CAD Preference personal poll  
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Tower Hobbies
Enter up to 4 keywords or Tower stock numbers
Logged in as Guest



Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
       

All Forums >> RC Airplanes >> Scratch Building, Aircraft Design, 3D/CAD >> CAD Preference personal poll
Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]

Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
CAD Preference personal poll - 7/30/2003 6:38:03 PM   
CoosBayLumber


 

Posts: 3047
Joined: 1/20/2002
From: San Bernardino Calif
Status: offline 		Oh, am familiar with Intellicad ever since the Visio Beta version was introduced to us all at the Orange County Autocad Users group years ago. It was totally aimed at the Civil engineering and architectural market. I have 98 loaded up on one computer here.

The problem with Intellicad is not the workup, but the drivers. I have done work in it, then taken the results to third party places. Plotting, laser cutting, CNC conversion all seem to take minutes longer to get done. The raw drivers do not have the compression and compilation features as built into Autocad. You get all the work, nothing is omitted, but when line for line is layed out, it goes here, then there, then back to here again. If you are only working with a raster image ploter, this is no problem. However, before handing off any vector work done in Intellicad, it gets filtered through Autocad, and then a third party plot compiler. Not only is the plot file size smaller, but you can actually see a more "arranged" repeat of the linework under the laser beam or the end mill. The compilers will not recognize any HP-GL plot language coming from Intellicad, nor will they recognize the all too famous DXF files. I am still trying to locate a version of some software to which was sold locally and I had a direct involvement in the development of back about 1982. It had total control over all lines within the files, plotted them in the direction and order you specified. It worked off of TXT files similar to G-code, and thus was compact and fast.

I besides the two noted, I have TurboCAD, KeyCAD, some $3 cheap-CAD, graphics, conversion and other software loaded up. And thus, you need more than one software to get the job done often.


Wm.

(in reply to mikejhs82-RCU)
       Post #: 26

CAD Preference personal poll - 7/30/2003 7:51:45 PM   
Highflight-RCU


 

Posts: 597
Joined: 2/28/2003
From: Houston, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Intell 98 is definitely an older version so I'd suggest you get the ver. 4PE+ and try it again.

Besides, you're still referring to "professional" uses for CAD and not the typical use that most modelers would use if for.
This is a fun discussion, but I'm trying to keep it within the context of typical modelers rather than CAD power users.

Highflight

(in reply to mikejhs82-RCU)
       Post #: 27

CAD Preference personal poll - 7/31/2003 5:27:29 AM   
CoosBayLumber


 

Posts: 3047
Joined: 1/20/2002
From: San Bernardino Calif
Status: offline 		Well, I was about to pass over Intellicad a few years ago, and get something different when it came on sale at local Comp-USA for $35. However, in reading across the web, it was mentioned that an intisement of the WinLine driver was included. The WinLine driver permits you to run pen plotters (to which I have a couple) instead of only the more modern Inkjets. What they did not tell you was it only worked with certain specific plotters, with certain ROM packs inside. One of mine was on the list, but it did not connect. Just before Visio sold off the whole system to Microsoft, they discontinued including the Winline driver too. Was too much boasting is my thought.

There is a plotter technitian near here and I later got the WinLine driver to work with yet one of the other plotters. I still preferr to use the Autocad ADI drivers, as they are more flexible as to solids and hatching. The WinLine would not accept solids nor hatching.

The three different current versions of Intellicad do not have the WinLine driver inside now. You have to purchase it separately for about $200. Intellicad does have "just the features" to which I use most often. Then, after Visio went out of business, they included the digitizer tablet drivers which were standard in Autocad since R-10.



Wm.

(in reply to mikejhs82-RCU)
       Post #: 28

CAD - 8/1/2003 3:26:43 AM   
Tuga,Tuga


 

Posts: 2
Joined: 10/1/2002
From: AveiroAveiro, PORTUGAL
Status: offline 		Hello.

I use AutoCAD.
Stills being a powerfull tool.
With programming tools we can do almost everything.

