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Name the plane - 11/4/2009 2:56 PM   
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RE: Name the plane - 11/4/2009 3:17 PM   
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RE: Name the plane - 11/4/2009 3:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was a little hard to find an unbuilt kit. I watched eb@y for years until one surfaced, then made duplicate parts from the kit to build this.

I had one when I was 11-12. Never got it to fly.

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RE: Name the plane - 11/4/2009 5:02 PM   
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RE: Name the plane - 11/4/2009 5:19 PM   
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RE: Name the plane - 11/4/2009 6:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can't name it, but that thing is so "old-school" ugly it's gorgeous! Me want to build one!
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RE: Name the plane - 11/4/2009 6:47 PM   
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RE: Name the plane - 11/4/2009 6:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		My "other" hobbies are woodworking and boatbuilding so I can handle a plane pretty well for shaping a solid wing, but it would make a pretty nifty traner with a simple built-up flat bottom wing for the novice builder/flyer. Is the fuse also a solid slab?  I'd build the fuselage similar to a hollow core door, downsize it a bit and hang a .15 on it. (I love those li'l beasties!) The front end certainly looks rugged and the upright engine promotes easy startups. The wheels are turning already!.
After someone guesses the pedigree of this thing, could you let us have the particulars?



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RE: Name the plane - 11/4/2009 7:03 PM   
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RE: Name the plane - 11/4/2009 9:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm certain Jim nailed it, as he has three of them. And he was classy enough not to say right off and spoil the fun.

It's a Guillows Trainer.

There were three sizes made: #1 for .049, #2 was .10-.15 and #3 was for .19-.36.

There are not plans so much as instructions for assembly, being marketed to juniors. What I have is in pretty sad shape, but I'll try to post something soon.

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Oh-And the reason I never got it to fly? It had a 'weekend' McCoy 35 in it.

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RE: Name the plane - 11/4/2009 10:12 PM   
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RE: Name the plane - 11/5/2009 2:10 AM   
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RE: Name the plane - 11/5/2009 2:13 AM   
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RE: Name the plane - 11/5/2009 2:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had the small one...baby bee .049
A friend has the middle one with an .09 Diesel...

At least they fly better than they look

grotto2...yours looks nice, finish wise, but...I think you know what I mean

Kind of a "utilitarian" design, huh!?

For a while, we had throttle on a Cox .049, and my nephew could get the small one to hover/fly laps at a crawling speed with the nose pointing about 85 degrees up from level...sometimes could get it to go backwards...
I think I still have parts of that one around here somewhere...


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RE: Name the plane - 11/5/2009 2:47 AM   
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I had the small one...baby bee .049
A friend has the middle one with an .09 Diesel...

At least they fly better than they look

grotto2...yours looks nice, finish wise, but...I think you know what I mean

Kind of a ''utilitarian'' design, huh!?


I understand completely. Marry a homely woman and dress her up nice.

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RE: Name the plane - 11/5/2009 3:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some figures on the #3. Span 35 in, chord 8 at fuse, 6 1/2 at tip (fixed flap),wing to nose tip 5 1/4, wing to front of stab 5 1/2, stab span 15 1/2, chord 5 tapering to 4, fuse 3/4 wide, 2 in high. Rudder 3 1/2 high. Such a trainer is easy to build and very sturdy. I'm recovering from some leg problems, and went out Sunday to fly for the first time since early June. Flew my #2 with McCoy 19 on 65 ft lines. Flew three fights and did not crash nor fall down.

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RE: Name the plane - 11/5/2009 3:51 PM   
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Can you tell us more about the specs for #2? I was going by memory on the displacements in the previous post, so I'm not certain about that, even. Wingspan, length of #2?

-Ron

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RE: Name the plane - 11/19/2009 1:35 AM   
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RE: Name the plane - 11/20/2009 2:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've owned three of the #2's and sold the last of these at a swap meet last winter. Got that one at a garage sale for a buck. It had a Fox 35 on it!! They had a preformed wing and fuselage made of very hard balsa and a preshaped engine crutch made of hard pine or some variety of hardwood. Flew mine on 52' .012" lines with an OS 15. They will loop and fly inverted if you are very careful.

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