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Area - 51 is a Groom Lake Base it's a top-secret military base located 90 miles north of Las Vegas in Nevada. It's in grid number 51
of the Nevada Test Site, so it's called Area 51. The United States Air Force Flight Test Center controls the base.
This place is best known for testing secret "black" aircraft and alien technologies. The base was
created in 1954 as a place to test
the secret U-2 spyplane that was used to fly missions over the Soviet Union. Then it started to house the SR-71,
A-12 and D-21 drone.
The F-117A was tested there, also. In the 1980's the base increased in size, along with the runway (which increased
to the present 6
miles). Alien craft is tested here, but the aliens aren't here anymore, there in Dulce Mexico Underground Base.

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Entering Area - 51
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Plenty of Warning signs
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Area - 51 Security ready and waiting
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The black vehicles have guards in them that are likely civilians hired from firms like Wackenhut or EG&G.
Observers call them "cammo dudes".
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Area 51's coordinates are 37°14'36.52"N, 115°48'41.16"W. The base itself occupies only a fraction of the more than
90,000 acres it sits on. A dry lake bed called Groom Lake borders the base. The base is surrounded by
thousands of acres of empty desert landscape. The Air Force has withdrawn lands from public use to help
keep the base hidden from snooping eyes. For many years, observers could hike to elevated vantage
points like White Sides Peak or Freedom Ridge, but the Air Force seized those lands

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[b]The shelters are "scoot and hide" buildings, designed so aircraft can quickly move under cover when
satellites pass overhead. Some allege that what you can see on the surface is only a tiny part of the
actual facility. They believe that the surface buildings rest on top of a labyrinthine underground base.
A few claim the underground facility has up to 40 levels and that it is attached via underground
railways to other sites in Los Alamos, White Sands and Los Angeles.

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whether military or civilian, must sign an oath agreeing to keep everything a secret. Buildings
at the site lack windows, preventing people from seeing anything not related to their own duties at the base. By some
reports, different teams would work on similar projects at the same time, but their supervisors would keep each team
ignorant of the other team's project. When testing a secret aircraft, officials ordered all uninvolved employees to stay
inside until the test flight was over and the aircraft returned to its hangar.

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Groom Lake
[b]Groom Lake is not a conventional airbase, as frontline units are not normally deployed there. Click image for larger version

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appears to be used during the development, testing, and training phases for new aircraft. Once these
aircraft have been approved by the United States Air Force or other agencies such as the CIA, operation
of that aircraft is generally conducted from a normal air force base.
Soviet spy satellites obtained photographs of the Groom Lake area during the height of the Cold War,
and later civilian satellites produced detailed images of the base and its surroundings. These images
support only modest conclusions about the base, depicting a nondescript base, long airstrip, hangars and the lake.

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Move out of the way !

This bus doesn't stop for anybody and it is going fast ! Coming in and out of Groom lake transporting employee's. This bus has blacked out windows. Can't see in and the people in the bus can't see out. If your in the way on the road it has been said the driver doesn't care, he does not slow down.
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[b] A Brief History of Area 51
During World War II, the Army Air Corps (precursor to our modern Air Force) built several runways in Nevada, including a pair of small runways at Groom Lake. They named the spot the Army Air Corps Gunnery School. After the 1940s, the runways were abandoned.
In the early 1950s, the CIA entered a partnership with Lockheed to develop high altitude aircraft to use in surveillance missions. Kelly Johnson of Lockheed helmed the project. He formed a department of engineers and test pilots that eventually took on the name Skunk Works. The Skunk Works department was famous for being very secretive and nearly fanatical in the pursuit of their goals.
The CIA and Johnson both knew that secrecy was critical to their success, and so Johnson needed to find a location to develop and test secret aircraft. He wanted a location that was remote enough to avoid notice, yet still close enough to a major city so that supplying the facility would not be a monumental task. The site would need to be easily accessible by aircraft and out of the way of commercial and military flight paths. It would also need space to house a sizeable force of military and civilian employees.
In 1955, he traveled to Nevada with test pilot Tony LeVier and CIA representative Osmond Ritland to find a good place to use as a base of operations for test flights. Ritland trained at the Gunnery School and told Johnson about it. Johnson decided the location was ideal for their operations.
Four months later, crews completed the initial construction. U-2 test flights began and President Eisenhower signed an Executive Order restricting the airspace over Groom Lake. The CIA, the Atomic Energy Commission and Lockheed oversaw base operations. Eventually, control of the base would pass to the Department of Energy and the Air Force
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[b]Hanger 18[b]
[b]This hanger could have a huge elevator in it, which transports up the secret aircraft's Aurora,
the Black Manta, and others they are testing to and from a underground place.

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Exotic Aircraft's that are at Area - 51

One of the most exotic aircraft's at Area - 51.
X-33 can go mach 13+ The X-33 could now be the Aurora.
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The famous
U-2 spy plane
The U-2 could fly at altitudes of 70,000 feet and was effective in reconnaissance missions for several years.
During the development of the U-2, the CIA and Lockheed realized they would soon need more
advanced aircraft because the Soviet Union's missile technology was rapidly catching up. In 1960, the USSR shot down a U-2, confirming this.

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Suntan CL-400
- a very light aircraft that can go fly up to Mach 2.5 (almost 2,000 miles per hour).
Later the Suntan became the SR-71 Blackbird. The Sultan is a successor to the U-2. The Suntan used liquid hydrogen
for fuel, which was its ultimate downfall. Engineers decided that it would be too expensive to
create a fuel infrastructure to support the Suntan's flights, and the government canceled the project.

