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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 9/27/2012 3:42 AM   
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clue.#1 slow to production it was superseded by other short lived aircraft in the same role.
clue#2 Crew consisted of two pilots and two sonar operators.
clue#3 This aircraft was the first aircraft of its kind designed specifically to hunt and kill submarines.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 9/27/2012 12:18 PM   
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Bell HSL (Model 61)?

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 9/27/2012 4:08 PM   
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The Grumman AF Guardian?

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 9/27/2012 6:46 PM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_HSL
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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 9/28/2012 7:02 PM   
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Next warbird:-

1) Single engine.

2) Single seat.

3) Monoplane.

4) First aircraft of its type to be produced by the manufacturer.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 9/28/2012 8:00 PM   
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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 9/29/2012 4:26 PM   
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Next clue:-

1) Single engine.

2) Single seat.

3) Monoplane.

4) First aircraft of its type to be produced by the manufacturer.

5) Was a first for the intended service.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 9/30/2012 4:45 AM   
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Disregard.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 9/30/2012 6:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: adavis


Next clue:-

1) Single engine.

2) Single seat.

3) Monoplane.

4) First aircraft of its type to be produced by the manufacturer.

5) Was a first for the intended service.

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Well, let's get a few of the obvious choices out of the way. Thanks; Ernie P.


The Brewster F2A Buffalo was an American fighter aircraft which saw limited service early in World War II. It was one of the first U.S. World War II monoplanes with an arrestor hook and other modifications for aircraft carriers. The Buffalo won a competition against the Grumman F4F Wildcat in 1939 to become the U.S. Navy's first monoplane fighter aircraft. Although superior to the Grumman F3F biplane it replaced, the Buffalo turned out to be a big disappointment.

Several nations, including Finland, Belgium, Britain and the Netherlands, ordered the Buffalo to bolster their struggling air arms, but of all the users, only the Finns seemed to find their Buffalos effective, flying them in combat with excellent results. During the Continuation War of 1941–1944, the B-239's (a de-navalized F2A-1) operated by the Finnish Air Force proved capable of engaging and destroying most types of Soviet fighter aircraft operating against Finland at that time, achieving, in the first phase of that conflict, a kill-ratio of 32:1, 32 Soviet aircraft shot down for every B-239 lost and producing 36 Buffalo "aces".

When World War II began in the Pacific in December 1941, Buffalos operated by both British Commonwealth (B-339E) and Dutch (B-339D) air forces in South East Asia suffered severe losses in combat against the Japanese Navy's Mitsubishi A6M Zero and the Japanese Army's Nakajima Ki-43 "Oscar". The British attempted to lighten their Buffalos by removing ammunition and fuel and installing lighter guns in order to increase performance, but it made little difference.

The Buffalo was built in three variants for the U.S. Navy, the F2A-1, F2A-2 and F2A-3. (In foreign service, with lower horsepower engines, these types were designated B-239, B-339, and B-339-23 respectively.) The F2A-3 variant saw action with United States Marine Corps (USMC) squadrons at the Battle of Midway. Shown by the experience of Midway to be no match for the Zero, the F2A-3 was derided by USMC pilots as a "flying coffin." The F2A-3, however, was significantly inferior to the F2A-2 variant used by the Navy before the outbreak of the war.


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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 9/30/2012 7:11 PM   
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Next clue:-

1) Single engine.

2) Single seat.

3) Monoplane.

4) First aircraft of its type to be produced by the manufacturer.

5) Was a first for the intended service.

6) Cannon armed.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/1/2012 1:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: adavis


Next clue:-

1) Single engine.

2) Single seat.

3) Monoplane.

4) First aircraft of its type to be produced by the manufacturer.

5) Was a first for the intended service.

6) Cannon armed.

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Continuing with the obvious choices; the Supermarine Attacker. . Thanks; Ernie P.


The Supermarine Attacker was a British single-seat naval jet fighter built by Supermarine for the Royal Navy's Fleet Air Arm (FAA). It was the FAA's first jet fighter.

