Just a heads up here. There's a lot of good quality birds out there, be carefull who you by from. In my opinion, nitroplanes,xheli, nitrorcx, and partsworkz are not up to our standards. Again, the product's are good. Many times though, the products are not as described. What these guys call RTF is not what beginners want to get into. Their customer service\tech support, and interpretation of what the products should be capable of doing are far from advertized!!! Oh yea, they like to hang up, when you can get them, and close live talk sessions if they don't like what they hear. These guys don't have a clue what customer service is!! Be carefull.