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RE: Redcat's Remote Start - 3/4/2010 7:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, here's what I have right now.  It's an EZ-Start I (the one for the TRX .15) that's been modded and I added an aluminum plate to the back (see the pic above) to make it fit my .28 engine better.

I'm not sure how the Vertex will fit, the critical part wll be the one way bearing.  Most of the starter shafts I've seen are the same size, but the hex in the EZ-Start takes a 12mm hex.  So you will need to have either a 12mm hex for your OWB already, or you will have to find a 12mm hex and it the OWB inside it doesn't fit you'll need to either use your OWB by pressing out the actual bearing inside your hex, or buying one (boca bearing is my recommendation) that will fit both the hex and the shaft on your engine.

My shaft is kinda weird in that it comes out of the motor, and it liiks basically like a bolt with no threads.  This is the reason I'm not using the EZ-Start II, because I would have to make a different shaft to adapt to use the EZ-Start II. When I have my lathe I may take a swing at it.

I had a problem with my setup the other day, it ATE the gears inside.  I mean, ATE. They were all chewed up and the only gears to survive were the one on the starter motor andthe big one that spins the engine.

One advantage to hacking an EZ-Start II in would be the availbility of all aluminum gears (eBay) and I believe it has a bit more torque.

Ok, these pics are of the old relay/servo board setup and the new (not improved) micro-switch.  The first pics are of the old setup.  I glued the relay to the servo-board, and the perfboard is for the diode and the electrical connections etc. 

The switch is from an old arcade controller board (I have a few here) but you should be able to eBay one cheaply.  I bolted it on my MonsterMT in a place that the forward/reverse servo could activate it while in reverse.

I don't like it because it's not as portable as an ESC. In order to use this you need to add/have a 3rd channel servo someplace and then mount the switch somehow.  An ESC is much cleaner, and I have a Novak GT-7 en-route.  It should work, and it's BEC supplys what I hope to be enough power (6v@3A) to run the 4 servos I'm using.




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RE: Redcat's Remote Start - 3/4/2010 7:40 PM   
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LOL.. Well bud, I don`t think just becuase the vehicle is $170 altogether that the ez start should be sold for under $50.. That just doesnt make sense sorry. People will pay almost $100 for that.


Losi's setup lists for about $60, for the starter and the module.  The harness is like $5.

If nothing else, it's cheap.

I think Traxxas' starters are ~50.



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RE: Redcat's Remote Start - 3/4/2010 8:07 PM   
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LOL.. Well bud, I don`t think just becuase the vehicle is $170 altogether that the ez start should be sold for under $50.. That just doesnt make sense sorry. People will pay almost $100 for that.


Losi's setup lists for about $60, for the starter and the module.  The harness is like $5.

If nothing else, it's cheap.

I think Traxxas' starters are ~50.

Wow I was WAY off lol.. I would pay 100$ for the remote start for sure, But even a better buy at 60$





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RE: Redcat's Remote Start - 3/4/2010 11:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yup, people on eBay were trying to sell the Losi starter for $45 and up, then got a look at the losi price list ;-)

The traxxas is ok, for what it is, but I really want to see the Redcat setup.

The problem they all have in common, from what I can see is that they all use speed 400 motors.  Too small, really, for anything larger than .20, and barely adequate for that.


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RE: Redcat's Remote Start - 3/5/2010 8:07 AM   
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The problem they all have in common, from what I can see is that they all use speed 400 motors.  Too small, really, for anything larger than .20, and barely adequate for that.



That's a fact! I bet that'll continue to be a problem tryin to turn your .28.. But I'm pullin for ya!  Cant wait to see it all workin!!  

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RE: Redcat's Remote Start - 3/5/2010 9:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		yea i can't wait to get my hands on one of those remote starts..either a t ten or a red cat 3.3 jus seen the new vid with alishanmao runnen it..looks good jus can't decide on which one i want to get.. anyone got any ideas which one will be better for the long haul..i knw redcats is cheaper, but i love the remote that comes with the t ten, with all the vitals on it.. some one let us knw how that redcat is when it is released

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RE: Redcat's Remote Start - 3/5/2010 3:23 PM   
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That's a fact! I bet that'll continue to be a problem tryin to turn your .28.. But I'm pullin for ya!  Cant wait to see it all workin!!  


It's only a problem when I get flooded, ususally, or when the engine is extremely cold. Then what I'll do is to loosen the glowplug and put an external igniter on to get her sputtering then tighten it up.  Usually it dies, but when I reconnect the glow lead and try again it'll fire.




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RE: Redcat's Remote Start - 3/5/2010 5:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Redcat is due 3/22 per when I entered "Reactor RS" in the search box at redcat.com, and then went to the 1 product page....




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RE: Redcat's Remote Start - 3/13/2010 8:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just a quick update here, because I've been working on my Triumph Spitfire lately, and letting the XTM sit and marinate a bit

I've still got the microswitch setup as shown in the last set of pics, I figure it works well, so why change it.

But I also eBayed a Novak GT-7 ESC.  The main reason I wanted the GT-7 is because in the specs it shows it supplies 6v to the RX at 3A. (volts, Amps) so this should be more than enough to run my servos.

Just to be safe, though, the Novak is going on my Mammoth, which only has 3 servos instead of 4 like the monster.  Monster takes 2 steering, Mammoth doesn't.

I hooked up a Tamyia plug for the battery on the Novak, and a Dean's on the motor output, then hooked this up with an RX to the Monster just to test, and it spins with no problems.  I haven't hooked in all the servos, but I imagine it'll be no problem.

And as a bonus, the ESC has a switch, so if by some chance the BEC doesn't cut it, I can run the RX direct from the 6-cell like I do now.

I like the GT-7 so much I might have to get another for my remote start boat project



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