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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/19/2012 12:07 AM   
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More clues. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What active warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Introduced in the mid 1960s.

(2) Still operational today.

(3) Flies very specialized mission.

(4) Involved in aerial refueling.

(5) Fewer than 100 built.

(6) Based upon a much more common transport aircraft.

(7) Very involved in education and training activities.

(8) The original aircraft were developed by modifying existing aircraft during the Viet Nam conflict. They are still in use today.

(9) All current aircraft are scheduled for replacement with a new dedicated model, but the same basic airframe will still be used.

(10) I’m looking for the basic designation for a complete family of special mission aircraft.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/19/2012 2:07 AM   
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Last clue for tonight. And it's a big clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What active warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Introduced in the mid 1960s.

(2) Still operational today.

(3) Flies very specialized mission.

(4) Involved in aerial refueling.

(5) Fewer than 100 built.

(6) Based upon a much more common transport aircraft.

(7) Very involved in education and training activities.

(8) The original aircraft were developed by modifying existing aircraft during the Viet Nam conflict. They are still in use today.

(9) All current aircraft are scheduled for replacement with a new dedicated model, but the same basic airframe will still be used.

(10) I’m looking for the basic designation for a complete family of special mission aircraft.

(11) Those missions all involve dedicated special operations forces. And, dedicated special operations aircraft.


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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/19/2012 8:14 AM   
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I think at least a couple of you have walked right past references to this aircraft in your research efforts. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What active warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Introduced in the mid 1960s.

(2) Still operational today.

(3) Flies very specialized mission.

(4) Involved in aerial refueling.

(5) Fewer than 100 built.

(6) Based upon a much more common transport aircraft.

(7) Very involved in education and training activities.

(8) The original aircraft were developed by modifying existing aircraft during the Viet Nam conflict. They are still in use today.

(9) All current aircraft are scheduled for replacement with a new dedicated model, but the same basic airframe will still be used.

(10) I’m looking for the basic designation for a complete family of special mission aircraft.

(11) Those missions all involve dedicated special operations forces. And, dedicated special operations aircraft.

(12) A United States Air Force bird.


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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/19/2012 1:25 PM   
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MC-130?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_MC-130

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/19/2012 11:37 PM   
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MC-130?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_MC-130


Buddy; we're playing ping pong here. Yes, you are right, Sir. And, of course, you are in line for the next question. Congratulations! Thanks; Ernie P.


The C-130 cargo plane, AC-130 gunship, KC-130 tanker and MC-130 Combat Talon, Spear and Shadow are all built on the same basic airframe. But they are all differently configured and distinct aircraft with distinct missions. That would make a great question all on its own, come to think of it. A remarkably versatile aircraft.

Question: What active warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Introduced in the mid 1960s.

(2) Still operational today.

(3) Flies very specialized mission.

(4) Involved in aerial refueling.

(5) Fewer than 100 built.

(6) Based upon a much more common transport aircraft.

(7) Very involved in education and training activities.

(8) The original aircraft were developed by modifying existing aircraft during the Viet Nam conflict. They are still in use today.

(9) All current aircraft are scheduled for replacement with a new dedicated model, but the same basic airframe will still be used.

(10) I’m looking for the basic designation for a complete family of special mission aircraft.

(11) Those missions all involve dedicated special operations forces. And, dedicated special operations aircraft.

(12) A United States Air Force bird.

(13) Dedicated to the aerial refueling of special operations helicopters and tilt-rotor aircraft, infiltration, exfiltration and resupply of special operations forces.

Answer: The Lockheed MC-130

The Lockheed MC-130 is the basic designation for a family of special mission aircraft operated by the United States Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC), a wing of the Air Education and Training Command, and an AFSOC-gained wing of the Air Force Reserve Command. Based on the C-130 Hercules transport, their mission is the infiltration, exfiltration, and resupply of special operations forces, and the air refueling of (primarily) special operations helicopter and tilt-rotor aircraft.