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A-12 Avenger II is capable of delivering nuclear weapons
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General characteristics
* Crew: 2
* Length: 37 ft 10 in (11.5 m)
* Wingspan:
o Unfolded: 70 ft 3 in (21.4 m)
o Folded: 36 ft 3 in (11.0 m)
* Height: 11 ft 3 in (3.4 m)
* Wing area: 1,308 ft² (122 m²)
* Empty weight: 39,000 lb (17,700 kg)
* Max takeoff weight: 80,000 lb (36,300 kg)
* Powerplant: 2 × General Electric F412-GE-D5F2 non-afterburning turbofans, 13,000 lbf (58 kN) each
* Maximum fuel capacity: 21,322 pounds (9,700 kg) (internal)[11]
Performance
* Maximum speed: 500 knots (580 mph, 930 km/h)
* Range: 800 nmi (920 mi, 1,480 km)
* Service ceiling: 40,000 ft (12,200 m)
* Rate of climb: 5,000 ft/min (25 m/s)
* Wing loading: 61 lb/ft² (300 kg/m²)
* Thrust/weight: 0.325

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Aurora Specifications
Length:
110 feet (33.5 meters)
Wingspan:
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Ceiling:
150,000 feet (28.4 miles)
Design:
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The Aurora aircraft has an airframe like a flattened American football, about 110 ft long and 60 ft wide, smoothly contoured, and covered in ceramic tiles similar to those used on the Space Shuttle which seem to be coated with "a crystalline patina indicative of sustained exposure to high temperature. . . a burnt carbon odor exudes from the surface."
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Engine:
Several have heard a distinctive low frequency rumble followed by a very loud roar, which could be the exotic engine used by a Mach 6 (4,400 miles per hour) aircraft. Experts say a methane-burning combined cycle ramjet engine (uniting rocket and ramjet designs) could have been developed to power Aurora. Observers in California have also reported seeing a large aircraft with a delta-wing shape and foreplanes. Some think this could be an airborne launch platform for satellite-delivery rockets or even the Aurora, before its more advanced engines were developed.
Power comes from conventional jet engines in the lower fuselage, fed by inlet ducts which open in the tiled surface. Once at supersonic speed, the engines are shut down, and Pulse Detonation Wave Engines take over, ejecting liquid methane or liquid hydrogen onto the fuselage, where the fuel mist is ignited, possibly by surface heating.
A vast amount of rumours, conjecture, eye-witness sightings and other evidence point to an aircraft, funded as a Black Project, built by the Lockheed Skunk Works, operating out of the Groom Lake / Area 51 location. Always at night, never photographed, officially denied... This is the Aurora Project. No matter what speculation takes place, it seems the secrets that lie beyond the mountains of the Nevada desert will remain until the US military decides otherwise.
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Power Plant:
At subsonic speeds power comes from conventional jet engines in the lower fuselage, fed by inlet ducts which open in the tiled surface. Once at supersonic speed, there are three possibilities for the propulsion that carries the plane up to its mach 5+ speed:
1. PWDE Pulse Detonation Wave Engines - Essentially, liquid methane or liquid hydrogen is ejected onto the fuselage, where the fuel mist is ignited, possibly by surface heating. The PDE Pulse Detonation Engine (PDE) operates by creating a liquid hydrogen detonation inside a specially designed chamber when the aircraft is travelling beyond the speed of sound. When travelling at such speeds, a thrust wall (the aircraft is travelling so fast that a molecules in the air are rapidly pushed aside near the nose of the aircraft which in essence becomes a wall) is created in the front of the aircraft. When the detonation takes place, the aircraft's thrust wall is pushed forward. This all is repeated to propel the aircraft. From the ground, the jet stream looks like "rings on a rope". Another reader thinks this method is very suspicious. He goes on "a serious problem with the SR-71 and other high-speed aircraft is excessive skin heating. The last thing you want is to add combustion at or near the surface."
2. Ramjet - A reader points out that there is "a second possible power plant design, the Combined Cycle Ramjet Engine. Essentially, it is a rocket until it goes supersonic. At that point the rocket nozzles are withdrawn and the engines run as ramjets up to Mach 4-6. With a few minor modifications to the shape of the combustion housing, you could soup the power plant up to a scramjet, which could see speeds up to and beyond Mach 8. The fuel for this power plant could be liquid methane or methylcyclohexane, plus liquid oxygen as an oxidizer in the primary 'rocket' stage. Further data on this power plant is available through Popular Science Magazine, March 1993 issue. " However another reader feels that a ramjet is not a possible propulsion source because "the National Aerospace Plane (NASP) was cancelled in large part due to the inability to solve the materials problems with the proposed supersonic ramjets. I don't think there has been enough progress, even in the black world to solve these problems. Further, RAMJET doesn't leave doughnuts on a rope."
3. Regular Pulsejet - Pulsejets uses the forward speed of the engine and the inlet shape to compress the incoming air, then shutters at the inlet close while fuel is ignited in the combustion chamber and the pressure of the expanding gases force the jet forward. The shutters open and the process repeats itself at a high frequency. This results in the buzzing drone for which the pulsejet missile is named: the buzzbomb. A reader points out that "pulsejets can be cooled to solve the materials problems of supersonic ramjets. They could also generate doughnuts on a rope although this is speculation as I am unaware of any previous actual tests at high altitude."
There has been some debate about this though, as there was a Phoenix Air to Air missile that was designed to be carried in the F-12 (Basically a later interceptor version of the SR-71). This missile can only be carried by the F-12, the F-111 and the F-14 Tomcat. This missile might also be usable on the Aurora.
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Mission:
Reconnaissance missions.
Contractor:
It is rumoured that the Aurora was designed and built by Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co., the same company w ho built the SR-71.
The SR-71 has served as one of the only aircraft capable of performing a mobile reconnaissance mission. Although satellites are useful in this role, the SR-71 had the advantage of going wherever and whenever an "eye-in-the-sky" is needed. In spite of this funding for the SR-71 program was cancelled in 1989 and SR-71 flights ceased.
Given the importance of the role of the SR-71, and the fact that it is the only plane capable of performing that role, it has been suggested that government must have some secret aircraft that was capable of replacing the SR-71. According to Richard H. Graham, Col., USAF in his book SR-71 Revealed, "in 1990, Senator Byrd and other influential members of congress were told a successor to the SR-71 was being developed and that was why it was being retired. The "Aurora" could be this plane.
This argument is weakened by the fact that in 1995, congress approved $100 million to bring the SR-71's back into service. One argument is that the Aurora was abandoned, either due to expense or technical difficulties, and that the SR-71 had to be brought back to resume its mobile surveillance role.
Legacy:
The Aurora might be a follow-up project, or research project from the B-70 Valkyrie.
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Mach 6-20 (Most people believe that its speed is Mach 6-8, but some think that it could go up to Mach 20.)

