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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/14/2003 4:15:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Seems like if Litco is as good as everyone says they are at Battery Management, they would have the foresight to get some professional business management. I can only imagine how much money these guys would make if some MBA-type fellow went in there and showed them what they could do with the demand that they have… build a bigger plant, increase production, invest in R&D, diagram a supply versus demand chart for them and explain increased capacity revenue incline.

Be that as it may, I still don’t have one, and have tried each time. Doggone it. Any tips on where to get one?

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Re: Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/14/2003 5:56:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by deucester
Seems like if Litco is as good as everyone says they are at Battery Management, they would have the foresight to get some professional business management. I can only imagine how much money these guys would make if some MBA-type fellow went in there and showed them what they could do with the demand that they have… build a bigger plant, increase production, invest in R&D, diagram a supply versus demand chart for them and explain increased capacity revenue incline.

Be that as it may, I still don’t have one, and have tried each time. Doggone it. Any tips on where to get one? [/QUOTE]

Maybe Litco has figured out something that MBAs haven't . . .
MONEY IS NOT EVERYTHING IN LIFE!

Just ask those who's jobs the MBAs figured could be better done in China!

Ask those who's life savings have been decimated by a stock market with no brick and mortar behind the companies.

Ask former Emron employees and investors.

< Message edited by Red Scholefield -- Jul 14 2003 1:02PM >

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/14/2003 6:09:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		If this is so, then those who's life savings have been decimated by a stock market and former Emron investors have nothing to worry about! Don't fool yourself, money is important, and if you don't think so, try to retire without it.

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/14/2003 6:17:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree with Red.

As an example in my business, residential building and remodeling, where a lot of guys get their builders license and slowly work up to a crew of about a dozen employees. Now he’s a paper contractor running around putting out fires and not doing anything near what got him into the business to begin with, working with his hands. Before you know it everybody but one employee is gone and he’s back to doing the work, making more money and happier doing it.

It’s much easier and more profitable (for the owner) being a Litco than a Hobbico.

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/14/2003 6:19:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK, that's fine; however, those are not very good tips on where to find one.

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/14/2003 7:15:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by deucester
If this is so, then those who's life savings have been decimated by a stock market and former Emron investors have nothing to worry about! Don't fool yourself, money is important, and if you don't think so, try to retire without it. [/QUOTE]

I think you missed my point here. Certainly money is important, but when one makes it the MOST important, things can get out of wack. Just look at the screwed up sports heros, entertainment personalities, and big league business tycoons.

Lets look at it this way. When you have enough to live the life style you have chosen (I didn't say wanted) its one thing, but using it to keep score is another.

Apparantly Litco (Peter Figielski) has reached what he feels is a good balance in his business and life. We would all do well to emulate him in this regard.

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/14/2003 7:32:10 PM   
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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/14/2003 9:07:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		This has been discussed many, many, many times before. Do a search and you'll find lots to read.

I think the thing to remember is Litco sells every Alpha 4 they "want" to. If they wanted to sell more, they would.

If you have the formula, go out and build a better charger, market it, sell it and make your fortune. Telling us how to do it proves nothing about your theories.

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/14/2003 9:40:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Telling us how to do it proves nothing about your theories.[/QUOTE]

I didn't tell you how to do anything, simply suggested that their production did not meet demand. If you read more into it then that, it must have been a sudden gust of wind.

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/15/2003 1:14:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I understand deucesters frustration. I know several people who try to get on the list and fail time and time again. Maybe some peoples internet server is too slow or something, preventing the email to be sent at the right time. The only people defending Mr. litco are people who already own several of them and would like to see the demand remain high.

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Re: Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/15/2003 1:43:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by deucester
… build a bigger plant, increase production, invest in R&D, diagram a supply versus demand chart for them and explain increased capacity revenue incline.
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Sorry, I read the above as a "this is how it should be done" type of thing.

They are available here occasionally. Ebay also. Keep checking back.

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/15/2003 6:15:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Red Rover
The only people defending Mr. litco are people who already own several of them and would like to see the demand remain high. [/QUOTE]

But there are just as many people that own Alpha's that don't defend Litco either. I don't think its as cut and dried as you may believe

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/15/2003 6:29:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		The only problem I see with supply and demand of an Alpha 4 is Mr. Figielski isn’t pricing his product right.

Demand is high and supply is low, so us consumers would like to see supply increased to meet demand. When actually price should be increased reducing demand to meet supply.

I play that game all year long, when demand for remodeling is high, like right now, my prices go up. When the lead time on my schedule shrinks so do my prices. Simple supply and demand economics.

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/15/2003 10:58:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sdr
The only problem I see with supply and demand of an Alpha 4 is Mr. Figielski isn’t pricing his product right.

Demand is high and supply is low, so us consumers would like to see supply increased to meet demand. When actually price should be increased reducing demand to meet supply.

[/QUOTE]

I agree, and when one figures he can pick up a quick $50.00 if he wins the Litco Lottery by turning right around and selling the unit when he gets it, it does put more pressure on the situation.

But I have sold mine in the past for exactly what I paid for them, plus shipping and insurance. I have been told I was nuts for not getting the going open market price. My main reason for ordering is to make sure I have one in the pipe line should one of the two I presently have decides to quit.

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/16/2003 12:27:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		on ebay new litco alpha 4 @ $365 us, 5 days left on auction. Can we expect the price to go up on the next run?

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/16/2003 6:57:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have no problem with the man/company that makes them. It's the screaming fans that post here on every thread about how it's the best charger etc... Best charger my ass - if you can't get your hands on one it might as well be science fiction.

It may be a great machine, but if you can't get one to plug into YOUR battery it's worthless to you.

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Alpha 4 Battery "Management" System - 7/16/2003 7:31:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Red Scholefield
But I have sold mine in the past for exactly what I paid for them, plus shipping and insurance. I have been told I was nuts for not getting the going open market price. My main reason for ordering is to make sure I have one in the pipe line should one of the two I presently have decides to quit. [/QUOTE]

So Mr. Scholefield, how does an individual become eligible to purchase your extra Alpha 4? Being that you’re the smartest and most handsome individual on this or any other message board.

I barter too (as it says below my name).

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