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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/24/2012 9:21 PM   
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/24/2012 10:56 PM   
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I need bottles as small as 8 oz. though and don't think? Fiji's come that small.

Fortitude makes an 8oz ready to go. Although, I found 8oz to not give me quite as much flight time as I wanted with my Focke Wulfe and replaced it with the next size a 16 oz. Probably way more than I need now.

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/24/2012 11:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		>>> Use a Hayes tank, Ernie. Under 6 bucks complete at our LHS. >>>

Now I like that idea Mike, thanks. The Hayes tank stopper is good for glow or gas apparently? What about the clunk line that comes with the Hayes tank? Replace it with Viton type gas line? Will the gas type fuel line seal adequately on the small glow sized barb they provide for the clunk line????

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/24/2012 11:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dubro 16oz tank, solder on barbs, sta flex fuel line from K&S, viton on the cluck line for flexibility.. we don't do fancy here, just dependable. And I use Wal-mart oil....

That'll get em started....

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 12:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Replace the neoprene line that comes with the tank with small tygon or viton, whichever you like. The rest of the tank tolerates gas just fine, including the o-ring on the stopper. The Hayes tanks have served me well with glow, gas and kerosene.


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 1:40 AM  1 votes
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Dubro 16oz tank, solder on barbs, sta flex fuel line from K&S, viton on the cluck line for flexibility.. we don't do fancy here, just dependable. And I use Wal-mart oil....

That'll get em started....


I got tired of carting all that extra fuel around, but the rest of your setup, including your oil (if that's where I was when I needed some last), can be found in any of my gassers... for the same reason!


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 2:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		You do know...the tank doesn't have to be filled? Actually it's strapped under the wing on the CG of a Mojo right there in plain sight.. Very handy to come down on a low pass and see how much fuel is left. I'm in the process of mounting an identical tank on the other side for smoke. I like flying for 30 minutes or so.

I recently sold the airframe another DLE 20 was used on. Debating whether to buy another airframe or sell it.

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 2:30 AM   
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Use a Hayes tank, Ernie. Under 6 bucks complete at our LHS.



Hayes tank have pretty cheap price as even compared to Dubro, wow

16 oz is $3.69 can't beat it, don't know bout shipping thought

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 2:34 AM   
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One question I'd like to ask. What line do you use inside the fuel tank? I was using Tygon and my LHS guy told me use some black line tubing for the fuel tank's inside since fuel would ultimately get the fuel line brittle after a while. I don't know what that black tubing line is called. Any idea what y'all use?

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 3:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Black tubing is usually neoprene, but you can't always count on it. Neoprene resists gas for only a short period of time compared to tygon. I've never used viton, as I've always been satisfied with tygon. Around here, tygon is incredibly easy to find, which is more than can be said for viton. Avoid using any tubing that came with a kit / ARF. Fuel line is one more thing on the long list of things the Chinese can't be fully trusted to have figured out yet. Stick with the known-quantities. Besides, tygon is cheap and has an excellent track-record. Why screw around? It's very rare that I have a problem related to a fuel tank, but when I do, it invariably drives me nuts because tank issues are usually mistaken for other problems. (Other than leaks, of course) If all else fails, find the guy at your field that never seems to have problems (he's the guy that flies the most) and find out what he's using. Copy his set-up until you gain enough experience to think you know better. After a few choice screw-ups, you WILL learn.


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 3:13 AM   
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Doesn't Tygon get brittle after a while? (two seasons?) I thought that was the advantage of neoprene. Do you change your fuel lines every couple of years as part of maintenance?

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 3:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Viton is the way to go inside the tank at least. Much more flexible than similar sized Tygon. Outside the tank I like to use something clear to view whats going on. The clear tubing from K&S works good. Yes it gets stiff, but I haven't seen that as a serious problem. I jsut removed some that was in use for about 2 years, just sold the airframe. Fuel lines were fine.

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 3:22 AM   
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Thanks the black tubing is neoprene and the guy at my LHS who happens to be the president of one of the local club here, he told me to use neoprene since it does not get brittle and your statement seems to contradict him which I'm sure you are telling cos of your experiences and I respect that. I'm just a NOOB here when it comes to gas and I yet to fly my plane but Thank GOD I've got a plane with DLE20 on it. Now your statement makes me wonder to replace the neoprene with tygon and throw away the neoprene. So the life span of tygon is better than neoprene?