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Armament:

Unlikely to be capable of armament but may be capable of launching Phoenix Air to Air missiles.
On 23 March 1992, near Amarillo, Texas, Steven Douglas photographed the "donuts on a rope" contrail
and linked this sighting to distinctive sounds. He described the engine noise as: "strange, loud
pulsating roar... unique... a deep pulsating rumble that vibrated the house and made the windows
shake... similar to rocket engine noise, but deeper, with evenly timed pulses." In addition to providing
the first photographs of the distinctive contrail previously reported by many, the significance of this sighting
was enhanced by Douglas' reports of intercepts of radio transmissions.

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SR-71 Blackbird
The SR-71 has a top speed of Mach 3.5 (more than 3 times the speed of sound!), can fly higher than
100,000 feet, and has a range of 4,000 miles! Unlike experimental rocket engines, the SR-71 can cruise
at Mach 3, and fly from New York to Las Angles in less than an hour, on one tank of gas. It can also
survey more than 100,000 square miles of the Earth's surface in one hour.
This aircraft has a titanium skin.
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General characteristics
* Crew: 2
* Payload: 3,500 lb (1,600 kg) of sensors
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* Height: 18 ft 6 in (5.64 m)
* Wing area: 1,800 ft2 (170 m2)
* Empty weight: 67,500 lb (30,600 kg)
* Loaded weight: 152,000 lb (69,000 kg)
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* Powerplant: 2 × Pratt & Whitney J58-1 continuous-bleed afterburning turbojets, 34,000 lbf (151 kN) each
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* Wheel track: 16 ft 8 in (5.08 m)
* Wheelbase: 37 ft 10 in (11.53 m)
* Aspect ratio: 1.7
Performance
* Maximum speed: Mach 3.3[80][81][82] (2,200+ mph, 3,530+ km/h, 1,900+ knots) at 80,000 ft (24,000 m)
* Range: 2,900 nmi (5,400 km)
* Ferry range: 3,200 nmi (5,925 km)
* Service ceiling: 85,000 ft (25,900 m)
* Rate of climb: 11,810 ft/min (60 m/s)
* Wing loading: 84 lb/ft² (410 kg/m²)
* Thrust/weight: 0.44
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The SR-71 And UFO Encounter
The SR-71 BlackbirdThe SR-71 was designed as a spy plane for the CIA in the 60s and designated the A-12. The Mach 3 plus aircraft first flew in 1962, taking off from Groom AFB in Area 51. Later, once the Air Force operated it as a reconnaissance plane, it was designated the SR-71 black-bird.
Fouche's friend, Chuck, a SR-71 pilot, related to him about an in-flight incident he had in the 1970s. He was returning from a reconnaissance flight, and, while at an altitude of 74,000 feet and at the speed of almost Mach 3, (3 times the speed of sound) he noticed something flickering in his peripheral vision. Hovering over his left wing tip was a ball of dense plasma-like light. It was so bright, that when he stared at it for more than a few seconds, his eyes hurt.
Chuck tried to use his UHF, HF, and VHF communications sets to no avail. There was nothing but static. Repeatedly glancing briefly at the ball of light, he watched in amazement as it moved effortlessly about his aircraft. At one point the light positioned itself a few feet in front of the large spiked cone at the air Intake Inlet. The enormous amount of air rushing into the engines should have sucked in, and shredded almost anything in its path, but the light orb was mysteriously unaffected.
The light, he noted, acted in a curious manner, if something inanimate could act at all. It moved from time to time to other parts of the vehicle, staying with him until his approach to Beale AFB in California. He was in sight of the Air Base when the light swung away from his aircraft in a wide arch with ever increasing speed.
Of course, after reading his incident report, his Operations Commander told him not to ever speak about his experience. When Chuck related the story to Fouche, he said he was absolutely convinced that the ball of light was controlled by some form of intelligence. Fouche gathered about two dozen stories from pilots of similar in flight incidents with UFOs and plasma balls.

Tacit Blue nicknamed "the whale" becomes virtually invisible
to any radar. In 1982, the Tacit Blue flew for the first time in a test flight, and after that it flew 135 times
over 3 years. The entire program cost $165 million and Northrop, as the main contractor, received $136
million. The data collected from the Tacit Blue project was later used on the B-2 Spirit, also made by Northrop.

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* Crew: 1
* Length: 55 ft 10 in (17 m)
* Wingspan: 48 ft 2 in (14.7 m)
* Height: 10 ft 7 in (3.2 m)
* Loaded weight: 30,000 lb (13,606 kg)
* Powerplant: 2 × Garrett ATF3-6 high-bypass turbofans, 5,440 lbf (24 kN) each
Performance
* Maximum speed: 287 mph (461.88 km/h)
* Service ceiling: 30,000 ft (9,144 m)
* Thrust/weight: 0.36


Switchblade
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Switchblade is a forward-swept swing wing mechanism that
enables the jet to become an advanced attack aircraft capable of precision weapons delivery, super maneuverability
(for air combat) and Mach 3 "dash" capability. It is a bomber, fighter and high-speed aircraft all-in-one.
Called the Bird of Prey. When the wings are swept farther forward, the aircraft takes advantage of the maneuverability
that forward-swept wings offer, and becomes an agile fighter. The aircraft turns into a delta shape perfect for dashing away at Mach speeds.

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AX - 17 / FB - 119
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The A/F-X (Attack/Fighter X) was a joint USAF/USN project to produce a heavy attack aircraft with a secondary fighter role; it would have replaced the F-111 and A-6 in the attack role, and (partially) the F-14 in the fighter role.
It was a short-lived programme, originating in 1991 after the cancellation of the McDonnell Douglas/General Dynamics A-12, a highly advanced, highly stealthy aircraft intended to replace the A-6. A new programme, originally designated A-X, was initiated to provide a cheaper A-6 replacement.


