder, 15 deg days.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/29/2012 11:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, for you guys that have two R-70's, love them and think it may be over kill, I just finished my second one with the DLE-20 installation.
My first R-70 is running a Saito .91.

Have been sitting around thinking about my next project and guess what ? Perhaps more over kill, maybe a third Revolver ! Have been thinking about another R-70 with another DLE-20. Or an R-70 with an OS GT 22. Finally a R-59 with maybe an OS .75.

You ask, why another Revolver ? Well, just go back and read many of the postings here. Just about all of them state that it is a fun and enjoyable plane to fly. If so, then why not, right ?

Decisions, decisions, so many to make when you are retired and bored.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/29/2012 11:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Granpooba, I think you can still get the XYZ 20cc engine at Valley View RC for $179. This is a very introductory price and willl go up to $240 or so. I have a DLE and XYZ 20cc both. They are almost identical in every way but the parts are not interchangeable, slightly different. The XYZ comes with a genuine walbro carb, rcexel ignition, CM-6 plug, and even a 10mm spinner adaptor. You can have your choice of muffler orientation with it as well.

Thank you for the links to the Radiowarm's. Very nice of you!

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/30/2012 12:00 AM   
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Granpooba, I think you can still get the XYZ 20cc engine at Valley View RC for $179. This is a very introductory price and willl go up to $240 or so. I have a DLE and XYZ 20cc both. They are almost identical in every way but the parts are not interchangeable, slightly different. The XYZ comes with a genuine walbro carb, rcexel ignition, CM-6 plug, and even a 10mm spinner adaptor. You can have your choice of muffler orientation with it as well.

Thank you for the links to the Radiowarm's. Very nice of you!

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm .......... something more to think about .......... thanks ..........

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/30/2012 12:07 AM   
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I know what you mean about not liking anything on your hands. But I got used to the Raydiowam pretty quickly - you actually forget about it - don't even notice it when you're flying. One thing I didn't like was that the clear plastic "window" on top would droop down and rest on parts of your hands. That was a little distracting. So I made some "Raydiowarm standoffs" (one for each main radio - these are custom jobs!) They push the plastic 2 1/4 inches away from the transmitter face and off of your hands. Works great. ( I should probably patent this and sell it to Raydiowarm!) (pics attached)

I feel bad for guys who don't fly in the winter because of the cold. With things like skis for your plane, the Raydiowarm (there are other makes and models), insulated pants, hoods, and other winter gear, cold doesn't have to stop anyone from winter flying.

Granpooba - Welcome to the multi-Revolver-owner's club! If you haven't tried a Rev 59 yet I recommend them! They're HOT!

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/30/2012 12:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Call Valley View and talk to Tom, the owner. He will then switch the muffler for your needs at no extra cost.

More good Radiowarm info there.... and ain't this Revolver thread great? I learned more about servos, etc. here than anywhere else. I might have to get a Revolver for one of my engines.

Will the Revolver slow down and do any mild 3D like hovering if asked to?

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/30/2012 12:49 AM   
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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/30/2012 12:52 AM   
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Call Valley View and talk to Tom, the owner. He will then switch the muffler for your needs at no extra cost.

More good Radiowarm info there.... and ain't this Revolver thread great? I learned more about servos, etc. here than anywhere else. I might have to get a Revolver for one of my engines.

Will the Revolver slow down and do any mild 3D like hovering if asked to?



Put simply, this plane has the widest flight envelope of anything I've ever flown? I can't vouch for the hover, still suck at that, but slowing the plane down to attention getting speeds is easily done! It's also a blast on knife edge! Powered with a 20cc gas, there's plenty of power to do anything you'd ever want. Attention to travel trims, expo, CG, etc. really pays off with this plane. It's way more than what I expected when I first maidened it for sure!

It's a great first step up for stuff learned on a profile Ernie - without endangering any of your bigger stuff you might want to keep a little higher off the ground prior to getting to brave with them? I move back and forth frequently between the Revolver and a profile, each giving a reality check on the other?

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/30/2012 2:02 AM   
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Call Valley View and talk to Tom, the owner. He will then switch the muffler for your needs at no extra cost.

More good Radiowarm info there.... and ain't this Revolver thread great? I learned more about servos, etc. here than anywhere else. I might have to get a Revolver for one of my engines.

Will the Revolver slow down and do any mild 3D like hovering if asked to?



Put simply, this plane has the widest flight envelope of anything I've ever flown? I can't vouch for the hover, still suck at that, but slowing the plane down to attention getting speeds is easily done! It's also a blast on knife edge! Powered with a 20cc gas, there's plenty of power to do anything you'd ever want. Attention to travel trims, expo, CG, etc. really pays off with this plane. It's way more than what I expected when I first maidened it for sure!

It's a great first step up for stuff learned on a profile Ernie - without endangering any of your bigger stuff you might want to keep a little higher off the ground prior to getting to brave with them? I move back and forth frequently between the Revolver and a profile, each giving a reality check on the other?


I could hover mine, but not real well like some of my other planes. A lot of that has to do with balance, prop, and engine setup. For me, it was difficult to hover for very long and kept falling out. I am not very experienced with hovering, but I don't think the Rev is best suited for it - at least in my thoughts.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/30/2012 3:36 AM   
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RE: Larger Revolver - 11/30/2012 5:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Al, excellent 'Revolver Report', thanks so much; just what I was hoping to hear.... And isn't it a plus how pretty they are? Another great looking plane is the Horizon Katana 50. Someone said they put a 20cc on that and the recommended engine is a Saito 82...! It does have 800+ sq. inches though. BTW, the Katana 50 is on sale now, $50 off.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 12/1/2012 2:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, just bit the bullet and a Revolver-59 will be on my work bench shortly. This will by my third one as I already have two R-70's, but I could not resist the offers from Tower Hobbies.

Tower is presently offering FREE shipping on the Revolver and the OS AX .55
Tower has reduced the price of the OS down $30.00.
And finally by using one of Towers coupons, it took another $35.00 off of the package.

Free Shipping / $30.00 off of engine / $35.00 off of combo = $75.00 savings.

I would have to say, not bad.

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RE: Larger Revolver - 12/1/2012 2:32 PM   
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Well, just bit the bullet and a Revolver-59 will be on my work bench shortly. This will by my third one as I already have two R-70's, but I could not resist the offers from Tower Hobbies.

Tower is presently offering FREE shipping on the Revolver and the OS AX .55
Tower has reduced the price of the OS down $30.00.
And finally by using one of Towers coupons, it took another $35.00 off of the package.

Free Shipping / $30.00 off of engine / $35.00 off of combo = $75.00 savings.

I would have to say, not bad.


Keep in mind when you fly the Rev 59 that it is very spirited and has little in common with its big brother. It can be quite a handful in many aspects of flight. I learned that the hard way early on

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