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t3 speed problem - 7/18/2003 3:45:13 AM   
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if i put a novak Explorer II in my t3 how much differnce would it even change the speed alot or just save my money

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t3 speed problem - 7/18/2003 3:46:24 AM   
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What do you have in it now for an esc?

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t3 speed problem - 7/18/2003 4:22:58 AM   
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Are you racing Stock or Mod? Depending on the ESC you have now I would say, save your money. If you're going to upgrade wait and shop around a little. Talk to other people at your track and see what they like and why.

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t3 speed problem - 7/18/2003 4:55:37 AM   
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i have just a stock

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t3 speed problem - 7/18/2003 7:25:30 PM   
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Now the question remains... which ESC do you currently have? If it's something that an RTR came with then I would definately say that it's worth upgrading. Now I did some searching around on the net to try and find an answer to the question, "Does a better ESC make you faster?" After my search the best advice I could find was this: "The last really significant innovation in speed controls was "high-frequency" operation. What does "high-frequency" mean? A speed control works by chopping the voltage delivered to the motor. At half throttle, the speed control delivers full voltage to the motor half the time, and no voltage to the motor the other half. The faster the voltage is switched on and off the smoother the motor runs. High-frequency speed controls give you better control, are more efficient at partial throttle (give longer running times), and help the motor last longer. That's why you want one. Tekin and Novak don't make anything else.

Will upgrading from an inexpensive high-frequency speed control to a more expensive one make you go faster? Possibly, but not because of the slightly lower on-resistance of the more expensive speed control -- the difference is not significant. Consider buying a more expensive speed control if that speed control gives you better control of the throttle, allowing you to drive better." Chances are that your speed control is already "high-frequency"; I hope that helps.

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t3 speed problem - 7/18/2003 7:31:13 PM   
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he doesnt currently have an esc i dont think. Last time i talked to him he was just getting into the hobby and looking for an esc to buy.


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t3 speed problem - 7/18/2003 7:59:16 PM   
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OH... well in that case. As long as you purchase a Novak or a Tekin you'll be fine. I'd spend at least $90 to get a good one that will offer you a good bit of control. Also I would avoid the reversible ESCs for the following reasons. I have a reversible and it is HUGE. You can program the reverse out and it does have brakes but the size is still outrageous. And in all honesty, I've never even used the reverse... but some people really like it. Anyhow, this is what I could find about reversible ESCs:

"What about reversing speed controls? Reverse is a great feature to have when you are practicing: When you turn in too soon and run into an obstacle, you can back out and try again. Reverse is also great for just playing around. But there are some downsides to adding reverse to a speed control. First, reverse adds resistance to a speed control. The added resistance of a reversing control will slow you down a little bit, and means that the speed control may overheat if you try to run a low-turn modified motor. (Due to the marvelous FETs and high-speed switching incorporasted in modern ESCs, this is less true than it used to be; all of Tekin's reversing controls now handle hot modified motors.) Second, reverse adds a small amount of weight to the speed control. Third, some reversing speed controls lack brakes. Finally, it is illegal to use reverse while racing. If you want reverse and also want to race, be sure to get a reversing speed control that handles modified motors, that has brakes, and that allows you to disable reverse entirely for racing."

I hope all this blabber helps... good luck.

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t3 speed problem - 7/18/2003 10:49:57 PM   
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thanks Berserker

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t3 speed problem - 7/19/2003 12:08:59 AM   
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I had a keyence A-07R esc with reverse and that thing was the smallest esc I have ever owned. It was maybe 1 inch by 1 inch and 1/2 inch tall. I got it on sale from Ultimate Hobbies for $100 and handles down to 7 turns. It even had adjustable breaking, so not all reversing esc's are big. the Explorer II should work just fine. I have one right now and it has lasted forever. Just go with what you can afford. if you got your T3 ready to run, and it came with the LRP Runner, then keep that! That is probably the best esc I have seen come with a ready to run, and yes, I have had one of those too. Getting an expensive esc won't increase speed, just how smooth the throttle is. As long as you stick to a good, lasting esc brand like GM, Novak, LRP, Keyence, and some Tekins, then you should be ok.

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t3 speed problem - 7/19/2003 12:12:33 AM   
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Thanks for the correction Me+RC=$$$. So not all reversibles are huge, but mine definately is I have a Novak Rooster. It's a good ESC and it still actually weighs less than this old Duster that I have and it's half the size. Great name, I think we can all relate to that Me+RC=$$$.

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t3 speed problem - 7/19/2003 12:43:56 AM   
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Yea, I've had 2 Roosters and they are pretty big but they last forever and then some. I've also had a Tekin rebel and that thing wasn't the smallest either, but it stood up to anything and never had a heating problem (ran a Reedy Fury 12x2 in it). I think Novak is one of the best names on the market today.

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t3 speed problem - 7/19/2003 1:05:11 AM   
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Stay away from the GM V3. I had one and it gave me nothing but problems. Just a whole lot of glitching going on. I know 2 other people that had the same speed control and had the same problems.

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t3 speed problem - 7/19/2003 1:10:52 AM   
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Alright, no GM's. By the way, how did the hole in the windshield thing work for you?

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t3 speed problem - 7/19/2003 1:34:57 AM   
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The whole in the windshield thing worked out very good. I had some guy say it was against roar regulations, but I've never raced in any roar races anyways. I didn't put any lexan on the inside but I did leave the flap up. I could actually pick my car up by the motor after the race, it helped that much. Thanks a lot for the tip. I was reading the roar website and it says you can cut out your side windows, so I may do that on the next body, but only a little.

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t3 speed problem - 7/19/2003 1:38:32 AM   
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Glad it helped. Yea, it's not roar legal, but if your just racing club races it doesn't really matter.

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t3 speed problem - 7/19/2003 1:42:01 AM   
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Right, plus it saves me from burning out my motor.

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t3 speed problem - 7/20/2003 5:29:46 AM   
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Get a Hacker Brushless set up i did that to my micro RS4 and the thing is doing 90+...though every 1 run my tires are done and i need to geta new set...LOL very FUN but VERY expensive...your probably gonna say no way it goes that fast but i had a officer radar it for me. it was pretty cool...LOL ok now back to the subject... get a Novak: Dually, Cyclone, Clyclone2 anyone of these have a no motor limit which is a nice feature... the Price for these starts at about $90 for the Dually(it has 2 profiles stock and Modified) Right now I'm actually using it in my T3...which might i add is for sale cheap

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