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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/8/2012 11:15 PM   
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Phone number - 1-234 567 89

And from their Chinese writing:


If you need to contact us can be in the following ways:

Online Service
Click Home Online Customer Service link, and questions to customer service professionals.

E-mail
You can also contact us via e-mail.

Live Hotline
Contact us directly by phone.

Letter
If necessary, you can get in touch with us by letter.

Shame there is not actual details there.

anyone want to send them their credit card details and ask for warranty backup?

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/8/2012 11:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		going back and looking at the link,pk posted,,it appears the new version case is being implemented ,,i hope he ,,,tommy took jody s advise  regarding that  particular case ,,, i still did not have any case issues ,nor did i hear of anyone having an issue,,maybe it was his supplier for the old style that dried up. this is the spare case i have .

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/8/2012 11:36 PM   
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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/9/2012 11:31 AM   
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makes you wonder who is realy selling the engine.

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/10/2012 12:18 AM   
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I have not once heard anyone say thre is anything wrong with how the MT 70 performs If, When and While it is running.

The problems with them were 100% associated with sloppy factory / supply chain practices. Changing a crankcase, or any other part of the enngine for that matter, will not change those practices.

The real question is - CAN Tomy change those things? There are so very many out there who have experienced the negative answer to that in the past. IF Tomy changes those practices, He will have a winner on his hands. But we said that in the past with his 62, his 57, his 35 single and his 70 twin.

Tomy - you know what is required.

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/10/2012 1:16 AM   
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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/10/2012 1:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		well mr... we told you so,,, if yoiu would have replied to my pm...you might have the part youre looking for on the way,,,the first person who wants it gets it,, of course  it does have value for parts or experimentation,so its not gong to be a give away... ,,aslso to aussiesteve,, you and i and several others in other threads ,even on other sites ,have told, suggested ,,and some even kinda demanded tommy follow ,,through and has been told in 20 different ways over and over,,,,i can only speculate,,but  he has shown ,,his way  of conducting buisness ,has failed time and time again,,, if  anyone needs the parts i have on hand,,i wont reply to any pm,s tonight ,,im heading out the door as i speak.
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I guess I lived and learned! I cannot understand why he would blow people off with the new MT-76 coming out. It looks just like the latest case and bottom-end with the new cylinders....I just want a 4 bolt prop hub....



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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/10/2012 3:26 AM   
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I don't understand why this brand is even talked about anymore. What most if not all of you don't seem to understand is that there is NO MT engine manufactory, there never has been. MT engines is Tomy Shen, that's all, one person. He buys surplus wholesale scooter parts, contracts with job shops to make odds and ends, contracts assembly labor with XYZ or the local elementary school whichever is cheaper. Everyone is paid by the piece so parts count is what's important not whether it runs or not. Tomy almost never sees the finished product before it's shipped to the customer, he definitely never sees it run before it's shipped to the customer.

When Tomy doesn't pay his suppliers or labor, they cut him off so he can't buy the parts to build engines anymore. Guess what happens then....NEW CRANKCASE, NEW CRANKSHAFT, NEW ENGINE MODEL, new suppliers, incompatible parts with the older models, can't get the parts for the older models because they "don't make them anymore" which is partly true because they won't make them anymore for Tomy because he owes them money.

 

 

 

New MT76 twin, laughable. It's a shame, wish it weren't so, but it's true.



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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/10/2012 5:30 AM   
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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/10/2012 9:59 AM   
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Unfortunately that is 100% correct and even worse, MT is not the only brand that applies to.

At least by discussing a defunct MT, we aren't helping the ratings of SmallSpool and RickyDriveler trying to bump their ratings up.

CapitalB - don't take it to heart - You'll work it out eventually.

I have a question though

I have tried many oils in lots of different engines. Which one do you thing works best in an MT 70 and do we need to change oils if we switch from Futaba to JR servos for the throttle?

I think the servo throttle speed must play a part somehow as to which oil works best - but maybe not. Let me know your thoughts.

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/10/2012 11:35 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Yeah Steve some USED chain oil should be the best you can find, make sure it has some sand and a few wood chips in it also for the best results.

