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Twin-engine warbird query - 7/12/2010 11:50 PM   
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Looking for a "smallish" twin-engine warbird. Something in the .40 size or so. Would like to use a couple Saito .72s

Doesn't seem to be a big market.

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 7/13/2010 5:49 AM   
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I just saw the B26 on the Easy Tiger website, it looks good, but I don't want that size of plane these days.
The Hangar 9 B25 is an excellent model, you can't go wrong.
I saw a ASM P-61 at a meet last weekend, it flew good.
I had a VQ models A-26, run away from that, it was a disaster.
I think that's about the only twins in that size, but maybe others know more.


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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 7/13/2010 8:45 AM   
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Top Flite also has a B25 for 72 four strokes

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 7/13/2010 10:02 AM   
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The TopFlite B-25 would be better off with .82 to 91 4 strokes.

For .72 4 strokes, the H9 B-25 is the best bet......BUT...there is also the CMP Mosquito.
http://www.nitroplanes.com/mosquito.html

Easytigermodels has an ME-110 at 72" wingspan that could take two .72s also
http://easytigermodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=19&zenid=7b525484dd4ced45212497660f892d07



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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 7/13/2010 3:07 PM   
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Messerschmitt Me-110 Twin With Retracts seems the best so far. Damn, it looks pretty nice. I wish it cost 350 dollars and not 500.

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 7/13/2010 6:05 PM   
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I have the 96" KMP Bf-110 and it is a sweet flying plane with two Saito 100's at 22 pounds. I have seed the Don Smith Bf-110 at 118" fly on rails.

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 7/13/2010 6:53 PM   
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World Models sells a .40 size F-82 Twin Mustang that flies well. Check out Airborne Models in Livermore, CA. They have a website. I have experienced good customer service from them.

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 7/13/2010 9:26 PM   
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I also have the ESM 95" ME-110. Two saito 72's are too small for it, but two 91's would fly it decent enough. It costs $419 ...less then the smaller 72" Easytiger...but not with retracts...thats another $199.
http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items/ESMBF110C-95.html
Specs list two 91 4 strokes.

I also forgot about the 83" ESM Tigercat. Spec's list 91 size 4 strokes, but with an 83" wingspan, im not sure thats required since the much larger ME-110 specs list the same motors. You'd want to read threads about it first to see what others have used successfully.
http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items/ESMTIGERCAT83.html

In any case...if your using two glow motors, they both MUST have onboard glow. Id also recommend either having the onboard glow on ALL the time to prevent a motor quitting in flight or use a twinsynce device. Some ppl use a gyro on the rudder instead of a twinsync, but the gyro only effects the rudder in case an engine dies, the twinsync monitors both engines and if one dies, it'll automatically dial the running engine back to idle to prevent the plane from being pulled into a spin due to asymetric thrust

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 7/14/2010 4:11 AM   
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How bout a Royal B-25 kit ...oh gosh i said the "K" word didn't I?

It's a great for your application as it was designed around .40 2 strokes with a 76" wingspan.

Very scale and you would get serious props from the scale guys at your field. They don't make them anymore, but there are lots to be found on RCU or Ebay. You can get plans, cowls and canopy on Ebay as well.

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 7/15/2010 9:26 PM   
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BH Models B-25 Mitchell EP/G Twin is a possibility. Smallish. Light.
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/159552.asp




I imagine 2 Saito .40's would give it scale performance.


BH also makes a Mossie

http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/159550.asp

Says EP but I've converted Electric-to-Glow on a couple planes already.

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/4/2013 7:18 AM   
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Now that I am re-visting this topic, most of the links are dead. It's a shame that there's not a P-38 available anymore. That's closer to my definition of a warbird than a bomber...

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/4/2013 8:12 AM   
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yeah, dead end links are always a bummer....makes me wonder what I missed Agreed on the P-38

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/4/2013 10:55 AM   
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I wish Top Flite would do one for a pair of DLE 20's. I'm working on their big P-47 and am very impressed with their engineering!

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/5/2013 3:53 AM   
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Now that I am re-visting this topic, most of the links are dead. It's a shame that there's not a P-38 available anymore. That's closer to my definition of a warbird than a bomber...



P38's dont fly well with one engine out. I would go electric if i wanted a p38. Gas maybe, glow no way...

