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Wrecked my trainer- whats next? - 7/13/2003 6:01:42 PM   
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OK! Seems that my reciever cacked out on my first solo, and my plane landed into the salty water. Oops! $$$! OK, my heart broke to pieces, but fortunately, 4 servos (out of 4) and a 40fx could be recovered. pretty lucky the engine was still with me. OK so i've blewn my plane, a 40 sized Trainer (Phoenix Classic). Now, my instructor advises me to get a low wing trainer, like the Phoenix Scanner. I'm really leaning away from any Phoenix, because their instruction manuals are crap. Any suggestions on wich plane i should get next?
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Re: Wrecked my trainer- whats next? - 7/13/2003 7:08:51 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by csisfun
OK! Seems that my receiver cacked out on my first solo, and my plane landed into the salty water. Oops! $$$! OK, my heart broke to pieces, but fortunately, 4 servos (out of 4) and a 40fx could be recovered. pretty lucky the engine was still with me. OK so i've blewn my plane, a 40 sized Trainer (Phoenix Classic). Now, my instructor advises me to get a low wing trainer, like the Phoenix Scanner. I'm really leaning away from any Phoenix, because their instruction manuals are crap. Any suggestions on wich plane i should get next? [/QUOTE]

Sig's Four Star 60 (4*60) makes a great second or 3rd plane. It is a low wing, semi-symmetrical airfoil and is a tail dragger. This plane is good just to have in your collection for anyone. Since you already have a .40 size motor, then the 4*40 would be the size that you would need. The 60 size is a little larger and a little more stable due to the fact that it is a larger aircraft, but the 40 size will work fine and it would be a good transition for you to go to a tail dragger setup. Only down fall for some is that this plane has to be built. It is a kit, not an ARF, but if that is not a problem, then this is the plane for you IMO.




Specs:
http://www.hobbybarn.com/SIG-pages/sigrc44.html

Can be purchased at:
LHS or http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFG06&P=7

Here is a site that may interest you on the 4*40:
http://www.renderwurx.com/rc/sig4star/

Hope this helps,

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Sig 4 * 40 - 7/13/2003 7:21:47 PM   
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Where I fly the Sig 4 * 40 is the overwhelmingly favorite "second plane".
Seperate aileron servos and sheeted turtle deck are the typical "mods".

That last website DTB rferred to is really nice.
Geez, I want to build one - just to build one that way.

The other planes people here like are the Sig Something Extra and Tiger 2.
You'll have to ask the experienced for opinions on them.
Sig Kougar/Cobras are also well liked.

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Wrecked my trainer- whats next? - 7/13/2003 9:09:39 PM   
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sounded great until i found out its a kit , and furthermore, i dont fly too great. i need a Low winged trainer... actually i land crappily only, i survive in the air. Seagull PC9 looks great (and cheap), it requires a 46 engine (or 40, listed in RCA), but ive only got a 40. Would it work if a 46 is needed?

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Wrecked my trainer- whats next? - 7/13/2003 9:59:12 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by csisfun
sounded great until i found out its a kit , and furthermore, i dont fly too great. i need a Low winged trainer... actually i land crappily only, i survive in the air. Seagull PC9 looks great (and cheap), it requires a 46 engine (or 40, listed in RCA), but ive only got a 40. Would it work if a 46 is needed? [/QUOTE]


csisfun, since building is not for you right now. I would recommend a Super Sportster. It is a good 2nd plane. It flys well, but not as stable as the four star. Only a slight difference, but still a good plane to consider. It is available as an ARF.



http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAVR1&P=0

OR

A "U-Can-Do" ARF is actually not a bad 2nd or 3rd plane to fly around before trying to do any 3D stunts. More of a med-wing though.



http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDUL8&P=0

OR

Hobbico Brightstar, which is actually a true low wing trainer. Hobbico made a skyvista, which was bascially the same exact plane.



http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXK977&P=0
http://www.hobbico.com/reviews/hcaa2065-rcr.html
http://www.hobbico.com/reviews/hcaa2065-rcm.html

All these planes have wheel pants, so take it easy if flying off a grass runway.

Also, the .40 size motor you have will work on the Seagull PC9 IMO.

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Wrecked my trainer- whats next? - 7/13/2003 11:01:35 PM   
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Why not just get another trainer and finish learning how to fly it.
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Wrecked my trainer- whats next? - 7/13/2003 11:09:12 PM   
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i can fly! but its just that im not too good at landing!!! coming to the planes, i thank you all for these suggestions, however, i dont get Tower Hobby planes here, and some planes (like the Brightstar) are really expensive! $300! owch!

im also thinking of SPAD, is this good?


btw, im 13=poor, so i dont wanna spend too much!

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Wrecked my trainer- whats next? - 7/13/2003 11:34:11 PM   
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Why not get a Super Air i think they're one of the most popular 'second models' in the uk.

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/superair.htm

There's a review on this site btw, at:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/tm.asp?m=952677]

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trainer wrecked - 7/14/2003 2:30:27 AM   
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You are young, broke, and relatively new to this. I understand, being old, broke at a different level and new also. Go to the spad site and look at the Debonair or the Buhor. Durable, cheap and easy to build. I have never regretted doing so after learning on the LT40 kit, which was expensive, fragile, and hard to build. Better even is to find someone with experience with spads to help you chose and build one. Good luck

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Wrecked my trainer- whats next? - 7/14/2003 2:40:00 AM   
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[QUOTE]im also thinking of SPAD, is this good?
btw, im 13=poor, so i dont wanna spend too much! [/QUOTE]

You sound like a perfect candidate for a SPAD! You already have most - if not all the stuff you'll need from your trainer to complete a SPAD. I recommend building a DPS - I think you'll find it a great second airplane. If you just have to have a low wing plane - you could build a Demon - but I recommend building a DPS first.

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Wrecked my trainer- whats next? - 7/14/2003 4:36:10 AM   
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u could buy a flight simulator and practice landings then buy a plane plus flight simulators are cheaper than planes

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next plane - 7/14/2003 5:29:43 AM   
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good suggestion on the simulator. the FMS is free and can be run with a simple joy stick if you do not want to hook up to your radiotx. Spad site has link to the FMS

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Wrecked my trainer- whats next? - 7/14/2003 5:44:38 AM   
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The way I read this is you took your first solo flight and crashed.
The answer is easy to what is the next plane..............another trainer!!!

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Landing - 7/14/2003 6:57:16 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by csisfun
i can fly! but its just that im not too good at landing!!! coming to the planes, i thank you all for these suggestions, however, i dont get Tower Hobby planes here, and some planes (like the Brightstar) are really expensive! $300! owch!

im also thinking of SPAD, is this good?


btw, im 13=poor, so i dont wanna spend too much!
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Not to be snide, but landing is pretty important.

I've seen many pilots who can do loops and rolls and many advanced aerobatics but can barely get the plane down without killing someone.

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