_____________________________

Marcelino Tomás
ct1civ@mail.telepac.pt

(in reply to mikejhs82-RCU)
       Post #: 29

CAD Preference personal poll - 8/1/2003 2:11:56 PM   
Spaced


 

Posts: 32
Joined: 7/28/2003
From: OZ
Status: offline 		Hey guys, new to the forum and just though Id add my 2 cents.
After trying to learn autocad, turbo cad, and about 4 others, I started using Rhino. At the risk of becoming an outcast on my first post, Im probably a bit younger than you guys, and for me modeling in 3d is the only way. I used to draw everything out on paper, and would always start with a perspetive view. Using a 3d program makes it alot easier for me to get the initial design done more quickly. One other benefit ive found is that everything fits first go, plus gives you the chance to see how things move.
As far as the transfering for CNC and laser cutting, I make all my stuff so I cant comment on that.
The best thing I found is that you can use autocad keyboard prompts, or just use the mouse.
For anyone interested you can download a free demo of Rhino and have a play. BTW the tutorial is excellent.

(in reply to mikejhs82-RCU)
       Post #: 30

CAD Preference personal poll - 8/2/2003 7:31:09 AM   
CoosBayLumber


 

Posts: 3047
Joined: 1/20/2002
From: San Bernardino Calif
Status: offline 		I would be interested to know as to what plotters or plotter languages Rhino will handle? HP-GL, HP-GL2, PCI, CCGL, PS2, or what? They tell you of what hardware requirements are, but these are only computer related. Will Rhino also take a graphics tablet?

Wm.

(in reply to mikejhs82-RCU)
       Post #: 31

CAD Preference personal poll - 8/2/2003 8:05:42 AM   
aloof


 

Posts: 18
Joined: 8/2/2003
From: Arcata, CA, USA
Status: offline 		I'm with Spaced on this one. I've been using Rhino for about 3 years now off and on.

Here's my buck-o-2: Although I haven't gotten to the point of trying it out with a plotter, but, forgive my ignorance, wouldn't the OS driver for the plotter take care of plotter languages? Rhino (or ACAD, or TurboCAD, et al) shouldn't care what "printer" it's sending to,...that's the job of the driver: to tanslate what the OS wants to the printer/plotter.

Again, I really don't mean to sound argumentative, but again, it's not up to Rhino whether or not it "takes a graphics tablet", is it?....if a tablet talks PS/2 (or USB), then the OS will still point where the cursor goes and clicks, right?

I'm totally open to corrections in my thinking, so please feel free to let me know!

(in reply to mikejhs82-RCU)
       Post #: 32

CAD Preference personal poll - 8/5/2003 10:07:50 PM   
LaserTank


 

Posts: 33
Joined: 4/20/2003
From: Haltom City, TX, USA
Status: offline 		I think the question is, are you designing or working from plans?
Working from plans, Corel is accurate enough and fast. Designing you may need to have perfection on the inside but it still need only need be as tolerant as the cutter. I can't snad the outside as accurate as the inside may be. I've sat down and designed a model fuselage, cut it, and boned up and sheeted in 4 hrs. It's a kit now. I've taken longer on my latest project because it is a strip plank job with complex curves. On and off for 4 days, I now have a nice plug to start with on a 65" skymaster. I do it all with CorelDraw 8 and only spent $25 on the software on ebay. I've been able to whip out plans for control line flyers in 2-3 hrs. Parts from the plan were ready to cut when I was done drawing. I think it matters what your familiar with and how you think when working on a computer. Many a model has been built and flown from plans as inaccurate as they come. I like to build and make it easy to do so and I can do it quicker with CorelDraw. It also runs faster on the laser.

Kyle

(in reply to mikejhs82-RCU)
       Post #: 33

Page:   <<   < prev  1 [2]
All Forums >> RC Airplanes >> Scratch Building, Aircraft Design, 3D/CAD >> CAD Preference personal poll
Page: <<   < prev  1 [2]





Jump to:


Google 



Search | Marketplace | Event Calendar | Local Clubs | Magazine | Product Ratings | New Products | Discussion Forums

Photo Gallery | Member Video Posts | RCU Video Gallery | Instructor Search | Field|Track|Marina Search

Advertisers | Hobby Vendor Resources | Rate Manufacturers | Sign In/Sign Up

SITE MAP!   : :   FORUM RULES

© 2001 - 2007 24-7 RC, LLC, all rights reserved.

Charities we support that also need your help
Yorkie Rescue | Humane Society | ASPCA | Crohn's-Colitis America

Kaango.com Classifieds

0.938RCU5