Brilliant Buzzard

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A exotic plane with a hypersonic propulsion system. One of Area 51's secret stealth projects, the Brilliant Buzzard.

Capable of attaining altitudes exceeding 120,000 feet, the mothership can fly faster than mach 5, or 3,300 mph. A pair of retractable canards were located just aft of the third crew member, which could be deployed during slow flight conditions (take-off and landing), and fully retracted at speeds exceeding Mach 3. The primary structure of the Brilliant Buzzard consisted of a composite titanium/Corbamite (element 140) material.
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At 1:45p.m. on August 5, 1992, aUnited Airlines 747 crew reported a near miss with an unknown aircraft as the airliner headed out of Los Angeles International Airport. The airliner was in the vacinity of Georges AFB, California, when the 747's Traffic Alert and Collision Avoidance System (TCAS) warned the flight crew that an aircraft was approaching at high speed. The unidentified aircraft flew past the 747 about 500-1000 feet below it at high supersonic speed. The UFO was described as having a lifting-body configuration, much like the forward fuselage of an SR-71, and being roughly the size of an F-16. It was speculated that the aircraft was a drone that had "escaped".

The Skylon Spaceplane
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The vehicle's hybrid SABRE engines use liquid hydrogen combined with oxygen from the atmosphere at altitudes up to 26km and speeds of up to Mach 5, before switching over to on-board fuel for the final rocket-powered stage of ascent into low-Earth orbit.
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The Skylon is intended to cut the costs involved with commercial activity in space, delivering payloads of up to 15 tons including satellites, equipment and even people into orbit at costs much lower than those that use expensive conventional rockets.


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Skylon has received approval from a European Space Authority panel tasked with evaluating the design. "No impediments or critical items have been identified for either the Skylon vehicle or the SABRE engine that are a block to further development," the panel's report concludes.

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At higher altitudes where the atmosphere thins, Skylon’s Sabre engine switches to full-on rocket mode and propels itself more like a conventional launch vehiclethough by this point it is already moving fast enough, and the air is thin enough, that it doesn’t need too terribly much fuel. Along the way it has to shed no external fuel tanks, allowing for what engineers are calling “single-stage-to-orbit” spaceflight. In this way, the reusable 275-foot Skylon could launch payloads of more than 16 tons into space with regularity at a far lower per-kilo cost than conventional rockets can.
But the hybrid air-breathing/rocket engine presents some serious challenges as well, and that’s what’s kept Skylon grounded for so many years. The engine must manage 1,000-degree high-speed gases flowing through its intake, then cool them prior to compressing and burning them along with hydrogen. This has led to the design of a novel heat exchanger that can take said gases and plunge them to -130 degrees celsius in just 1/100th of a secondno small feat. Engineers then had to devise a unique anti-frost solution that allows this heat exchanger to run continuously without freezing up.
By the ESA’s account, engineers working on the Skylon and its Sabre engine have done all of these things. ESA’s technical staff have seen it working on the lab bench and have given the engine their approving nod to go ahead with ground tests. That will happen this summer, when a scaled-up version of the cooling tech will be demoed.
That’s a big deal. If Skylonor something like itever takes flight, engineers claim it could bring the roughly $7,000 per pound payload cost to launch satellites into orbit down to less than $500 per pound.


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The design of SABRE evolved from liquid-air cycle engines (LACE) which have a single rocket combustion chamber with associated pumps, pre-burner and nozzle which are utilised in both modes. LACE engines employ the cooling capacity of the cryogenic liquid hydrogen fuel to liquefy incoming air prior to pumping. Unfortunately, this type of cycle necessitates very high fuel flow.
These faults are avoided in the SABRE engine, which only cools down the air to the vapour boundary and avoids liquefaction. This allows the use of a relatively conventional turbo compressor and avoids the requirement for an air condenser.
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The SABRE engine is essentially a closed cycle rocket engine with an additional pre-cooled turbo-compressor to provide a high pressure air supply to the combustion chamber. This allows operation from zero forward speed on the runway and up to Mach 5.5 in air-breathing mode during ascent. As the air density falls with altitude the engine eventually switches to a pure rocket propelling SKYLON to orbital velocity (around Mach 25).
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The Falcon
Hypersonic Technology Vehicle HTV-2
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The DARPA Falcon Project (Force Application and Launch from Continental United States) is a two-part joint project between the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and the United States Air Force (USAF). One part of the program aims to develop a reusable, rapid-strike Hypersonic Weapon System (HWS), now retitled the Hypersonic Cruise Vehicle (HCV), and the other is for the development of a launch system capable of accelerating a HCV to cruise speeds, as well as launching small satellites into earth orbit.

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Falcon Blackswift HTV-3X Hypersonic Aircraft


The Blackswift was a proposed aircraft capable of hypersonic flight designed by the Lockheed Martin Skunk Works, Boeing, and ATK.
The USAF states "The Falcon Blackswift flight demonstration vehicle will be powered by a combination turbine engine and ramjet, an all-in-one power plant. The turbine engine accelerates the vehicle to around Mach 3 before the ramjet takes over and boosts the vehicle up to Mach 6."