Members of the family include the MC-130E Combat Talon I, MC-130H Combat Talon II, MC-130W Combat/Dragon Spear, MC-130P Combat Shadow, and MC-130J Commando II. A possible MC-130 variant, designated the XFC-130H, did not proceed beyond the development stage, but one of its aircraft became the YMC-130H test bed aircraft for the Combat Talon II. The Air Force is requesting acquisition of at least 37 new production MC-130J aircraft to replace the Combat Talon Is and Combat Shadows, with the first ten received in 2011. A total of 69 MC-130J aircraft are planned, which will eventually replace all other MC-130 variants.

The MC-130E was the first Combat Talon and was developed to support clandestine special operations missions during the Vietnam War. Eighteen were created by modifying C-130E transports, and four lost through attrition, but the remainder continue in service more than four decades after their initial modification. An updated Combat Talon II was developed in the 1980s from the C-130H variant of the Hercules and went into service in the 1990s. Four of its 24 original aircraft have been lost in operations. The Combat Spear was implemented in 2006 as a cost effective program to supplement the Combat Talon II force, based on the same airframe. The Combat Shadow is a redesignation of several HC-130s. Initially developed during the Vietnam War for search and rescue operations, 28 were diverted to AFSOC in the 1980s to provide it with organic air refueling assets.



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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/20/2012 12:49 AM   
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Ernie,

Thanks! Your quizzes are excellent and a lot of fun to try and solve.

Here's a new one:

1. It's a military transport aircraft and versions have been configured as aerial refuelling tankers.

2. It is currently used by some of the NATO partners as well as some other countries.

3. The airframe is made of 2024 aluminum alloy instead of the more common 6061 alloy.

4. Maiden flight in 1982, final production delivery in 1998.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/20/2012 11:57 PM   
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Ernie,

Thanks! Your quizzes are excellent and a lot of fun to try and solve.

Here's a new one:

1. It's a military transport aircraft and versions have been configured as aerial refuelling tankers.

2. It is currently used by some of the NATO partners as well as some other countries.

3. The airframe is made of 2024 aluminum alloy instead of the more common 6061 alloy.

4. Maiden flight in 1982, final production delivery in 1998.


I'm going to be out of town this weekend, and couldn't handle asking a question. So, you guys have fun. Thanks; Ernie P.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/21/2012 8:14 PM   
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Here's a new clue:

1. It's a military transport aircraft and versions have been configured as aerial refuelling tankers.

2. It is currently used by some of the NATO partners as well as some other countries.

3. The airframe is made of 2024 aluminum alloy instead of the more common 6061 alloy.

4. Maiden flight in 1982, final production delivery in 1998.

5. Twin engine.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/23/2012 1:16 AM   
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No more clues until we get some guesses![>:]

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/23/2012 2:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JohnnyS

No more clues until we get some guesses![>:]


Airbus A310? Thanks; Ernie P.



The Airbus A310 is a medium- to long-range twin-engine widebody jet airliner. Launched in July 1978, it was the second aircraft created by Airbus Industrie,[Nb 1] the consortium of European aerospace companies which is now owned by EADS. The A310 is a shortened derivative of the A300, the first twin-engined widebody airliner.

The A310 and the A300 officially ceased production in July 2007 although the last delivery was in June 1998. As of August 2010, 255 A310s have been delivered, 193 of which are still in operation.

The A310 has been operated by many of the world's airforces as a pure transport (A310-300 MRT), however several have now been converted to the "Multi Role Tanker Transport" configuration by EADS, providing an aerial refueling capability. At least six have been ordered; four by the German Luftwaffe and two by the Canadian Forces. Deliveries began in 2004. Three were converted at EADS EFW in Dresden, Germany; the other three at Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg, Germany. The Chilean Air Force has purchased two second-hand A310s to replace its aging 707–320 'Aguila' tanker and transports. The first was received in October 2007.



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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/23/2012 3:16 AM   
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Ernie,

Right again! You're up!

An interesting bit of trivia: 2024 aluminum is less resistant to corrosion than 6061, so the Airbus aircraft must be painted and cannot fly polished like aircraft made from 6061 alloy. So the A300 aircraft flown by American Airlines are painted grey with the AA logos and stripes painted on top and all the other aircraft they fly are polished with the logo and stripes painted over that.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/23/2012 8:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JohnnyS

Ernie,

Right again! You're up!

