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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 10/23/2012 2:56 AM   
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Slap the Rimfire 65cc equivalent and be done with it! You could turn a rather scale sized prop as well

Of course, this would mean that you would have to do without anything hanging out......lol

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 10/23/2012 3:54 AM   
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Slap the Rimfire 65cc equivalent and be done with it! You could turn a rather scale sized prop as well

Of course, this would mean that you would have to do without anything hanging out......lol

Casey


how bout the nose weight I will need?
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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 10/23/2012 4:31 AM   
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Thats a tough one one to solve having to fit an engine inside of 216mm/8.5".
Even a Saito FG 57 is 9" across.
Going electric you can move the Lipos all the way forward for balast. You will want to use a 10 cell set up minimum. You can also use a Solo Prop now that they offer FW profile blades. You can dial in the peak amp load this way.

Another option might be the OS boxer 4 cylinder its a 300 size engine so its close to whats needed perhaps. It would sound nice as well.

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 10/23/2012 4:41 AM   
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I know Chris,

that's why I'm thinking about the XYZ 53cc.

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 10/23/2012 4:47 AM   
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I see, thats a tight fit! Once the plug caps are on here you can fit a playing card between the cap and cowl!

It might be better to start building planes around engines just so you know what fits! Then its good luck finding he other things like cockpits and pilots and retracts etc.

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 10/23/2012 10:12 AM   
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Hi Jose

I was wondering what happened to the Moki G360 idea you had previously?

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 10/23/2012 4:37 PM   
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I am installing a G62 in my 1/5th TA 152. It has very little exposed. Just the plag cap mainly. Mounted inverted it is a good option I believe. I am also installing a can muffler that will be inside the fuse, and have the 90 degree manifold that lays the carb on the side of the engine. Very tight profile.

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 11/15/2012 1:23 AM   
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Erans, well it was very difficult to get Any communication with Moki in Hungary, even though I think the Moki is good quality. ALso the cooling was going to be more complicated. The rear cilynder going behind the cowl, does not have a good exit for the hot air.
The flat engine XYZ, fits completely inside the cowl, so I would like to see how it performes, doing research at the moment. The last resort would be the DLE 55RA
http://www.dle-engines.com/dleg0455.html
Is the shortest stroke 55cc with the rear carb/exhaust. It will stick out a little bit though.

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 11/15/2012 1:26 AM   
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wings and retratcs have a nice fit. WIng fits the fuse. A few small revisions to the plans and next will be to fliteskin the wings.

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 11/15/2012 1:38 AM   
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Get the DLE 55RA at least to test fly the plane and so people can see it doesnt need a special engine. Its very compact but a little will stick out. I thought about painting mine with hi temp black paint to help hide it.

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 11/29/2012 1:39 AM   
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Yes Chris, the 55RA is a serious candidate now, still waiting for Hangar 9 to send me 3 view dimensions......

The webbing of the wing is very tedious and back breaking chore, because they are 20 ribs per side and double webbing to the 13th rib, so I drew them all for lasercut and be part of the wood kit, I'm sure builders would really appreciate that

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/17/2012 5:36 AM   
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Christmas is almost here, it's about time I finish these wings!@
I sheeted both tops of the wings in about 2 evenings and next week will do the bottoms.

I'm using Gorilla glue that gives me about 20 minutes to work, while I position the skins and pin the LE of the wing.
Steps:
1. Position the skin over the wing, pin in 2 or 3 locations on the spar and draw the edges with a sharpie. I overlap the L.E. 1/4 inch or so. Also I mark with dash lines the location of the ribs, spars and stringers.

2. I cut the skins to match, turn upside down over the building board and sand with coarse 100 grit, where the ribs and spars will make contact. Specially the LE and TE.
3. Provided the ribs and spars are all sanded straight, I start applying small bids of Gorilla glue over ribs, spars and at last LE and TE. It's easy to put too much, this stuff really expands, so I make sure I make thin layers.
4. Now I can place the skin over the structure using the 2 pins or thum tucks as guide, (you only really need 2) I put a sheet of wax paper on top of the sheeted wing.
5. Next I place all the magazines and soft cover books along the wing in making sure the skin is contacting the structure. The good thing about polyurethane glue is that when it expands, will fill small imperfections and joints.
6. Then I start pining the L. E. of the wing at 3 or 4 points and filling in until there is no more room between them. I use a whole jar!
7. To make sure the trailing edge dries straight, I clamp a ruler or sanding tee along the edge.

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/18/2012 3:46 AM   
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http://www.kingslynnmodelshop.co.uk/p5783/DLE-55RA_Rear_Exhaust_Petrol_Engine_(New_In)/product_info.html

Here is a link to the engine dimensions, iPad wont allow m to post image, lol

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/18/2012 3:58 AM   
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Man I do love that Fliteskin! Makes for such a strong and light structure. I love the effect it has on the skins final look as well. Looking forward to seeing this one Jose!

Casey

By the way, John mentioned something about a trip to the desert for some maidens...did he mention it to you?

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/18/2012 4:07 AM   
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Thank you Casey, I really want to get this one ready for spring, running a bit behind schedule now. Next I'll build the horizontal/elevator group.
Chris, I did not find the dimensions on the link you posted.

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/18/2012 9:14 PM   
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Any chance you have the super charger intake available a a spare part?

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/18/2012 10:54 PM   
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Any chance you have the super charger intake available a a spare part?


Let me know when you need it and we'll make one for ya.
Also we'll be making gun hood, canopy frame and possibly gear doors.

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/19/2012 5:51 AM   
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Sounds great. I really like the way yours looks.

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/24/2012 1:53 AM   
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http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=11330347

This thread has all the info on the DLE 55RA

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/24/2012 4:57 AM   
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Thank you Chris

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/24/2012 9:29 AM   
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Very very nice
I would use a Laser 300V i this one, or better a Geared Laser300 and a scale propeller

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/25/2012 4:09 AM   
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Very very nice
I would use a Laser 300V i this one, or better a Geared Laser300 and a scale propeller



I would gladly except a Laser 300 for Christmas!!



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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/25/2012 5:15 AM   
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Merry Christmas Jose!

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/25/2012 5:49 AM   
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Merry Christmas Casey for you and your family! It's Xmas eve and I'm trying to post some pics of the build!
The wings are coming out very nice and the stab and elevators are half way done. The Hitec wing servos for the ailerons have arrived too and they fit is perfect. Looking nice

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RE: Fliteskin Ta-152 H1 - 12/25/2012 12:06 PM   
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Merry Christmas Jose, Casey.

It is looking great Jose, from what I have seen so far this must be up there in the detail and engineering of the wood packs of your "kits".
It is so pretty it is almost a shame to cover, and then, your Flitskin work always come out stunning.
Keep it coming,

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