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What do you guys think? - 7/21/2003 8:34:22 PM   
nickbooth


 

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Just wondered what you guys think about this link, looks good for a starting point. please let me know

[URL]http://www.pakatak.com/gadget/wirecam.htm[/URL]
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Re: What do you guys think? - 7/21/2003 11:43:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by nickbooth
Hi all

Just wondered what you guys think about this link, looks good for a starting point. please let me know

[URL]http://www.pakatak.com/gadget/wirecam.htm[/URL] [/QUOTE]
They dont list the power output or I missed it. You can do a lot better than that system for less if you dont mind operating on 1.2ghz.
Spylinker on Ebay has better systems for considerably less money. Search by seller for Spylinker.
My .02 cents...
Oh, I have two of his 800mw systems and plan on a third, my father has one and is planning on another.

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video stuff - 7/22/2003 1:08:30 AM   
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i feel honored the legendary 'Oh ****' man has replied to me in person. I have said those very words on many occasions including last week when I launched a fun fighter with a control line engine in. I seemed to have forgotten to actually turn the radio gear on as well....ooops it flew nicely for about a hundred yards.

anyway back to the topic and as you seem to be the man with the knowledge.
firstly these prices are really good, $25 for the whole lot wow
I am from the Uk and the only thing that worries me is the frequency, 1.2ghz I have searched for ages and cannot find out what is legal and what is not etc. I intend to use these systems plugged into my laptop with a usb tv adapter in place, so I can record straight to wmv files and not lose any more quality.
he also doesn't say whether they are ntsc or pal, or even if there is a difference, I don't suppose you know the answers to any of these questions do?

Thanks in advance

nick

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Re: video stuff - 7/22/2003 1:17:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by nickbooth
Hi

i feel honored the legendary 'Oh ****' man has replied to me in person. I have said those very words on many occasions including last week when I launched a fun fighter with a control line engine in. I seemed to have forgotten to actually turn the radio gear on as well....ooops it flew nicely for about a hundred yards.

anyway back to the topic and as you seem to be the man with the knowledge.
firstly these prices are really good, $25 for the whole lot wow
I am from the Uk and the only thing that worries me is the frequency, 1.2ghz I have searched for ages and cannot find out what is legal and what is not etc. I intend to use these systems plugged into my laptop with a usb tv adapter in place, so I can record straight to wmv files and not lose any more quality.
he also doesn't say whether they are ntsc or pal, or even if there is a difference, I don't suppose you know the answers to any of these questions do?

Thanks in advance

nick [/QUOTE]
Hehhehe.
Im gonna have to change my little comment above my avatar I think.
Well, Im in the US so I have no idea what freqs are legal for you to use in the UK. The systems I have purchased from him have been NTSC but since he is in Hong Kong, I would imagine he has PAL systems available. Try emailing him, I know he answers em from time to time. Checking on a listing he had for the 200mw system it said PAL and NTSC versions available. It doesnt say anything about that for the 800mw version tho as you said.
Good luck!

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which camera? - 7/25/2003 1:40:26 AM   
azi


 

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New to this forum, been checking out [url]www.pakatak.com[/url] and spylinker on ebay to compare prices etc. for the mini cameras.

Spylinker's stuff is cheap but he does add on a $25 shipping charge plus another $6 if you want the goods insured - there is also a customs charge that you have to pay when the goods arrive. The stuff is really cheap though! My concern is that after receiving the camera you will then have to purchase power supplies (approx £7-£8 each), batteries, av cable...... on top of all that you may have to wait up to 3 weeks for your camera.

Pakatak's kit includes all of the above (cam, receiver, 9v power supply, 12v power supply, av cable, battery and battery clip). I phoned them and they send stuff out same-day, so you receive it the day after ordering!!! They also said that they have many customers that use their cameras for RC purposes, which is good to hear. Plus, as they are in the UK it's easier to make contact should you have any problems or need any more info.

Anyway guys, let me know what you think........

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cameras - 7/25/2003 2:01:57 AM   
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i have been doing quite a bit of research into this since starting this post and have found it is illegal in the uk to broadcast at 1.2ghz with the cameras that spylinker sells.
infact that frequency is listed as military and civil aircraft so don't think I would even want to chance it. looks like it is going to be Pakatak cameras for me and just have to get a yagi aerial to increase the distance I am able to receive from

Thanks all

nick

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What do you guys think? - 7/25/2003 2:17:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]I am from the Uk and the only thing that worries me is the frequency, 1.2ghz I have searched for ages and cannot find out what is legal and what is not etc.[/quote]In the UK, licensed amateur radio operators can use the following wireless video frequencies:
1240-1260 Mhz, Max 50W ERP
1260-1270 Mhz, Max 50W ERP
1270-1325 Mhz, Max 50W ERP
2310-2400 Mhz, Max 50W ERP
2400-2450 Mhz, Max 50W ERP

Hams must ensure that they operate within the allotted frequencies, as well as follow the standard BR68/I regs.

