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dumb question #3 - 7/19/2003 7:21:18 AM

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is this combat stuff like a game you play? I am not into planes YET but am into offroad nitro stuff. Someone menchened 'points' and I was wondering

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dumb question #3 - 7/19/2003 9:52:52 AM

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Combat is when you take cheap airplanes <$20, tie streamers on the back of them, and try to cut the other peoples streamers.

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dumb question #3 - 7/19/2003 6:52:03 PM

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how do you cut them, and can you giv me the name of one of the planes that are often used? or even a link if possibele? thanks

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dumb question #3 - 7/19/2003 7:06:15 PM

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Go here and look at the pictures
http://www.rccombat.com/forum_2000/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9764

When you're done checking out the cool pics...go to the top of the screen there and click on "home" and you will be at the home page of the Radio Control Combat Association...where you can read for hours about R/C combat!!!

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dumb question #3 - 7/19/2003 7:51:02 PM

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Here is another set of pictures from the recently completed combat Nationals in Muncie, IN.

http://www.rccombat.com/forum_2000/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9954

[url]www.georgiacombat.com[/url] is another good site. Lou has alot of good information about getting into combat and reviews of some of the more popular kits right now

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dumb question #3 - 7/22/2003 12:26:09 AM

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Dan,

We will be flying combat in Columbus and in Canton sometime in Aug. We will be doing this just as a demonstration for some of the people that I have meet and some that I grew up with. Do you live anywhere close to one of these cities? I hope to find some pilots that will fly with us.

Bob

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dumb question #3 - 7/22/2003 12:27:55 AM

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i live in toledo. if you can PM me with the directions, or email them to me. [email]Dan1220@buckeye-express.com[/email]

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dumb question #3 - 7/22/2003 12:32:47 AM

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You may be able to check it out a lot close to home. I will email a friend who lives in Lima and maybe he can set up something for a demo, and YES I will let you know how to get to the field as soon as I can get the direction.

Bob

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dumb question #3 - 7/22/2003 12:49:38 AM

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Thanks, Id appreciate it

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dumb question #3 - 7/24/2003 1:01:39 AM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Combat Addict
Combat is when you take cheap airplanes <$20, tie streamers on the back of them, and try to cut the other peoples streamers. [/QUOTE]

OK, So I've seen a few combat meets and I think its way cool.... but in the meets I went to the planes were required to be 1/12 scale WWII models....

The kits for the planes I saw run for around 50$ each....

I understand there are different types of combat...
What did I see????, and how do you make a <$20 scale combat plane.... ????

I am familiar with the spads... and they are cheap and durable (which is great) (even though the rest of the folks in my flight circle seem to only be able to crash them...)...but I'd be interested to know if anyone knows of a cheap scale combat plane?
Thanks

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dumb question #3 - 7/24/2003 1:14:41 AM

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There are a few SPAD 2610 (RCCA 1/12 scale rules) legal designs out there.

However, I would generaly disagree with Combat Addict's definition. Most combat planes do cost more than $20 when bought as a kit.

You can scratch build for a lot less than a kit would cost.

Some of the least expensive and most durable scale kits come from JK Aerotech. Jay Lawless makes a small selection of kits as well that are inexpensive. And there are a several others that aren't coming to mind right away.

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dumb question #3 - 7/24/2003 6:38:53 PM

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Goku,

MOST combat meets don't use 1/12 scale planes. The most popular class right now is called Open B, where the planes can be any design you want, within some limits. You can read the rules at http://www.rccombat.com.

Another class is SSC, slow survivable combat. You can also see the rules for this class at http://www.rccombat.com.

Scale combat is dying a slow death, because people simply don't want to spend days building a beautiful scale plane only to have it shredded in a midair collision. Most Open B planes and SSC planes can be built in a few hours, and are much more resilient. If they are damaged in a midair, they can usually be repaired quickly. In fact, I flew out of two Open B collisions last Saturday, and none of the SSC collisions we had were fatal.

Maybe you should work on getting Open or SSC combat started in your area. The guys flying scale will have a lot more fun if they aren't squeezing their sphincters every time two planes come within 30 feet of each other.

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dumb question #3 - 7/24/2003 8:53:32 PM

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What class to fly depends almost entirely on where you happen to be located. In some parts of the country, scale is totally dead. In others, it's the most popular class. SSC is very popular in some areas, and non-existant in others. So check with what other guys are doing before investing in hardware.

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dumb question #3 - 7/24/2003 9:46:27 PM

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Here's what I use for combat. It's a wonder with OS 25 La on the front.
James

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dumb question #3 - 7/25/2003 12:10:07 AM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Matt Kirsch
Goku,

MOST combat meets don't use 1/12 scale planes. The most popular class right now is called Open B, where the planes can be any design you want, within some limits. You can read the rules at http://www.rccombat.com.

Another class is SSC, slow survivable combat. You can also see the rules for this class at http://www.rccombat.com.

The guys flying scale will have a lot more fun if they aren't squeezing their sphincters every time two planes come within 30 feet of each other. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for directing me to rccombat.com... Around here we have basically have only done 2610 scale combat.
The Open Class B looks like it has a lot of potential (to get the locals hooked on)... It seems like it has many of the same rules as scale... its has the same weight limits, but allows a slightly larger engine, and admits ANY plane....

SPADS seem like the cheapest, most durable candidate for Class B.... but don't they weigh a bit more than their balsa counterparts?
and as such, wouldn't a SPAD be a bit slower (due to more weight) ?

Maybe I've just seen some heavy spads (mostly just the flat bat though...) (my slow 1/12 Balsa T-6 with a .25 FX flies circles around my buddy's flat bat with a .40 LA in it)

I guess you give and take... either you get cheap/durable SPAD, or faster/lighter balsa (and doesn't fly like a brick)

So I read the SSC rules..... correct me if I'm wrong... you fly with a bigger plane (min. wing and weight requirements.), a smaller engine (a .15 size)... and you fly combat with it?
Does that work out ok? Or does it look like a bunch of sailplanes in a slow motion chase scene...

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dumb question #3 - 7/25/2003 12:30:29 AM

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Balsa planes will not last very long, I don't know of anybody in RCCA using Balsa anymore. Most are either foamies or coro jobs.

For Open B, he flatbats, especially the black ones are probably the toughest fuse you can use and keeps the RX, battery and fuel tank protected in the likely event of a mid-air. There are quite a few people using the bats with foam wings and fiberglass spars doing very well in the standings. The Bat Trick is a popular kit that uses a black bat (http://www.hattrickrc.com)

You will probably keep more newer combat pilots if you fly SSC, than Open B. You'll do alot more flying and alot less building...

The SPADS are great starter combat planes, but the coro-wings just don't hold up like they used to...

I am a big proponent of SSC. It envolves more strategy and less lightening quick reflexes, so its more enjoyable than B class for me. While not as quick as Open B, they are far from powered gliders. You'll find your planes last ALOT longer in SSC than in Open B. You'll survive alot of midairs in SSC that would be fatal in Open B.

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