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWaiWtH2CuI[/youtube]

XB 70 Valkerie
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[b]The XB-70A, built by North American Aviation's Los Angeles (Calif.) Division for the U.S. Air Force, was an experimental high-speed, delta-wing aircraft designed to fly at three times the speed of sound and at altitudes in excess of 70,000 feet.
It was powered by six General Electric J-93 turbojet engines, each producing approximately 30,000 pounds of thrust. Primary purpose of the aircraft was to investigate the feasibility of long-range, high-speed flight and to advance the aeronautical state of the art in those areas.
Among its design features were a movable canard, the "compression lift" aerodynamic design principle, in-flight accessibility to electronics equipment, a shirt-sleeve environment for the crew, and encapsulated seats for crew ejection at speeds up to Mach 3 and at altitudes to above 70,000 feet.[/
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About 70% of the Valkyrie was to be of a new stainless steel. The interior structure was mostly corrugated sheets, and the skin was a brazed honeycomb sandwich of very thin steel, yet very strong. The parts most subjected to heat were of a material never before used in an aircraft, René 41. Aerofoil surface edges were machined to extreme sharpness. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wsPLthWrr8[/youtube]

The six GE engines were housed in an engine box under the wings, profiled to generate compression lift. On "zip fuel" one engine alone made more noise than any air-breathing engine in history. Development of the two prototypes was to cost around $1,500M, making them the most expensive two aircraft built to that date, and worth, according to one estimate, about ten times their weight in gold
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Fact : two tons of wheels, tires and brakes, supported the XB-70 on the ground

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General Electric, the designer and manufacturer of the powerful engines of the XB-70, wanted a few promotional photographs
[SPECIFICATIONS:
Span: 105 ft.
Length: 185 ft. 10 in. without boom; 192 ft. 2 in. with boom
Height: 30 ft. 9 in.
Weight: 534,700 lbs. loaded
Armament: None
Engines: Six General Electric YJ-93s of 30,000 lbs. thrust each (with afterburner)
PERFORMANCE:
Maximum speed: 2,056 mph (Mach 3.1) at 73,000 ft.
Cruising speed: 2,000 mph (Mach 3.0) at 72,000 ft.
Range: 4,288 miles
Service ceiling: 77,350 ft.

XB - 70 Crash

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Just after the last shot of the day was taken, a Lockheed/NASA F-104N, flown by NASA chief test pilot Joseph Walker, was sucked into the jet vortex of the giant XB-70. The F-104N flipped over onto the top of the massive bomber, clipped off the bombers left tail section and turned into the massive fireball pictured here. If you look at the XB-70 in the upper left, you can see the left vertical stabilizer is missing
The crew of the Valkyrie, initially unaware of the collision, continued in straight and level flight for 16 seconds. However, the aircraft entered into a unrecoverable flat spin For some seconds the Valkyrie flew steadily, then began a slow roll, turning into a violent yawing. Descending flat-on to the airflow, a large part of the left wing broke away. Soon after, White ejected in his crew capsule. The XB-70 stopped oscillating and fell, slowly rotating, hitting the ground almost flat about four miles north of Barstow.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCORwUxlNQo[/youtube] [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEP7niGqiNg[/youtube]
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F-117A Nighthawk
The F-117 Nighthawk, developed in total secrecy, was the first operational platform to employ what is known today as
"stealth." Its startling, unconventional shape clearly signified the arrival of a new era in fighter performance through
low-observable technology.

Since then, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company has introduced another revolutionary aspect to the fighter.
Through total system performance responsibility (TSPR) for F-117 sustainment, this unprecedented contract
provides technical, maintenance and modernization support to the 49th Fighter Wing and its F-117 fleet.
This comprehensive support program provides such enhancements as lean manufacturing and repair
processes, significantly faster spare parts fulfillment, reduced engineering response times, and technical publications.

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F-117 Modernization
New materials and access-panel stealth technologies significantly reduce the signature. With upgrades to the
stores management system, the new class of global-positioning-system-guided smart weapons enters the F-117's
arsenal. In the near future, upgrades are planned for cockpit displays, data transfer systems and the Infrared Acquisition
and Designation System

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[b]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g-QSZjbtWg[/youtube]
First plane composed entirely of flat, angular surfaces. The F-117A
Nighthawk is the world's first operational aircraft designed to exploit low-observable stealth technology. The
unique design of the single-seat F-117A provides exceptional combat capabilities. About the size of an F-15 Eagle,
the twin-engine aircraft is powered by two General Electric F404 turbofan engines and has quadruple redundant
fly-by-wire flight controls. Air refuelable, it supports worldwide commitments and adds to the deterrent strength of the U.S. military forces.
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workload. Detailed planning for missions into highly defended target areas is accomplished by an automated mission
planning system developed, specifically, to take advantage of the unique capabilities of the F-117A.
Data from USAF National Museum,[1] US Air Force[59]
General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 65 ft 11 in (20.09 m)
Wingspan: 43 ft 4 in (13.20 m)
Height: 12 ft 9.5 in (3.78 m)
Wing area: 780 ft² (73 m²)
Empty weight: 29,500 lb (13,380 kg)
Loaded weight: 52,500 lb (23,800 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × General Electric F404-F1D2 turbofans, 10,600 lbf (48.0 kN) each
Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 0.92 (617 mph, 993 km/h)
Cruise speed: Mach 0.92
Range: 930 NM (1720 km)
Service ceiling: 45,000 ft (13,716 m)
Wing loading: 65 lb/ft² (330 kg/m²)
Thrust/weight: 0.40


B-2 Stealth Bomber
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The B-2 is a low-observable, strategic, long-range, heavy bomber capable of penetrating sophisticated and dense
air-defence shields. It is capable of all-altitude attack missions up to 50,000ft, with a range of more than 6,000nm unrefuelled
and over 10,000nm with one refuelling, giving it the ability to fly to any point in the world within hours.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RuJ9_30j88[/youtube]
Its distinctive profile comes from the unique 'flying wing' construction. The leading edges of the wings are angled at 33° and
the trailing edge has a double-W shape.