General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 37 ft 6 in (11.43 m)
Wingspan: 36 ft 11 in (11.25 m)
Height: 9 ft 11 in (3.02 m)
Wing area: 226 sq ft (21.0 m2)
Empty weight: 8,434 lb (3,826 kg)
Gross weight: 12,211 lb (5,539 kg)
Powerplant: 1 × Rolls-Royce Nene turbojet, 5,000 lbf (22 kN) thrust
Performance
Maximum speed: 590 mph (950 km/h; 513 kn)
Range: 590 mi (513 nmi; 950 km)
Service ceiling: 45,000 ft (13,716 m)
Rate of climb: 6,350 ft/min (32.3 m/s)
Armament
Guns: 4 × Hispano No. 3 Mark 5 20mm Cannon


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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/1/2012 7:17 PM   
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Next clue:-

1) Single engine.

2) Single seat.

3) Monoplane.

4) First aircraft of its type to be produced by the manufacturer.

5) Was a first for the intended service.

6) Cannon armed.

7) After evaluation by the intended service it was decided that the aircraft was not suitable for combat.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/1/2012 8:50 PM   
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P-39?

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/1/2012 9:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: adavis

Next clue:-

1) Single engine.

2) Single seat.

3) Monoplane.

4) First aircraft of its type to be produced by the manufacturer.

5) Was a first for the intended service.

6) Cannon armed.

7) After evaluation by the intended service it was decided that the aircraft was not suitable for combat.

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Continuing on the same theme; the Type 510, which lead to the Supermarine Swift. Thanks; Ernie P.


The Type 510 became the first British aircraft to have both swept wings and a swept tailplane. The Type 510 also had the distinction of becoming the first swept-wing aircraft to take off and land from an aircraft carrier, during trials for the Royal Navy's (RN) Fleet Air Arm (FAA). However, RN interest soon waned despite Supermarine's modifications to the aircraft to improve aspects of its performance.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/2/2012 1:08 AM   
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F-5F Grumman Skyrocket?

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/2/2012 2:49 PM   
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How about the XP-59?

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/2/2012 4:07 PM   
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Next clue:-

1) Single engine.

2) Single seat.

3) Monoplane.

4) First aircraft of its type to be produced by the manufacturer.

5) Was a first for the intended service.

6) Cannon armed.

7) After evaluation by the intended service it was decided that the aircraft was not suitable for combat.

8) Less than 40 built.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/2/2012 8:53 PM   
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Vought F6U Pirate?

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/3/2012 9:03 AM   
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Vought F6U Pirate?


...is correct - Over to you.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/3/2012 1:25 PM   
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I think we're starting to come full circle here, I seem to recall seeing the F6U somewhere in the past...

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/3/2012 2:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: a65l

I think we're starting to come full circle here, I seem to recall seeing the F6U somewhere in the past...


Well... As a matter of fact... But it is getting difficult to find a subject we haven't touched on previously. Thanks; Ernie P.


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ORIGINAL: JohnnyS And we have a winner!!!!! See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_F6U_Pirate You're up, lbrande!! The Vought F6U Pirate was the company's first jet fighter, designed for US Navy during the mid-1940s. Although pioneering the use of turbojet power as the first... contest to name the aircraft,[/color] the initial prototype, named the Pirate, made its first flight
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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/3/2012 2:36 PM   
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OK, new aircraft:

1) Single engine.

2) Single seat.

3) Monoplane

4) Cannon armed

5) Fixed undercarriage.

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/3/2012 4:23 PM   
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Dewoitine D.500?

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/3/2012 7:24 PM   
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New clue:

1) Single engine.

2) Single seat.

3) Monoplane

4) Cannon armed

5) Fixed undercarriage.

6) Less than 20 built

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RE: Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz - 10/4/2012 12:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JohnnyS

New clue:

1) Single engine.

2) Single seat.

3) Monoplane

4) Cannon armed

5) Fixed undercarriage.

6) Less than 20 built


If not the Dewoitine D.500, or any of its variants, why not the plane it beat out in the competition; the Bernard 260 C1? Thanks; Ernie P.