As far as my club is concerned a lot of members have been thinning out for couple of years, I don't know why and few people I come across see them flying. Gas fliers are mostly evening fliers since one of them has stopped coming to the field or have found out another club, the other one has not been shown up lately and mostly guys fly are glow guys. So my club ain't much helpful when it comes to Gassers, that's why I try to get more and more data over here

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 3:24 AM   
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 3:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Armody - Have you looked around for another club nearby that has more of a gasser crowd? I belong to four clubs, and each has it's own mix of planes and characters.

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 3:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I assembled the tank in my GS P-47 (DLE55) over 3 years ago. It's never been opened since and the clunk line is still as flexible as it should be. And I DON'T drain the tank at the end of the day. It gets flown year-round. I have seen tygon get very stiff, though not actually brittle. This was tubing that was outside of the tank, though. Never seen a clunk line stiffen, but it could happen, I suppose. I don't claim to be any kind of expert, I'm simply relating my experiences. You have my sympathy, however, as when I started flying gas, our field was crawling with knowledgeable gas-flyers and still is. Jody even took the time to give me my first lesson at the field on tuning my new DLE55 after he and Tom brought it to me at the field the week before. Guess you could say I couldn't have gotten off to a better start. Prior to that, I used what seemed like miles of tygon in my turbine-powered stuff and never had problems with it there, either. I do replace the tygon and festo fuel lines on my jets once a year, just because jets make such a God-awful mess when something goes badly wrong. I can crash several gassers for what one jet crash would cost.


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 4:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		rcguy - thanks for the info. Good to know Tygon can last a few seasons without getting brittle. I'm nowhere near owning a jet (above my current pay grade!) but I do love watching them. They have a few at my Brooklyn club at Floyd Bennett Field. Amazing machines - they go vertical and never slow down! What power. And at upwards of $20k a pop, I guess it's worth a little extra maintenance.

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 4:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mine aren't that expensive, but none are what I'd call cheap. Lately though, I've been having a lot more fun with big gas warbirds. Less hassle and a lot less "pucker factor" than a jet. When you buy tygon, make sure it says "tygon" on the tubing itself. I've run into knock-off tubing that's the same color and feel, but isn't genuine tygon. Maybe that's the source of some of the conflicting experiences guys have. I live across the street from a Stihl dealer and he carries the real stuff as does the LHS.


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 5:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice collection of warbirds there! There must be different qualities of Tygon like you said. Many have said it got stiff on them inside of the tank.

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 6:35 AM   
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What about this tygon? Is it good and right for Gasser?

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 6:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's what my LHS sells. Last time I bought DuBro tygon it was GENUINE tygon. Says so right on the tubing. Good stuff. Buy a roll and share a little with your buddies. I've found that when I have a whole roll, I don't hesitate to replace a piece that's questionable.


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 7:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		I use Tygon exclusively, inside and out of the tank. My problems with Tygon are how much of a pain it is to get my fuel dot off of my fill line. I sometimes use a short section of viton or neoprene here to make this easier. One of the tricks as mentioned is to leave a little gas in the tank. It keeps the tygon klunk line flexible.
Keep in mind not all planes are the same. Many warbirds have the tank buried in the fuselage and are a little bit more tricky to get to to service than a profile 3D type model that you can visually inspect easily. There is nothing worse than finding out about a tank problem by seeing fuel streaming out of the fuselage while filling!


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 12:43 PM   
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thay have  Vinton   /   Tygon    @ .80 ft     1/8   brass  T   and you can get differnt wall thick  !!!!    

 purty much  any type or sise  of  tubing you would ever need !!!

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RE: DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 10:19 PM   
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 12/25/2012 10:35 PM   
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I work , in small engines , ( I,m no pro ) , and fix many . The best , which I use , inside the tank , is the fuel line from , " HONDA " weed eaters ( weed /trimmers ) , the 4 cycle one,s . I have some that are still beening used , thats " 6 years ago " . They are extremly flexble , and keep the flexability for years . Some of the other small egines are also good , Stihl , Husvarna , Echo , and so on . ( I am speaking about the inside gasline )

I tryed viton and found it to be too stiff , but , does last a long time . If you,ll use the Honda one,s ,................... you,ll never look back .

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