B-2 Cockpit
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The cockpit accommodates two crew. It is equipped with a colour, nine-tube, electronic flight instrumentation system (EFIS),
which displays flight, engine and sensor data and avionics systems and weapons status.
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The pilot can choose to activate the appropriate selection of flight and mission equipment for take-off mode, go-to-war mode
and landing mode by using a simple three-way switch.
Weapons
The aircraft carries all its weapons internally and is fitted with two separate weapons bays in the centre of the aircraft.
The B-2 has the capacity to carry up to 40,000lb of weapons, including conventional and nuclear weapons, precision-guided
munitions, gravity bombs and a range of maritime weapons.
"A new transportable hangar system allows the B-2 to be deployed to forward locations overseas."Each weapons bay is
equipped with a rotary launcher and two bomb-rack assemblies. In tests, the B-2 successfully released B-61 and B-83 nuclear
and mk84 conventional bombs from the rotary rocket launcher, and mk82 and CBU-87 conventional weapons from the bomb
racks. The B61-11 is an earth-penetrating nuclear bomb for use against deeply buried and hardened targets. The B83 is a
strategic free-fall nuclear bomb.
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[b]The B-2 can also carry the AGM-129 advanced cruise missile, which is a strategic cruise missile with a range estimated at up
to 1,500 miles.
16 satellite-guided JDAM (joint direct attack munition) missiles can be carried. Northrop Grumman is converting the B-2 bomb
rack assembly to a new 'smart' configuration, which will increase the number of JDAMs which can be carried to a maximum of
80. The aircraft will also be fitted with the joint stand-off weapon (JSOW), joint air-to-surface stand-off missiles (JASSM) and
the wind-compensated munitions dispenser (WCMD) and will be able to carry up to 80 115kg small diameter bombs (SDB).
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The aircraft is powered by four General Electric F118-GE-100 turbofan engines internally mounted in the body of the wings.
The engines have an exhaust temperature control system to minimise thermal signature.
The engines, rated at 77kN, provide a high subsonic speed and a maximum gross take-off weight of 336,500lb. In-flight
refuelling gear is installed in the top centre line of the aircraft behind the cockpit.
[hr]"The B-2 Spirit stealth bomber has the capacity to carry up to 40,000lb of weapons, including conventional and nuclear weapons."
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU7cTfdxOkY[/youtube]
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Stealth Bomber Crash video
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go2Ntc9tqZ8[/youtube]
General characteristics
Crew: 2
Length: 69 ft (21.0 m)
Wingspan: 172 ft (52.4 m)
Height: 17 ft (5.18 m)
Wing area: 5,140 ft² (478 m²)
Empty weight: 158,000 lb (71,700 kg)
Loaded weight: 336,500 lb (152,200 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 376,000 lb (170,600 kg)
Powerplant: 4 × General Electric F118-GE-100 non-afterburning turbofans, 17,300 lbf (77 kN) each
Fuel Capacity: 167,000 pounds (75,750 kilograms)
Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 0.95 (550 knots, 630 mph, 1,010 km/h) at 40,000 ft altitude / Mach 0.95 at sea level[70]
Cruise speed: Mach 0.85[47] (487 knots, 560 mph, 900 km/h) at 40,000 ft altitude
Range: 6,000 nmi (11,100 km (6,900 mi))
Service ceiling: 50,000 ft (15,200 m)
Wing loading: 67.3 lb/ft² (329 kg/m²)
Thrust/weight: 0.205
Armament
2 internal bays for 50,000 lb (23,000 kg) of ordnance.[47]
80× 500 lb class bombs (Mk-82) mounted on Bomb Rack Assembly (BRA)
36× 750 lb CBU class bombs on BRA
16× 2000 lb class weapons (Mk-84, JDAM-84, JDAM-102) mounted on Rotary Launcher Assembly (RLA)
16× B61 or B83 nuclear weapons on RLA
Later avionics and equipment improvements allow B-2A to carry JSOW, GBU-28, and GBU-57A/Bs as well. The Spirit is also designated as a delivery aircraft for the AGM-158 JASSM when the missile enters service.[/

[color=#330066] When the first Space music is over, here's another to play.
Again please keep the volume turned up.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFB3SS9-qa0[/youtube]


Boeing X-48 - Blended Wing Concept Design Aircraft

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Blended Wing Body, or BWB, designates an alternative airframe design which incorporates design features from both a futuristic fuselage and flying wing design. The purported advantages (see Potential advantages below) of the BWB approach are efficient high-lift wings and a wide airfoil-shaped body. This enables the entire craft to contribute to lift generation with the result of potentially increased fuel economy.
Flying wing designs are defined as having two separate bodies and only a single wing, though there may be structures protruding from the wing. Blended wing/body aircraft have a flattened and airfoil shaped body, which produces most of the lift to keep itself aloft, and distinct and separate wing structures, though the wings are smoothly blended in with the body
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[size=2]General characteristics
Crew: None
Wingspan: 20 ft 5 in (6.22 m)
Wing area: 100.5 sq ft (9.34 m2)
Aspect ratio: 4.1
Gross weight: 500 lb (227 kg)
Powerplant: 3 × JetCat P200 turbojet, 52 lbf (0.23 kN) thrust each
Performance
Maximum speed: 136 mph; 219 km/h (118 kn)
Endurance: 40 minutes
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X-15 Rocket Plane
The X-15 was rocket-powered research aircraft. The X-15 was air launched from a B-52 aircraft. It had no landing gear, but landed on skis. It had reaction controls for attitude control in space. X-15 is composed of an internal structure of titanium and a skin surface of a chrome-nickel alloy known as Inconel X.
Development of the X-15 began in 1954, in a joint research program sponsored by the NACA (National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics - now NASA), the U.S. Air Force, the U.S. Navy, and private industry. North American was selected as prime contractor on the project following a competition in which Bell, Douglas, and Republic competed.
This joint program by NASA, the Air Force, the Navy, and North American operated the most remarkable of all the rocket research aircraft. Composed of an internal structure of titanium and a skin surface of a chrome-nickel alloy known as Inconel X, the X-15 had its first, unpowered glide flight on June 8, 1959, while the first powered flight took place on September 17, 1959. Because of the large fuel consumption of its rocket engine, the X-15 was air launched from a B-52 aircraft at about 45,000 ft and speeds upward of 500 mph. The airplane first set speed records in the Mach 4-6 range with Mach 4.43 on March 7, 1961; Mach 5.27 on June 23, 1961; Mach 6.04 on November 9, 1961; and Mach 6.7 on October 3, 1967. It also set an altitude record of 354,200 feet (67 miles) on August 22, 1963, and provided an enormous wealth of data on hypersonic air flow, aerodynamic heating, control and stability at hypersonic speeds, reaction controls for flight above the atmosphere, piloting techniques for reentry, human factors, and flight instrumentation. The highly successful program contributed to the development of the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo piloted spaceflight programs as well as the Space Shuttle program. The program's final flight was performed on October 24, 1968.