An interesting bit of trivia: 2024 aluminum is less resistant to corrosion than 6061, so the Airbus aircraft must be painted and cannot fly polished like aircraft made from 6061 alloy. So the A300 aircraft flown by American Airlines are painted grey with the AA logos and stripes painted on top and all the other aircraft they fly are polished with the logo and stripes painted over that.


Always glad to oblige, JohnnyS. I hope this question amuses. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1).Began life as a mail plane.


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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/23/2012 8:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ernie P.


quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnnyS

Ernie,

Right again! You're up!

An interesting bit of trivia: 2024 aluminum is less resistant to corrosion than 6061, so the Airbus aircraft must be painted and cannot fly polished like aircraft made from 6061 alloy. So the A300 aircraft flown by American Airlines are painted grey with the AA logos and stripes painted on top and all the other aircraft they fly are polished with the logo and stripes painted over that.


Always glad to oblige, JohnnyS. I hope this question amuses. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1). Began life as a mail plane.




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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/23/2012 11:43 PM   
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A couple of clues to speed things along. Thanks; Ernie P.


Clues:

(1). Began life as a mail plane.

(2) A fast mailplane.

(3) Was developed into a reconnaissance aircraft and light bomber.


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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/24/2012 1:32 AM   
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DH-88 Comet?

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/24/2012 2:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: The Raven

DH-88 Comet?


An excellent guess, Sir; but incorrect. Please try again. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1). Began life as a mail plane.

(2) A fast mailplane.

(3) Was developed into a reconnaissance aircraft and light bomber.

(4) A single engine, low wing monoplane.


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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/24/2012 8:41 AM   
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An early morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1). Began life as a mail plane.

(2) A fast mailplane.

(3) Was developed into a reconnaissance aircraft and light bomber.

(4) A single engine, low wing monoplane.

(5) A crew of two.


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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/24/2012 10:20 AM   
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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/24/2012 11:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: a65l

Heinkel 70


No, Sir; sorry. But in a sense, you are closer than might first appear. This may help. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1). Began life as a mail plane.

(2) A fast mailplane.

(3) Was developed into a reconnaissance aircraft and light bomber.

(4) A single engine, low wing monoplane.

(5) A crew of two.

(6) Served with both the navy and army.



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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/25/2012 2:13 AM   
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A late evening clue. Also; this plane was faster than the DH-88 Comet. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1). Began life as a mail plane.

(2) A fast mailplane.

(3) Was developed into a reconnaissance aircraft and light bomber.

(4) A single engine, low wing monoplane.

(5) A crew of two.

(6) Served with both the navy and army.

(7) First flew in 1936; first entered service in 1937.



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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/25/2012 8:33 AM   
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A morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1). Began life as a mail plane.

(2) A fast mailplane.

(3) Was developed into a reconnaissance aircraft and light bomber.

(4) A single engine, low wing monoplane.

(5) A crew of two.

(6) Served with both the navy and army.

(7) First flew in 1936; first entered service in 1937.

(8) Set a world speed record over distance in 1937.


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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/25/2012 1:26 PM   
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The He-70 matches many of your clues but I don't think that's what you have in mind.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/25/2012 1:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ernie P.

A morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1). Began life as a mail plane.

(2) A fast mailplane.

(3) Was developed into a reconnaissance aircraft and light bomber.

(4) A single engine, low wing monoplane.

(5) A crew of two.

(6) Served with both the navy and army.

(7) First flew in 1936; first entered service in 1937.

(8) Set a world speed record over distance in 1937.



Mitsubishi Ki-15

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/25/2012 11:25 PM   
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Mitsubishi Ki-15

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And the new boy makes good! Right on the money, my friend; the Ki-15 it is. The Ki-15 was remarkably fast for it's time; especially considering the engine and fixed undercarriage. You're up to ask the next question. Thanks; Ernie P.




Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1). Began life as a mail plane.

(2) A fast mailplane.

(3) Was developed into a reconnaissance aircraft and light bomber.

(4) A single engine, low wing monoplane.

(5) A crew of two.

(6) Served with both the navy and army.

(7) First flew in 1936; first entered service in 1937.

(8) Set a world speed record over distance in 1937.

(9) Lightweight for its size.

(10) Speed was impressive; especially considering (A) The relatively anemic engine; and

(11) (B) the fixed and spatted undercarriage.

(12) The second plane built was purchased by a newspaper.