Unlicensed operators (non-hams) may use:
2400-2483.5Mhz, Max 10mW EIRP

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Re: which camera? - 7/25/2003 7:35:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by azi
Hello guys,

New to this forum, been checking out [url]www.pakatak.com[/url] and spylinker on ebay to compare prices etc. for the mini cameras.

Spylinker's stuff is cheap but he does add on a $25 shipping charge plus another $6 if you want the goods insured - there is also a customs charge that you have to pay when the goods arrive. The stuff is really cheap though! My concern is that after receiving the camera you will then have to purchase power supplies (approx £7-£8 each), batteries, av cable...... on top of all that you may have to wait up to 3 weeks for your camera.

Pakatak's kit includes all of the above (cam, receiver, 9v power supply, 12v power supply, av cable, battery and battery clip). I phoned them and they send stuff out same-day, so you receive it the day after ordering!!! They also said that they have many customers that use their cameras for RC purposes, which is good to hear. Plus, as they are in the UK it's easier to make contact should you have any problems or need any more info.

Anyway guys, let me know what you think........ [/QUOTE]
This is a moot point after reading about the freq legalities in the UK but as far as 9v and 12v power supplies, why would you need those if you are going to use the system at the field? 9v battery on the plane, power the rx off your flightbox battery, car battery or whatever you are using for your starter/pack charging. Other than that, you get everything you need with the Spylinker system but the batteries.
As far as the customs aspect, dont have to do that here in the States.
Oh, I got both my systems within 2 weeks of ordering em.
Soooooo.... Good luck with whatever you guys get and lets see the results!

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RE: http://www.pakatak.com/ - 7/25/2003 5:54:26 PM   
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www.pakatak.com - 7/26/2003 1:05:33 AM   
azi


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for all your input guys.

Think I will go with a cam from Pakatak. I was unsure so I phoned them again to ask a few more questions.
Agree the range could be a bit of a problem but [url]www.pakatak.com[/url] have a lightweight long range transmitter that apparently will be on the website in the next few days. This transmitter can send the cameras' picture approx 700 metres back to the receiver.
Could be well worth a look.........

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Re: www.pakatak.com - 7/26/2003 7:57:45 AM   
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Thanks for all your input guys.

Think I will go with a cam from Pakatak. I was unsure so I phoned them again to ask a few more questions.
Agree the range could be a bit of a problem but [url]www.pakatak.com[/url] have a lightweight long range transmitter that apparently will be on the website in the next few days. This transmitter can send the cameras' picture approx 700 metres back to the receiver.
Could be well worth a look......... [/QUOTE]
Easiest way to increase the range a bit is to mount the entire rx up on as tall a mast as you can. The range is better if the tx antenna is pointed downwards also but that is a bit hard to do with that particular type of camera without dismantling the thing and flipping the guts around. It can be done but its a ****. Advantage of the separate tx is being able to mount it so the antenna points wherever you want it. Too bad its not on a freq you can use!
Is the upcoming system another all-in-one or a "Spylinker" type setup?

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www.pakatak.com long range tx - 7/26/2003 2:34:02 PM   
azi


 

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It should be on their site in the next few days though.

What are your thoughts on mounting this tx unit on plane with the camera? No need for any more "on the ground" equipment.

Forgot to ask about price too I would imagine this type of unit to be fairly expensive????

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Re: www.pakatak.com long range tx - 7/27/2003 2:07:49 AM   
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Not completely sure.........
It should be on their site in the next few days though.

What are your thoughts on mounting this tx unit on plane with the camera? No need for any more "on the ground" equipment.

Forgot to ask about price too I would imagine this type of unit to be fairly expensive???? [/QUOTE]
Not sure what you mean by this.
On all my systems, the tx and CMOS camera are airborne. The ground equip consists of the rx, something to power the rx and whatever is being used to record or view the video downlink.
This is the setup mounted on a slope glider:

The airborne equip consists of the camera, tx, battery, and the wiring. Its just taped to the top of the plane with an EPPshock/glare shield holding the camera and velcroed to the nose.
The 800mw 1.2ghz system I got from Spylinker costs about $25 plus $25 shipping and whatever customs fees I hear you need to pay there in the UK. Dont have customs fees here in the US on this stuff. I say about $25 because it varies from $23.88 to $25.99 depending on availability or the whims of Spylinker.

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What do you guys think? - 7/27/2003 2:14:20 AM   
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That was the wrong picture. That is a Spylinker system that I modified by rewiring it. I didnt want the RCA plugs and wanted to be able to put the system on different planes. I moved the voltage regulator in closer to the camera and used Deans Plugs so that I could make up various lengths wire depending on what I was mounting the system on.
I just shove the camera into the little balsa box on that cowling and tape everything else to the plane so it will balance.
The proper picture should have been:

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What do you guys think? - 7/27/2003 3:44:47 PM   
azi


 

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RE: What do you guys think? - 9/17/2003 10:56:55 PM   
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