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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/5/2010 9:22 PM   
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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/5/2010 9:43 PM   
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I have finals until tuesday night so I don't have any time to devote to the boat at the moment... it makes me sad haha

maybe a bead of silicon with some swivel locks on the corners might work.

The problem, at least for me, it that my hatch isn't uniform along the edges. near the corners, the edges flair up a bit, so the hatch doesn't fit snugly against the boat anyways. Kinda makes me a little made because that is just bad manufacturing, but of well, I'm sure I can do something over the summer 

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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/6/2010 7:27 PM   
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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/6/2010 11:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		did a quick search, this is the type of tape I mean.  I used to use it for sub boxes (car subwoofer) and can easily get an air tight seal between raw wood and the speaker.  Mind you that is held down with 8 screws, tight.  But it may do the trick on the boat.  It would even seal the uneven gaps.  You may have to sand them so there are no sharp sudden changes.
 
Take pictures if you try.  keep us up to date.



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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/6/2010 11:42 PM   
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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/7/2010 4:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		That stuff wont work. The hull is only indented enough to hold the cover. Theres no room for that foam tape... It will bulge up and look dumb... Besides that, all the force fighting back... Mechanical fastener, high speed crash = cracked hull. Just a bad idea.

Just stick to hockey tape or risk the consequences.

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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/7/2010 4:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, well i've come up with an idea i'm going to try next week sometime.

Cover to entire inside of the boat and also the outside. Spray cooking oil (Pam) on the area that contacts the hull. Bead silicon insulation around the hull, enough to seal it with the boat. Then, press the hatch against the boat firmly so the silicon takes the shape of the hull. Let it sit for about 2 to 4 hours so the silicon sets on the hatch. Remove it hoping the cooking spray did its job and let the silicon set overnight to make sure its done. wipe the cooking oil off the boat and the silicone.

if all does well, the silicon should get a pretty good seal with the boat.

i'll let you know how it goes! 

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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/7/2010 3:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's good that you guys are thinking out of the box concerning the hatch seal. As far as I know, the only method that's worked real well with all sizes FE boats is still the hatch tape. The tape helps keep the hatch from blowing out in case of a spill.

Come to think of it . . . it's not really that cumbersome . . . taking out the tape to change the battery.
It just takes a few seconds to do it anyway.
Let us know if you guys find a better solutiion.


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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/7/2010 5:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I tried this method before... quite messy. Try with thin cling film instead of oil. Silicone on the hull, cling film on top, press the hatch on it, remove the hatch carefully (or leave it for a couple of hours, remove the film and you're ready...


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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/7/2010 11:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		basstronics, you make a good point about the cracked hull.  I don't have one of these so I can not look at it to decide.

Good luck with the silicone.



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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/8/2010 5:28 PM   
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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/8/2010 6:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I usually use clear Cellpack (a softer electrical tape), comes in 19 or 25mm. For hulls that are one color only, a good quality electrical tape (3M or similar) is excellent.


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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/8/2010 8:02 PM   
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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/8/2010 10:00 PM   
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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/10/2010 7:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just an FYI, I was on HobbyKing today looking at a few things and I kept getting pop ups for the items for a $1 or $2 less then the normal price, then I was looking at the small bolt, and got a pop up to buy it for only $109. It is $40 off, if you can get the same pop up that I did. It looks like they redid their website a little bit, and now it has pop ups for different messages too. Just thought I would share, in case anyone was looking to pick up this boat. It is still on back order, but it is still a really good price when they come back into stock. I will attach a screen shot of the web site with the pop up.




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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/10/2010 11:18 AM   
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@plane addict - you're talking about weatherstrips right? I think that's too big for the small recess on the hull.



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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/10/2010 10:08 PM   
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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/11/2010 6:55 AM   
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Just an FYI, I was on HobbyKing today looking at a few things and I kept getting pop ups for the items for a $1 or $2 less then the normal price, then I was looking at the small bolt, and got a pop up to buy it for only $109. It is $40 off, if you can get the same pop up that I did. It looks like they redid their website a little bit, and now it has pop ups for different messages too. Just thought I would share, in case anyone was looking to pick up this boat. It is still on back order, but it is still a really good price when they come back into stock. I will attach a screen shot of the web site with the pop up.




