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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/22/2012 7:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Absolutely correct mate! They may ship to Canada, not sure if not Fox send me a PM and we can work something out.
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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/26/2012 4:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just finished the first batch of 1/3th scale turnbuckles. I have now 40 German and 40 British style available. Price for these are $6,00 each with a minimum of 5 incl. postage worldwide. So if interested send me a Pm or Email.



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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/26/2012 5:52 PM   
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Your t/b look great!
I just received my 100 pc order for 1/2 scale t/b's from my buddy Martin.....
We both agree that you are nuts! LOL!!
You are truly doing a great service to people that have no other option than buying dubros or making there own!

I will need some of those CRAFT Werks T/B for the HPA Camel and I surely need them for all my Axis planes....
I will send you a PM order......

Thanks for "stepping up" when the rest of us couldn't..............


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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/26/2012 8:41 PM   
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It's an honor to make some turnbuckles for the HPA.

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What are you going to do with a Camel? Let it flown by a friend so you could chase it with your own Fokkers

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/27/2012 12:54 PM   
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Thanks Paul

It's an honor to make some turnbuckles for the HPA.

P.s.

What are you going to do with a Camel? Let it flown by a friend so you could chase it with your own Fokkers



Teus,
Remember Tim's Camel back in the day?.........Captured!!
There's nothing sweeter than beating your enemy with there own weapon! LOL!

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/27/2012 4:10 PM   
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Captured!!

There's nothing sweeter than beating your enemy with there own weapon! LOL!





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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/28/2012 7:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have got several questions regarding the use of thimbles in combination with the 1/3rd scale versions;

I drill standard a 2.5mm hole in the eye end to hold some "flesh" at the eye end. But the McMaster carr thimbles are almost 3mm. The solution I use is that I flatten the thimble to 2,2mm in a vice so it fits clearly thru the 2,5mm hole. I am using them this way in combination with 1mm 7x7 stainless steel cable.

It is possible to drill the hole to 3mm but then the walls of the eye end are thin (around 1mm).

Another possible solution is that I make the eye ends from 6mm stock instead of 5mm so that there is more "flesh" around the 3mm hole.

Any suggestions?

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/28/2012 11:12 PM   
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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/29/2012 8:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		No no pull test, I don't have the tools to do that, but I think you are right it will hold the tension. But every hole must be exact centre

Just made a 6mm version for the head with a 3.3mm hole. Looks much better but due to tools I use much more time involved to make and more expensive material

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/29/2012 11:37 PM   
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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/29/2012 11:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		 While on the subject of Turmbuckles and related items I have question.  Is there a standard way to safety wire the turnbuckles so they do not come unscrewed?  if so i would like to know how it should be done.
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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/30/2012 4:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		here is a link to correct way to safety wire turnbuckles, i use the single method with no issues
http://www.experimentalaircraft.info/articles/aircraft-building-5.php

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/30/2012 9:12 AM   
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I really like the idea of being able to use the thimbles. I think It's worth some fiddling around to make them work.



I also. With the 5mm 1/3rd scale version I make right now it is no problem to use them, but you have to flatten the the thimble first to fit the 2.5mm hole. If you look at the 6mm version they look better and the fit of a standard non flatten thimble is no problem in the 3.3mm hole. I think I am going to order some 6mm barr stock just to sort out if I can work as fast as with the 5mm version, maybe need some other tools . unfortunately I haven't find a thible small enough for the 1/4 scale version

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 While on the subject of Turnbuckles and related items I have question.  Is there a standard way to safety wire the turnbuckles so they do not come unscrewed?  if so i would like to know how it should be done.


I like the use of the double wrap method;


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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 3/31/2012 10:06 AM   
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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 4/24/2012 4:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I made some extra TB's during a run last weeks;

I have 10 1/4 scale German style and 10 1/4 scale British style available. They go for $45,- per 10 incl. postage worldwide. And I have 30 1/3rd scale British style available. These go for $60,- per 10 incl. postage worldwide.

If interested just send me a Email or Pm.



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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 5/15/2012 9:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just made the first sample on request for the 1/2 scale turnbuckle design. I used the German No.8 TB as example and made this fork and eye end as close to scale as possible. Length of the fork is 40mm and 35mm for the eye.

Just ordered some new bar material for the body's, these will be 6mm hex. and 50mm long.

Any suggestions?

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 5/15/2012 10:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Teus,

really nice job. 

I know the drawings you are using.

greetings Matz

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 5/16/2012 8:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Matz,

I am very happy with the drawings, that make work much easier when you have the right sizes to compare. And I am now able to vary in size and stay in proportion without guessing.

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 5/16/2012 7:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Teus, no problem you can work with it,....but please don't publish.

At the time I have 70.000 drawings and documents of this.

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 6/17/2012 11:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Finaly I had some time to make the 1/2 scale sample complete

In my opinion they look proportional good, how do you guys think about it?

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 6/18/2012 1:55 PM   
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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 6/23/2012 3:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Martin,

I also made a clevis type barrel design in approx. 1/4th scale. See photo for details, the TB in the photo for comparison is a 1/4th scale British design.

I am also trying to find a good way to drill the 1mm holes in the pin for the split pin. At the moment it cost me a lot of drills. Somebody got an idea or tip how to solve this problem? I am already using a tool where I can place the pin in (pin is 2mm) so that the drill is guided. But the drills are still breaking too much [>:]

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 6/23/2012 3:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		"But the drills are still breaking too much"

A very short drill will help. I would cut the drill shank off, so that just enough of the drill is sticking out of the chuck to "just" get through the material.

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 6/23/2012 3:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good idea Les, never thought about that. I am going to try it when I have some new drills.

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RE: scale turnbuckles - is there a need? - 6/24/2012 3:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Good idea Les, never thought about that."

I have been there, done that when I was drilling out the brass disks for some wire spoke wheel hubs I was fabricating. Had the same problem.

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