Answer: The Mitsubishi Ki-15; “Babs”.

The Mitsubishi Ki-15 (九七式司令部偵察機, Kyunana-shiki sireibu teisatsuki?) was a Japanese reconnaissance aircraft and a light attack bomber of the Second Sino-Japanese War and Pacific War. It began as a fast civilian mail plane. It was a single-engine, low-wing, cantilever monoplane with a fixed tailwheel undercarriage; it carried a crew of two. It served with both the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy (as the C5M). During World War II it was nicknamed "Babs" by the Allies.

The Ki-15 was designed by the Mitsubishi corporation to meet an Imperial Japanese Army Air Force requirement of 1935 for a two-seat, high-speed reconnaissance aircraft. The resulting aircraft was a low-wing cantilever monoplane with a fixed, spatted undercarriage, similar to other all-metal stressed-skin monoplanes developed elsewhere in 1930s, such as the Heinkel He 70 and the Northrop Alpha. Power was by a single Nakajima Ha-8 radial engine, giving 560 kW (750 hp) at 4,000 m (13,120 ft). The first prototype flew in May 1936, with testing proving successful, the aircraft meeting all performance requirements, reaching a speed of 481 km/h (299 mph) and showing good handling characteristics.

Service testing was completed without difficulty and the type was ordered into production under the official designation Army Type 97 Command Reconnaissance Plane Model 1 In May 1937, a year after the first flight, delivery of the first of 437 production aircraft to the army began.

Despite the relatively weak engine and fixed undercarriage, the Ki-15 was remarkably fast. During the initial flight testing, the Asahi newspaper Asahi Shimbun obtained permission to purchase the second prototype. The aircraft was given the designation Karigane (Wild Goose), flying on 19 March 1937, being named Kamikaze and registered as J-BAAI. It was the first Japanese-built airplane to fly to Europe and caused a sensation in 1937 by making the flight between Tokyo and London, for the Coronation of King George VI, between 6 April 1937 and 9 April 1937 in a flight time of 51 hours, 17 minutes and 23 seconds, a world record at the time. Following the success of the Japan-England flight, a small number of Ki-15s were sold to civil customers. One of the early production aircraft was named "Asakaze" (J-BAAL) and was also used by the "Asahi Shimbun"; others were used by various civilian operators as mail planes.

The Ki-15-I was almost immediately placed into operational service at the beginning of the war with China in 1937. The aircraft proved useful in the early period of the Second Sino-Japanese War and performed missions deep into Chinese strategic rear areas, as far as reaching Lanzhou. Its high speed gave it a distinct advantage until the Chinese Air Force acquired Soviet Polikarpov I-16 fighters. This aircraft was used for level bombing, close support and photo reconnaissance before being eventually replaced by the Mitsubishi Ki-30.

Plans were already in hand to improve the Ki-15-I, and in September 1939 the Ki-15-II was put into production with the 671 kW (900 hp) Mitsubishi Ha-26-1; the smaller diameter of this both reduced drag and overcame one of the major shortcomings of the initial version: poor forward field of view past the large-diameter of the initial Nakajima Kotobuki engine. The improved version entered production in September 1939 as the Ki-15-II.

The Japanese Navy, impressed by the performance of this aircraft, ordered 20 examples of the Ki-15-II under the designation “Navy Type 98 Reconnaissance Plane Model 1," or Mitsubishi designation C5M1, even before the Army. The Navy acquired subsequently 30 C5M2 aircraft which had an even more powerful 708 kW (949 hp) Nakajima Sakae 12 engine. They were used for reconnaissance duties. In a subsequent upgrade, the army also experimented with an even more powerful engine with 783 kW (1,050 hp) Mitsubishi 102 radial in the Ki-15-III which did not enter production.

When production ended, approximately 500 examples of all versions of the Ki-15 had been built, the majority in front-line service when the Pacific War began. By 1943, the Ki-15 had been relegated to second-line roles, but numbers were expended in kamikaze attacks in the closing stages of World War II.


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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 4/26/2012 1:34 AM   
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The He-70 matches many of your clues but I don't think that's what you have in mind.

Yes, I'm back. Been a very busy month at work and at home.


Glad to see you back, MajorTomski. We've missed you! Thanks; Ernie P.

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