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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/7/2010 9:53 PM   
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Vince, could you tell us the serial number of this engine?

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/7/2010 10:06 PM   
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Barry,

video of my k80e, with accel delay 40 and 97.
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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/7/2010 11:02 PM   
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hello Barry,
i have the 0209
bought new from australia at the end of 2009

what do you think ?

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/8/2010 8:52 AM   
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Fernando, in my opinion, the throttle response was surprisingly OK for the delay to be set at 97; it took a little more than 6 seconds to accelerate up to say 90%.

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/8/2010 8:57 AM   
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hello Barry,
i have the 0209
bought new from australia at the end of 2009

what do you think ?

cheers
Vince

Vince, thank you very much for bringing this to our attention, that was definitely a faulty pump, replacements have already been sent to Australia about two weeks ago from Taiwan and you should be getting it anytime soon.

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/8/2010 1:29 PM   
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hope it's that....it has caused some big flames out......hope i haven't destroyed anything
i had also a strange noise on the fuel selenoide.......i've charge this on the faulty pump......hope it's just that
was it an "old version" pump that i had ?
should i receive the new "trouble free" pump ?
should i invest on flight works pump, and other selenoids ?
if yes wich brand ?
i live in new caledonia, very small island lost in south pacific....so it's important for me to have good quality components

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/8/2010 10:39 PM   
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Vince, in case of a flame out on any turbine, make sure it goes into auto cool down mode. On a Gaspar Fadec system, just in case if it didn’t, you could manually cool down the turbine by doing the following:

1) trim down
2) push throttle stick forward a little at a time to actuate starter motor, until it reaches just under 100 degrees.
And not to worry, with the trim down, it won’t go back into the start mode.

On your solenoid(s), I am not sure what “strange noise” you are referring to, as they do make ticking sounds (sometimes fast and repetitive) when they are actuated.

I have also used an old Jetcat p-60 pump with no issues and don’t remember if any adjustment was needed to the ECU. I am sure Flightworks are good too, but your replacement should arrive onto your island anytime soon.

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/10/2010 7:11 PM   
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Enjoy my k-80e



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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/10/2010 9:48 PM   
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Hello Tony,

Didn't you have any problem with K80e of SPEEDLOW?
Here in Brazil, I already have 4 friends with the same problem.

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/10/2010 10:49 PM   
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I think it is worth to mention that Fernando´s is running the turbine at 4100 feet ASL in very hot and rainy (low pressure) summer days in Brazil. This kind of adjust is normal even at 3000 feet ASL (Curitiba) not only in the Kingtech, but in some models of other brands too.


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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/11/2010 4:00 AM   
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Hello Tony,

Didn't you have any problem with K80e of SPEEDLOW?
Here in Brazil, I already have 4 friends with the same problem.

Thanks

Fernando




Hi Fernando, Did you have the chance to investigate the parameter settings as Gaspar has suggested in his post #80.

Do your 4 friends live at same location, similar altitudes and which turbines are they operating?




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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/11/2010 5:17 AM   
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Does this engine require regular propane, the coleman green camping ones, or the propane/butane powermax cans? thanks

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/11/2010 7:16 AM   
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Kingtech K80E recommended "Start Gas" mix is Coleman PowerMax or equivalent Propane/Butane (60% propane + 40% butane).

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/11/2010 2:01 PM   
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Hi,

I already did the parameter settings as Gaspar has suggested and problem continue..
My 4 friends live at similiar altitudes, all with problem in kingtech, but others turbines happens problem too

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 2/11/2010 4:37 PM   
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The last time I did a density altitude of Fernando's location he was at roughly 6400'to 6900'. I don't believe anyone has tested the Kingtech engine in this density.
The engine runs quite well with the accel delay of 97 at this altitude, surprisingly good throttle response for such a high delay number. Perhaps, only a second or two more than the normal setting at MSL.

Having reviewed the numbers and engine performance, I dont think there is any issue running at his current settings.
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RE: Kingtech turbine - 3/7/2010 4:38 PM   
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Hi,

Encountered a problem with my K80. Hope someone can help.

The engine will not go to max RPM of 145,000. It will stay at ard 135-136,000 rpm. My settings are at the bottom of this post.

I had done learn RC again and again but it does not help.

Can someone kindly advise?

Thanks.

Isaac

My current parameters are:

Full power speed = 145,000
Idle speed = 45,000
Stop speed = 30,000
start/min temp = 100 deg C
Max temp = 800 deg C
Acceleration delay = 35
Deceleration delay 15
Stability delay = 100
pump limit = 1020

pump start point = Auto+2
pump start ramp = 006


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RE: Kingtech turbine - 3/8/2010 10:15 AM   
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Hi Isaac:

Besides some of the adverse conditions in Singapore (over 100F at 60 to 80%) could you please check your fuel filter and plumbing for possible restriction? Also what was the EGT and Pw at 135k?

I just spoke with the factory, they are also looking forward to hear from you to help you resolve the problem.

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 3/8/2010 8:44 PM   
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Isaac,
Can you please tell me what the Fuel Pump pulse width (PW) is at full throttle?
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RE: Kingtech turbine - 3/9/2010 5:29 AM   
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Thanks Barry and Todd for helping.

I will check and revert with the values.

Rgs,
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RE: Kingtech turbine - 3/14/2010 9:50 PM   
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Issue fixed... started the engine last saturday. It is reading 145,000+ now. A friend helped. what we did was set the engine up on a new model on my futaba Tx using default throttle ATV settings. Did a learn RC, started the engine and running parameters are

RPM 145,300
Temp 658 deg C
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RE: Kingtech turbine - 3/14/2010 10:11 PM   
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Great turbines. Glad you have it ironed out!!!

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 4/14/2010 12:40 PM   
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Hi ,
Did anyone tried using a kerostart on the K-80e ? i know that gaspar's ECU supports kerostart.

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 4/15/2010 1:44 AM   
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Ravivos, Is your ECU a Gaspar??

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RE: Kingtech turbine - 4/15/2010 3:28 AM   
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We tested the K-80E on kerostart and although I got it to work for a few starts, the plug is too far back in the chamber for reliable operation. Kingtech is working on a Kero version.
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