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/10/2012 1:33 PM   
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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/10/2012 4:37 PM   
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Yeah Steve some USED chain oil should be the best you can find, make sure it has some sand and a few wood chips in it also for the best results.

Yes I find this works best to speed up the break in period.

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/10/2012 5:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		i usually crash well before the break in,period us up,,,,so i never have to worry about ,,changing oil or fuel usually a gallon lasts two years.,also a little  after shave in my fuel mix. makes my planes more manly...maybe this is why im not havingg problems..

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/10/2012 6:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now this is getting, just plain..SILLY Baby-oil at 600-1... that works for a good top-end and transition!

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/10/2012 11:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		The only reason this may seem silly is because

A I have got a BBQ sauce recipe that is really good.
B I have found a local supplier of some ready made sauces
C I have a new Pit on its way
D MT Engines ARE silly. They were so very close with some products but the need for a quick dollar regardless of the consequences made them really BAD news.

Next question - (And Blame CapitalB for this one)

If Coconut oil comes from coconuts, Olive oil come from olives, sunflower oil comes from sunflowers, peanut oil comes fom peanuts etc (ok - you get the drift now) WHERE DO THEY SOURCE THE BABIES TO MAKE BABY OIL?

I guess it is a huge industry in some 3rd world country - perhaps a little along the lines of the mares who are "farmed" for their urine to make some drugs. Could be in "interesting" job being one of the guys working in the baby factories I guess.

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/11/2012 12:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		i guess a good analogy is do your research,,and theres plenty within this  thread when it comes to the evolution and demise of mtengines , i had to become educated on this subject,,look at some of my glowing comments ,that i prematurely made ,,,,well not all premature,,such as looks  and price,power when right,,,,even if,,i was one of the ,,,lucky ones that got a trouble free engine,,,theres no reason ,not to believe what the other guys  posting,wasnt valid especially former dealers,,so if i really wanted to know where baby oil came from,,id probably check with the petroleum industry ,,then listen to the crap the  third world  supplier tells you when you need it    $cheap$,,

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/11/2012 12:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		aussiesteve ,YOU are a funny man! O.K, only because you started it, if you can get "Tennis-elbow", then you must be able to get "Golf-Balls".....Sorry, but I am a recovering M-T owner.

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/11/2012 12:34 AM   
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For Golf Balls - it could be this - get your GP to check it out

http://www.shavemyface.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15187&sid=e3b89f4c541b47a65fd2fa24ba07e6bc

You never truly recover from being an MT owner. (That applies to a few other brands too). Once you have gotten one, you effectively have a "Halux valgus" on the wallet while you try to sort it out. Best way to fix that is with halux valgectomy - usually towards the junk pile.

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/11/2012 1:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		you can take it for what it's worth but u guess you still can get the mt 70cc twin from here!!!  http://www.sdshobby.net/mld70-70cc-twin-cylinder-gas-engine-p-3827.html

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/11/2012 1:28 AM   
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you can take it for what it's worth but u guess you still can get the mt 70cc twin from here!!!  http://www.sdshobby.net/mld70-70cc-twin-cylinder-gas-engine-p-3827.html



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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/11/2012 5:58 PM   
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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/11/2012 6:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		nothing to  be concerned with,,,just be glad you didnt  really have your glasses manufactured  my  mt engines ,,otherwise all will be well....and hopefully you dont own any unsupported products or have been mislead and been made promises that never seem to never occur.as a footnote,, the mld engine probably will hit the mark,,in  reliability ,,but  its weight ,may  cause a lack of sales,,if you were to read this entire thread ,,you will see ,,a story of a good product,and a great idea slip away ,,due to many factors,which was in control ,,by the gentelman who,,s  name goes with the products.

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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/12/2012 2:49 AM   
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        I don't know how  you to be tell about Tomy. Most of  your description about MT are wrong. As I know you never come to China to meet MT Engine people maybe TOM did. Actually, MT Engine factory is apart with the office. All of you never been there but I did. Never saw a labor like what you mentioned and you asked Tomy to deliver the MT enigine parts to XYZ(Mr. Xu) for combination. Did you?  
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RE: MT70CC TWIN - 3/12/2012 3:26 AM   
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