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Wings and verticals.... - 7/9/2003 7:16:48 AM   
Tall Paul



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Status: offline 		All flying wings need verticals... runs common knowledge..
I flew this ZAGI™ tonight.. called a Phantasm.. don't know who kitted it.
Mine began life as a electric, with a fuselage and SIG Wonder tail. Miserable failure.
Took out the e-power and threw it off the slope. Not much better.
Took off all the excess not-per-print stuff except the sheeting I'd added at first.. It now looks like the original.
And it FLIES! None of the annoying head-shaking of the typical ZAGI™.
Why is that?

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Wings and verticals.... - 7/9/2003 11:39:17 PM   
Ben Lanterman



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Status: offline 		1. For a wing with no vertical tail to go straight the differential drag with yaw has to be high due to planform/airfoil/sweep/whatever - it is a CDbeta term acting through the AC of each wing panel. Low drag airplanes would not have has much directional stability.

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2. Your eyes are going and you can't possibly tell the difference :-)

Pick the answer(s) that are applicable.


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Wings and verticals.... - 7/10/2003 12:08:09 AM   
Tall Paul



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Status: offline 		Bof'em.
I know I don't have verticals on that one..
I've flown a ZAGI™ Razor with one vertical.. on one tip. Time to try it without either vertical.
Wind willing, more exhaustive tests this afternoon..

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Wings and verticals.... - 7/10/2003 7:01:04 AM   
Tall Paul



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Status: offline 		Flew the Razor sans right, and then both verticals after flying the Phantasm.
At low speeds, any end/point can be in front! Not a good thing close to the slope. Both planes behave the same without verticals.
Going to try a single central vertical next.
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Formating with a regular ZAGI™ with the right removed...

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Re: Wings and verticals.... - 7/10/2003 11:24:15 PM   
probligo



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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tall Paul
All flying wings need verticals... runs common knowledge..
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Try telling that to the nurflugel boys.

There are at least two of these interest groups around - search nurflugel on your fav engine.

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Wings and verticals.... - 7/12/2003 5:37:52 AM   
Tall Paul



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Status: offline 		Here's the Phantasm with a central fin. Makes a big difference. It will fly slower before trying to swap ends....

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