The Bernard 260 C1 was a French all metal, single engine, low wing monoplane with an open cockpit and fixed undercarriage, designed to a government single seat fighter specification issued in 1930. After extensive comparative tests the Dewoitine D.500 was ordered in preference, though the performances of the two aircraft were similar.

The Bernard 260 C1 (C for Chasse or fighter, 1 stating single seat) was the last of a long line of Bernard fighters to fly. It was built, along with about nine different designs from other manufacturers, to a 1930 government C1 specification calling for a maximum speeds of 325 km/h (202 mph) at 3,500 m (11,480 ft) and 300 km/h (186 mph) at 6,000 m (1,970 ft). Landing speeds had to be less than 100 km/h (62 mph). In 1931 it further specified an increased specific static strength and raised all speeds by 25 km/h (16 mph) if a supercharger was fitted. A final amendment, made in 1932, was that supercharging was obligatory and that the fighter should be armed with four machine guns or two cannons or one cannon with two machine guns.

The 260 was the most advanced aircraft of the group of prototypes, equipped with almost full span Handley Page slots as well as flaps on its low cantilever wing. The wing plan was straight edge and square tipped, with most of the taper on the trailing edge, its whole span occupied by ailerons and flaps which could be lowered together. The wing had a duralumin structure with a riveted metal skin. The tail surfaces had swept, almost straight leading edges, rounded tips and unswept trailing edges on the unbalanced control surfaces. The fuselage was built from two metal half-ovals joined vertically, with a riveted skin. The open cockpit was placed at the wing trailing edge, the fuselage tapering behind it. Each wheel of the 260's fixed, tailwheel undercarriage was mounted on a vertical, faired main leg, with a second strut behind forming a V and a third inboard to the fuselage underside. At the time of the first flight the wheels were enclosed in fairings but these had been removed by October 1932. Two cannons were fitted to the wing undersides, firing outside the propeller arc.

The Bernard 260 was powered by a 515 kW (690 hp) Hispano-Suiza 12Xbrs liquid cooled upright V-12 engine. Several different radiator arrangements were tried. For the first flight, made by Roger Baptiste in September 1932, a boxed chin radiator was used but was soon replaced by a pair of vertical units attached to the undercarriage legs. By November these had been replaced with a curved, open radiator under the engine, followed by yet another unsatisfactory system in January 1933. In March a retractable Villard-Ferlay radiator was fitted; this was used in the competitive tests.

In March 1933 the 260 was fitted with a sliding glass canopy, but the military feared the rear view would be lost and it was quickly removed. The height of the fin was increased to improve stall recovery. In June the slats were modified to open automatically. After losing its propeller in flight in July the 260, which landed safely, was significantly modified. The span was reduced by 1.25 m (4 ft 1 in) and a final radiator change was made. This involved an almost circular unit in front of the engine, with the propeller shaft emerging through it, above the centre. As a result the profile of the nose was considerably altered, appearing less streamlined. At about the same time, the 260 regained its wheel fairings. It first flew in this form on 4 October 1933.

The Bernard 260 flew for more than 100 hours and made several hundred takeoffs and landings at the military test centre at Villacoublay but, in the end, no contract was awarded. Instead, the Dewoitine D.500 was put into production. Bernard were told that the reasons they failed were the difficulties encountered with the cooling system, the weight penalty of the slots and the difficulty of deploying them in manoeuvres and the lower rate of climb, the 260 taking about 10% longer to reach 3,000 m (9,840 m) than the Dewoitine. They were also concerned by the "chaotic" state of Bernard's management structure. Which of the two aircraft was faster in level flight depended on altitude; the Bernard was faster at height down to less than 5,000 m (16,400 ft), for example by 9 km/h (5.6 mph) at 6,500 m (21,325 ft) but at sea level the Dewoitine was quicker by 6 km/h (3.7 mph). The Bernard could take off in 140 m (460 ft) and land in 180 m (590 ft).

The end of the 260 programme also finished two proposed developments: the 261, which would have had the more powerful, 642 kW (860 hp), Hispano-Suiza 12Ybrs and a retractable undercarriage and the 262, a carrier-borne fighter with arrestor hook etc. Only the 261 reached the construction stage.



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