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Yeah, the same thing happened to me. Too bad the boat is on back order...$109 is a steal.

Those automated discount prompts come up on other items too. I just picked up some cheaper than cheap lipo packs. Less than $16 for 20C 5000mah 2S packs was too good to pass up. They are the same packs I bought a year ago for quite a bit more and I know they are good.

It's worth checking out to see what kind of discount pops up while looking at stuff.

(By the way guys, the popups work with my Firefox browser running adblock pro, so if you don't get a prompt right away, just wait around a bit - they probably won't get blocked by your browser).

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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/11/2010 8:10 AM   
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Yeah, the same thing happened to me. Too bad the boat is on back order...$109 is a steal.

Those automated discount prompts come up on other items too. I just picked up some cheaper than cheap lipo packs. Less than $16 for 20C 5000mah 2S packs was too good to pass up. They are the same packs I bought a year ago for quite a bit more and I know they are good.

It's worth checking out to see what kind of discount pops up while looking at stuff.

(By the way guys, the popups work with my Firefox browser running adblock pro, so if you don't get a prompt right away, just wait around a bit - they probably won't get blocked by your browser).


What 5000mah lipos were you able to get for $16? You said that you have some now, how do you like them? I am looking to get some Lipos for my supervee 27. Have you tried them in your supervee, and how do you like them?




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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/12/2010 5:29 AM   
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What 5000mah lipos were you able to get for $16? You said that you have some now, how do you like them? I am looking to get some Lipos for my supervee 27. Have you tried them in your supervee, and how do you like them?



They were Zippy 20C 5000mah packs. They have them right here:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8578&Product_Name=ZIPPY_Flightmax_5000mAh_2S1P_20C_

(Unfortunately they are now out of stock).

I have used these in my SV27, my Top Speed 2 tunnel hull brushless conversion and my Hammer Brushless surface drive conversion with good results. I know 20C is not a huge discharge rating, but with 5000mah capacity, that equates to 100amp discharge capacity (which is WAY more than enough for the SV27).

Now if only the Small Bolt gets back in stock. I like that pop-up discount stuff!

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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/12/2010 6:04 AM   
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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/12/2010 8:47 AM   
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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/12/2010 5:54 PM   
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Weight: .28oz (1/4oz) (7.8g)
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21/0z-in not to bad... I manually moved it, fairly easy... It fits right into the stock servo mount that why I got them. Hpwever due to it moving so easily, I dont think it will be strong enough. The servo that was in the boat didnt move that easy even...

Im going to return these servos instead of even trying them. Just better to bust out the old mount and place a slightly larger and much stronger servo in its place.

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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/12/2010 9:37 PM   
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Just better to bust out the old mount and place a slightly larger and much stronger servo in its place.


I completely agree. If I can make a suggestion, I would go for a metal geared servo. I got a 929MG corona servo and havn't had any problems with it yet. I had to rip out the old housing, but it is completely worth it in my opinion!



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RE: HK Small Bolt Hydro same as HOTR - 6/12/2010 11:42 PM   
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What 5000mah lipos were you able to get for $16? You said that you have some now, how do you like them? I am looking to get some Lipos for my supervee 27. Have you tried them in your supervee, and how do you like them?



They were Zippy 20C 5000mah packs. They have them right here:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8578&Product_Name=ZIPPY_Flightmax_5000mAh_2S1P_20C_

(Unfortunately they are now out of stock).

I have used these in my SV27, my Top Speed 2 tunnel hull brushless conversion and my Hammer Brushless surface drive conversion with good results. I know 20C is not a huge discharge rating, but with 5000mah capacity, that equates to 100amp discharge capacity (which is WAY more than enough for the SV27).

Now if only the Small Bolt gets back in stock. I like that pop-up discount stuff!



These lipos work for the stock sv? How did you run them,series..parallel?
Also, what other boats will these batteries work for? All stock of course. And what type of charger do you need? Im new to lipos...thanks for any info

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