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raptor 30 new to helis - 11/12/2009 11:10 PM   
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i got 15+years in plane.
im looking at buying my first glow heli.
raptor 30 with the pro .39
i got
eclips 7 hitec

what is every thing i need.
rx
rx batt
gyro
what servoes
is this it.

how does the throttel and pitch work on helies.

thank you

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RE: raptor 30 new to helis - 11/12/2009 11:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: yakglowfoamy

hello
i got 15+years in plane.
im looking at buying my first glow heli.
raptor 30 with the pro .39
i got
eclips 7 hitec

what is every thing i need.
rx
rx batt
gyro
what servoes
is this it.

how does the throttel and pitch work on helies.

thank you




WOW, this is a big question. First, find some heli help. It cost too much in parts to figure this out on your own. Dont buy a used heli, you will spend more time trying to set up someone else's crap pile they sold you.

get a head hold gyro gy401 Futaba, great gyro, too many $$$$ Walkera has a new gy08 80.00 great gyro.
get some 50 ounce servo's or even bigger, you can use them in your 50 sized heli later.

throttle and pitch cures set up for the 3 flight modes, this is where you need help by taking a class at the local hobby shop or joining a club, both will save you many head issues, no pun LOL

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RE: raptor 30 new to helis - 11/13/2009 12:33 AM   
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RE: raptor 30 new to helis - 11/13/2009 5:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think that your choice for a first helicopter is excellent. I started in nitro helicopters this summer, and a R-30 ARF with tt39 was my choice. I used a Futaba 401 gyro, an ACE DS0606 tail servo, Hitec 5625's for all other controls, a 2.4 RX, and a 2S A123 battery. Before my first flight, I spent a lot of time on a simulator and had someone check out my build and TX programming (including a test flight). It gave me a lot of confidence for my first flight just knowing that the helicopter was capable of flight as long as I had spent enough time on the simulator.

Fly safe, Glover

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RE: raptor 30 new to helis - 11/13/2009 1:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you're serious, consider the 50 to start out with.

Also, stick with the OS 37 engine if you go with a 30

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RE: raptor 30 new to helis - 11/13/2009 6:57 PM   
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unfortanely we dont have a club or anything like that hear.
iv flown a small eletric heli but had fixed pitch flow like crap but iv been told
the bigger the better they fly.

thanks for all your guys help

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RE: raptor 30 new to helis - 11/13/2009 6:59 PM   
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RE: raptor 30 new to helis - 1/2/2010 4:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		raptor 30 or 50 are good choices I have not had any trouble tunning my tt39 it runs great got about 20 flights on it. Me I flew airplanes for 4 years been doing helies for a couple of months started on a axe cpv3. Figuring out throttle and pitch curves are trickey mostly you have plus 10 minze 10 and you mix your throttle settings in with that its not that bad, you will get the hang of it eventually good luck rember to have alot of patience oh ya starting out you don't need much negative if any at all because if you get scared and pull the stick back it will slam into the ground and can break something the negative is mainly for 3d stuff.

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RE: raptor 30 new to helis - 1/2/2010 8:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		you might want at least -2deg of negative pitch in normal mode, so you can bring the heli down when it is windy. for starters +/- 11 deg pitch for iddle 1 (3d) is Ok, if you get better, +/- 12 deg pitch for more aggressive 3d.

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RE: raptor 30 new to helis - 1/3/2010 11:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi., Raptor 30 with a os32 is a grate one to choose, But you will need help. have a look at  RAPTOR TECHNIQUE This chap will help a lot and you can email him.



                                                      hope this helps    

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RE: raptor 30 new to helis - 1/5/2010 4:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		If your going to run low nitro fuel like 15 and 20% then the TT 39 should run pretty good.
If you wanting some power then get an OS37 or at least a 32H. You will be much happier in the long run!
You can always convert you 30 to a 50 later.
I would stick with the 30 for now because you can hover longer, 50's suck down more fuel!

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RE: raptor 30 new to helis - 1/24/2010 5:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you can afford to, go with a 50. The difference in crash costs between a 30 and 50 are negligible, as they are essentially the same heli, except with a longer tail boom and tail belt to accomodate the longer blades, the longer blades, a bigger motor, and different motor mounts. Initial purchase price will be a bit higher due to the longer blades and bigger engine, as well as needing better servos than a 30 would need. Since a 50 is a bit larger than a 30, it will be a bit more stable as well. If you can't afford the 50, a 30 will do just fine for training and sport flying. When you're ready for a 50, you can upgrade then.

Flight time will be a matter of personal preference. However, when first learning helis, you won't want long flights because your mind and nerves will need a break after a short period of time. As you get better and more used to flying a heli, you may want a slightly longer flight time. If you've ever intentionally (not by a problem with the airplane, just because you felt like landing and taking a break) landed a plane with 1/2 a tank or more of fuel left, a 50 should provide more than enough flight time.

If all you intend to do with helis is sport fly, then a 30 should suffice. However, if 3D is in the cards or you want a faster flying sport bird, a 50 would be a better choice, as you'll want one once you do make the break into 3D or fast forward flight. A 30 will feel more like a scale flyng Tiger Moth (after I broke into forward flight with my old Hirobo 30, I had a H9 Tango pass me by. He was stalling just trying to stick with me, and I thought that I was haulin' butt with it), slow and capable of aerobatics with a careful hand (or thumbs as the case may be ). A 50 would be more like a Decathlon, quick, agile, and easy to fly once you get used to using the left stick.

Either one will be fine. The Raptor line is a fine line of helicopters that you can't go wrong with.

Enjoy your transition to spinning your wings.

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RE: raptor 30 new to helis - 1/27/2010 5:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		A never ending debate with regard to 30 vs 50 and completely valid points can be made from both sides. Lots of folks ahve learned to fly on the Raptor 30 and lots of folks still enjoying flying the 30. Still.. most folks do wind up with a 50 sized heli due to the huge leap in power to weight.

I came into the heli's from about 30 yrs of plank experience. It seemed like eveyone was jumping on the rc heli bandwagon and I guess I ventured into the heli's just to see what all the fuss was about. When I learned that everyone is using heading hold gyros and thought "gee.. no wonder everyone is flying them.. they nerfed em down so you don't have to really learn how to fly them".

My logic was they had found a way to make heli flying easy, and I had 30 yrs worth of plank experience so I thought there woudl be nothing to this heli stuff. Completely wrong!!!!!!!! It was like trying to learn how to ride a unicycle while ballancing on top of a greased beach ball!

Your plank experience will help you in one respect.. you're familiar with the left/right being reversed when the model is pointed toward you. You'll quickly learn that with heli's not only does left/right get reversed on you, but forward backward as well!!.

I also found that there was a disadvantage to haveing so much plank time.... with a plank the tail is always following the nose of the airplane so it's pretty easy for the brain to determine the direction of flight. Taint so with a heli!!!!! Where the tail is in relation to the nose has absolutely nothing to do with which way the heli is actually going! That was my biggest hurdle!

Welcome to the madness man. Do lots of reading on these (and other forums like helifreak.com and runryder.com) and decide for yourself about the 30 vs 50 stuff. Once you decide, just go with it and you'll have a great time! I enjoy my 30 as much as my 50... just in a different way I guess.

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