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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/20/2010 2:58 PM   
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/20/2010 5:56 PM   
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I am just hoping to fit everything inside the cowl. This smaller engine looks to have alot of spunk and i think I will be able to fit everything inside. Hope to cut one hole and that is for the exhaust exit hole and maybe a small one for the plug wire cap.

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/20/2010 9:14 PM   
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Wow that little engine was throwing that plane all over the place. I LMAO when Jody was flipping the plane end over end.


What is that end over end manoeuvre that Jody was doing called.

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/20/2010 9:39 PM   
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Over-g... just remember to allow about three times more air exit than intake to a cowl to adequately cool the engine and avoid pressure issues that upset the carb metering.

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/20/2010 9:51 PM   
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Wow that little engine was throwing that plane all over the place. I LMAO when Jody was flipping the plane end over end.


What is that end over end maneuver that Jody was doing called.

Karol


I think it was to see if a end over end maneuver could kill the engine....well it sure did not kill the engine.   A good test to see what effects such a maneuver would have on the DLE20 engine.   Besides that...looks like a lot of fun!!!!   Capt,n

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/20/2010 10:55 PM   
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Today i've received mine for test purposes.
Side by side with a DLE30 it seems a very small engine.
And is lighter than the OS 120AX !!!!! (both with stock muffler) but i'm thinking in the tank size for this DLE20 ..... and for the AX .....




Are you going to put the test on YouTube?    Thanks  Capt,n



Yes , this week-end i will test my unit.

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/20/2010 11:52 PM   
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Over-g... just remember to allow about three times more air exit than intake to a cowl to adequately cool the engine and avoid pressure issues that upset the carb metering.



Roger that AA5BY. I always cut a fairly large hole for the exhaust and the Jug has a decent opening all the way around between the fusalage and cowl. Thanks for the info, always appreciated

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/20/2010 11:55 PM   
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What oil ratio is required for this puppy?  Would Pennzoil at 40:1 be good enough, or does it require tons of oil (like the Saito FG's)?

PSI'm not starting an oil discussion, I just meant it as an example.


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/20/2010 11:57 PM   
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It uses the same oil ratio as the DLE30

Break in Pennzoil 32:1 . . . . .


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 12:07 AM   
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ooks llllike a must have replacement for my 20cc rcgf / aerovatt ..... damm. When are they gonna be ready?

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 12:12 AM   
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Good to hear.  I wanted the Magnum .52G until I found out it required high oil ratios.  I just want to carry around one can of gas.



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It uses the same oil ratio as the DLE30

Break in Pennzoil 32:1 . . . . .




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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 12:46 AM   
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Good to hear.  I wanted the Magnum .52G until I found out it required high oil ratios.  I just want to carry around one can of gas


If you are like me you still have two cans of gas. One with breakin gas and one with everyday gas.


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 12:53 AM   
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Well, that might end up being the case...but keeping one "set" of mixtures (32:1 and 40:1) would still be easier than keeping two "sets" of mixtures (4 cans total).  I'm hoping to be able to rid my dad of his glow fuel habit.  Also, I'd only keep a 1Gal jug of break-in as opposed to my 2Gal jug of regular stuff.  Right now I've only got one gasser (DLE55), but if that number starts rising I might have to get a 5Gal jug.  If the DLE20's are priced well, I might need to look for a 5Gal jug and keep my 2Gal as break-in fuel.

I'm setting up my girlfriend's 40-sized trainer as electric right now, I can't wait to get both my dad and I completely out of glow!!


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 12:56 AM   
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The DLE20 has roller bearings on both ends of the connecting rod but, it spins a relatively large prop for it's size at pretty high RPM compared to it's big brothers and even though the big end of the rod is directly in front of the reeds, high RPMs can reduce the amount of oil exchange through the bearing.

I strongly recommend following DLE's oil ratio recommendations which will be, as in all their engines 30/32:1 minimum no matter what oil you choose to use. I run 32:1 in everything all the time.

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 1:43 AM   
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DLE knows what works..Oil experts might want to follow suit.....

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 3:58 AM   
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OK...for those wiz- kids, if a person takes 4 oz of oil & mixes it to 9/10 (.90) of a gallon of gas...what ratio do you end up with?   Capt.n

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 4:05 AM   
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about 28:1 ??


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 4:13 AM   
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Watching this closely. I also need a replacement for my rcgf 20cc.
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 4:26 AM   
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about 28:1 ??



How about 4oz oil to .95 gallon of gas?   Capt,n   I use that most the time!!!!

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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 5:06 AM   
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I strongly recommend following DLE's oil ratio recommendations which will be, as in all their engines 30/32:1 minimum no matter what oil you choose to use. I run 32:1 in everything all the time.


Jody, can we organize a movement to copy/paste this into every oil/mixture jihad that comes up in the future?  




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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 7:17 AM   
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Hi Mr.Jody,
My name is Michael chow, JBA model engine company,  I met Mr. Tom in Beijing model fair this year, and Mr.Tom imported J15G from my company, did you do any test for J15G.
thanks!
michael


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 7:20 AM   
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Hi Jody,
My friend made some vedio of J15G, and try to re-made the J15G to install on Align600N. please visit the website.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3NjgxMjQ0.html

  http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3NjkzNzI4.html

  http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3Njk5MDEy.html

  http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3NzEzODI0.html
  http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3NzA1MTQ0.html
maybe you can give me any advice.
thanks!
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 9:05 AM   
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W8YE, Thank you so much for all your great and thought out answers! I always read your comments and also follow them closely, Always a pleasure! Yes 32/1 sounds right to me, I have heard some say 100/1 50/1 just does not sound right to me! oil is oil some better then others but an engine does not care if its good or great oil but it does care if there is enough to lube it proper! An improper lubed engine will fail! All my engines ice auger weedeaters etc, get 32/1





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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 9:29 AM   
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I'm a 32:1 man myself in everything except my gas Saitos and they are 20:1


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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post) - 7/21/2010 9:36 AM   
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No gas Saito's yet, but if when, I will keep that in mind! Thanks!






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