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More history -
Three X-15s were built, flying 199 test flights, the last on 24 October 1968. Twelve test pilots flew the X-15, among them were Neil Armstrong (first man on the moon) and Joe Engle (a space shuttle commander). In July and August 1963, pilot Joe Walker crossed the 100 km altitude mark twice, thus joining the NASA astronauts and Soviet Cosmonauts as the only men to have crossed the barrier into outer space (Alan Shepard was the first American in space, while Soviet Yuri Gagarin was the first human being in space).U.S. Air Force Test pilot Maj. Michael J. Adams was killed, on 15 November 1967, in X-15 Flight 191 when his craft (X-15-3) entered a hypersonic spin while descending, then oscillated violently as aerodynamic forces increased after re-entry. As his craft's flight control system operated the control surfaces to their limits, the craft's acceleration built to ±15 degrees vertical and ±8 degrees lateral. The airframe broke apart at 60,000 ft altitude, scattering the craft's wreckage for 50 square miles. On 8 June 2004, a monument was erected at the cockpit's locale, near Randsburg, California. Maj. Adams was posthumously awarded astronaut wings for his final flight in craft X-15-3, which had reached 266,000 ft (81.1 km, 50.4 mi.) of altitude. In 1991, his name was added to the Astronaut Memorial monument, Kennedy Space Center, Florida.Bomber NB-52A (s/n 52-003), permanent test variant, carrying an X-15, with mission markings; horizontal X-15 craft silhouettes denote glide flights, diagonal silhouettes denote powered flights.The second X-15A was rebuilt after a landing accident. It was lengthened 2.4 ft (0.74 m), a pair of auxiliary fuel tanks attached under the fuselage, and a heat-resistant surface treatment applied. Re-named the X-15A-2, it first flew on 28 June 1964, reaching 7,274 km/h (4,520 mph, 2,021 m/s).The altitudes attained by the X-15 aircraft do not match that of Alan Shephard's 1961 NASA space capsule flight (116 miles), nor subsequent NASA space capsules and space shuttle flights. However, the X-15 flights did reign supreme among rocket-powered aircraft until the third spaceflight of Space Ship One in 2004. The widely-reported record achieved, by the small X-43A scramjet test bed, on 16 November 2004, of approximately Mach 10 (6,600 mph, 10,622 km/h, 2.95 km/s) at 95,000 ft (29 km, 17.99 mi) is an air-breathing jet engine record. (Wiki)

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Check this out X-15 ufo video encounter
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXh47XEaLFk[/youtube]
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X-15 Cockpit
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Wingspan: 6.82 m
Length: 15.47 m
Height: 3.96 m
Weight: 5,670 kg empty
Powerplant: Reaction Motors XLR-99 rocket engine. Manufactured by Thiokol Chemical Corp



F-22 Raptor [b]
F-22 Raptor is a single-seat, twin-engine fifth-generation super maneuverable fighter aircraft that uses stealth technology. It was designed primarily as an air superiority fighter, but has additional capabilities that include ground attack, electronic warfare, and signals intelligence roles.[6] Lockheed Martin Aeronautics is the prime contractor and is responsible for the majority of the airframe, weapon systems and final assembly of the F-22. Program partner Boeing Defense, Space & Security provides the wings, aft fuselage, avionics integration, and all of the pilot and maintenance training systems.
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The F-22 Raptor is a fifth generation fighter that is considered a fourth-generation stealth aircraft by the USAF.[117] Its dual afterburning Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 turbofans incorporate pitch axis thrust vectoring, with a range of ±20 degrees. The maximum thrust is classified, though most sources place it at about 35,000 lbf (156 kN) per engine.[118] Maximum speed, without external weapons, is estimated to be Mach 1.82 in supercruise mode,[119] as demonstrated by General John P. Jumper, former US Air Force Chief of Staff, when his Raptor exceeded Mach 1.7 without afterburners on 13 January 2005.[120] With afterburners, it is "greater than Mach 2.0" (1,317 mph, 2,120 km/h), according to Lockheed Martin; however, the Raptor can exceed its design speed limits, particularly at low altitudes, with max-speed alerts to help prevent the pilot from exceeding them. Former Lockheed F-22 chief test pilot Paul Metz stated that the Raptor has a fixed inlet. The absence of variable intake ramps generally limits speeds to approximately Mach 2.0. Such ramps would be used to prevent engine surge resulting in a compressor stall, but the intake itself may be designed to prevent this. Metz has also stated that the F-22 has a greater climb rate than the F-15 Eagle due to advances in engine technology, despite the F-15's thrust-to-weight ratio of about 1.2:1, with the F-22 having a ratio closer to 1:1.[121] The US Air Force claims that the Raptor cannot be matched by any known or projected fighter types,[2] and Lockheed Martin claims that, "the F-22 is the only aircraft that blends supercruise speed, super-agility, stealth and sensor fusion into a single air dominance platform."

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[color=#000000][size=2] General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 62 ft 1 in (18.90 m)
Wingspan: 44 ft 6 in (13.56 m)
Height: 16 ft 8 in (5.08 m)
Wing area: 840 ft² (78.04 m²)
Airfoil: NACA 64A?05.92 root, NACA 64A?04.29 tip
Empty weight: 43,430 lb (19,700 kg[2][232])
Loaded weight: 64,460 lb (29,300 kg[N 6])
Max takeoff weight: 83,500 lb (38,000 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 Pitch Thrust vectoring turbofans
Dry thrust: 23,500 lb[234] (104 kN) each
Thrust with afterburner: 35,000+ lb[2][234] (156+ kN) each
Fuel capacity: 18,000 lb (8,200 kg) internally,[2][232] or 26,000 lb (11,900 kg) with two external fuel tanks[2][232]
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holy smokes that is one long post took me like 2 mins just to scroll through it [:@]

That skylon thing looks similar to some submersible jet I saw once on a PBS special a long time ago(that was never aired again, found one other person that saw it) the theory behind it pretty much was it would be able to travel to targets underwater at near mach speeds by generating a bubble of air(by super heating the water I think) around it to get around the effect of water, and pop out at the target do its duty, and pop back under before any counter measures could be launched.