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/5/2013 4:42 AM   
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I haven't had a saito dead stick in years...

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/5/2013 2:10 PM   
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Im surprised no one mentioned the CMP mosquito. Its perfect for two saito .72s. I have this plane and installed two saito 91s and the plane is a rocket ship. Nitreoplanes still has them. However, they arent as cheap as they usedw to be. When I got mine from them last year, the plane only costed $199.
http://www.nitroplanes.com/demotw2573en.html

With .91's as seen in this pic of mine next to a friends with .46 2 strokes...theres a decent space between the spinner backplate and firewalls, but a 72 should work nicely.

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/5/2013 3:42 PM   
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Im surprised no one mentioned the CMP mosquito. Its perfect for two saito .72s. I have this plane and installed two saito 91s and the plane is a rocket ship. Nitreoplanes still has them. However, they arent as cheap as they usedw to be. When I got mine from them last year, the plane only costed $199.
http://www.nitroplanes.com/demotw2573en.html

With .91's as seen in this pic of mine next to a friends with .46 2 strokes...theres a decent space between the spinner backplate and firewalls, but a 72 should work nicely.



I was following your build on the 60-page long DeHavilland Mosquito thread. You stopped posting over there...it saddened me!

400 bucks at Nitroplanes, but still $210 at Raidentech with coupon code pickle1088

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/5/2013 4:55 PM   
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Top Flite DC-3 kit is also another great choice, if you like building. Good Luck, Dave


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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/5/2013 11:30 PM   
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One problem I might run across is the nacelle-to-fuselage distance needs to be to at least accommodate a 12" prop. Will probably use 12x8 three blades for the Saito 72.

Was going to dip my toes into twin-engine with the Hobbico Twinstar but I do not think the 72's will fit.

The DC-3 would be lovely.



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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/6/2013 12:39 AM   
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Im surprised no one mentioned the CMP mosquito. Its perfect for two saito .72s. I have this plane and installed two saito 91s and the plane is a rocket ship. Nitreoplanes still has them. However, they arent as cheap as they usedw to be. When I got mine from them last year, the plane only costed $199.
http://www.nitroplanes.com/demotw2573en.html

With .91's as seen in this pic of mine next to a friends with .46 2 strokes...theres a decent space between the spinner backplate and firewalls, but a 72 should work nicely.

You actually got that thing flown?

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/6/2013 1:56 AM   
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Yeah. Ive flown it 3 times. Did a nice formation type flight with Chris's esm B-25. Like scale, my cmp mossie was quite a bit faster then his b-25, but together in close formation...they really looked good.



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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/6/2013 2:04 AM   
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One problem I might run across is the nacelle-to-fuselage distance needs to be to at least accommodate a 12'' prop. Will probably use 12x8 three blades for the Saito 72.

Was going to dip my toes into twin-engine with the Hobbico Twinstar but I do not think the 72's will fit.

The DC-3 would be lovely.



Ive got 13x8 3 blade props on my mossie. Due to the length of the .91's, I just had enough clearance to fit them, however, a saito 72 with 12x8x3's would fit no problems.

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/6/2013 2:05 AM   
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I have the Twinstar and am flying on 2 os .25's. The 72's may be a bit much power imho. But then my cousin would say put some 91's on that bad boy lol.

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/6/2013 2:14 AM   
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If you're going to do a twin...come on man, you gotta do a military plane.

To be quite honest...the hangar 9 b-25 would be absolutely perfect for twin .72's. A nice 80" wingspan with pretty scale looks. Also, the BH A-26 is a nice looking plane and designed for .52 4-strokes. 72.s would also work quite well, though Id paint the plane black.
http://www.hobbypeople.net/index.php/a-26k-counter-invader-twin-52-ep-gp-w-hatchand-tip-tanks.html#

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RE: Twin-engine warbird query - 1/6/2013 2:48 AM   
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An nice old man at my club has had the TF B-25 for 3 years and all he's done is hinge the surfaces so far. He also bought the Robart retract set for it. He probably has 1000 or more dollars in those two items alone. He wants to sell it to me, but we'll see what he'll take for it.

If it's too much, I will buy the CMP Mosquito and try to fit some HK electric retracts with some robo struts I have.

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