Also doesn't that skylon thing sound a bit tooo close to cylon when its pronounced (throws more conspiracy theories into the mix)

As for the craters IMO weapon tests remember it is a military base. What does the military do best? Blow stuff up
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elven... nice work. your post is full of good stuff!

also, if anyone is wondering... Janet is an acronym for Joint Air Network for Employee Transportation. i often watched them take off and land from my window in the Mandalay Bay :-)
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i just kind skimmed through this but i will spend more time reading tonight i want to ask a few questions to all people who look at this post do you believe in aliens? if not why? look at the many life forms just on this planet now look how big the universe is still dont believe in aliens
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i do believe. there are over a billion galaxies out there.
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This post is really taking form. I packed as much information as I possibly can about Area - 51. Again take your time with this one. You will learn, learn and learn. [8D]

SyCo_VeNoM - I didn't know that about the Skylon. The technology is super today.


Aniome - Pretty cool your able to see Janet Airlines from Mandalay Bay. Next time I stay there I'll keep my eye out for that plane.

Doug702 - welcome, hope your enjoying the post.

Electricrc68 - You are right !
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Fantastic thread, on one of my favourite subjects.

You may find this interesting..

http://vectors.usc.edu/issues/4/trev...ge2.php?menu=6
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Too much info for one sitting.
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this thread makes me want to watch the x files
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Congratulations, you successfully crashed my browser.

As for area 51... it was nothing more than a place for the government to reverse engineer soviet aircraft and technology from other countries (not other worlds). There have been thousands of "sightings" out there over the years, but not one picture that wasn't later found out to be doctored and a hoax. Every single former employee/contractor of area 51 who has said there were extra terrestrial aircraft, or aliens... is a total nutjob. For every 1 former employee that says there is a conspiracy, there are 100 that say there was nothing but soviet aircraft, but no one listens to those people because they aren't interesting.
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thanks Lee172 - I find this interesting about your article -

"Once the Janet enters military airspace near Groom Lake, Nellis Center will simply clear the Janet for handoff to something called simply “control.” Nellis center approves a frequency change to the new controller, but doesn’t issue a frequency – with a nudge and a wink, the Nellis Control says in effect “I know where you’re going, and you know that I know where you’re going, and you already have the frequencies you need.”



Another peculiar flight plan that appears in connection with flights to Groom Lake has to do with a little-known airstrip at the Nevada Test Site called Desert Rock Airstrip (ICAO code DRA). The airstrip is located on the Nevada Test Site near the Department of Energy’s company town of Mercury on the southern border of the Nellis Range. From time to time, DRA acts as a “cover story” in filed flight plans whose destination is actually Groom Lake. There is anecdotal evidence suggesting that until the mid-1990s, Janet flights routinely filed flight plans to Desert Rock Airstrip, then once they’d crossed into military airspace, they would contact Dreamland and proceed to Groom Lake. Those procedures have been replaced by the more recent ones described above, but this “DRA as cover story” method still seems to be occasionally used, particularly by non-Janet aircraft flying to Groom Lake such as the Gulfstream II with the tail number N105TB.
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CowboyLifesaver - patience ... patience

suburban_hooligan - ya me too

proanti1 - sorry about that. I had to go all the way with this one and pack as much info as I possibly can.

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seems the tech is pretty old for forming a bubble of air http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercavitation to hit mach 1 in water
I'm guessing the jet never got out of the theory phase.
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Supercavitation - explains how partly USO's (Unidentified Submersible Objects) go thru water.

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doug702 wrote - i just kind skimmed through this but i will spend more time reading tonight i want to ask a few questions to all people who look at this post do you believe in aliens? if not why? look at the many life forms just on this planet now look how big the universe is still dont believe in aliens

Elven Wizard - I think more and more people are believing there are other life forms out there in this universe than us and the non believer's are starting to be believer's in this alien life subject.

As Doug702 said and I like to ask for the non believer's out there. Tell why won't there be anything, but us in this vast universe ? Give your reason's.

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i went through the whole post and watched some videos wow this makes me think im close enough to area 51 i can drive out to area 51 and also i see the janet planes all the time i would like to but probably wont follow one of the passengers home and just incase the government is watching this i would like to but i wont
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the scary part is its been nearly five years since the news about only 20% of the base being above ground, all them buildings got a basements or bunkers or both, have you heard about "Janet", its the private airline which shuffles people from a seperate terminal and Las Vegas International Airport out to the base multiple times per day. As far as I know nearly every country in the world uses tail numbers for ID on both civilian and military aircraft, even stealth fighters and bombers carry tail numbers yet these Janet Planes are simply white with a red stripe, no tail number no ID, they are priority for landing and taking off of course. Supposedly they do this so no one can figure out how many planes are used which could lead to figure out how many people go to work out there at Groom Lake every day. I understand security is key but flying people to work EVERY day sounds like the fleecing of america to me.
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doug702 - This has been in the planning for sometime, I would like to get as close to Area - 51 than anyone has ever been before. I will take a camcorder and camera with high zoom lens. I'm still in the planning stages of this event.


J.D.T - Your right, There's a huge underground base that goes for miles under Area - 51 with many levels deep into earth, and tunnels that stretch for many more miles.

The Black budget program is in the multi billions and billions and they have all the power in the world to do whatever they want.
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i wish i had the balls you do to try it keep us posted and by the way good work on this post i enjoy looking at it
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Rocking post Elven. Two thumbs up.
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Thanks tommygun32

It's nice to see people's interest in this.

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Award for longest RCU post in RCU history goes too ^^^^
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