Tripower455

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The WRX is definitely a going machine........ but..... put the same money into an '06 GTO and you'll be quicker and still get over 20 mpg........ Power to weight is definitely a big issue in making a car quick. Make a lot more power, with a little more weight, and you'll go quicker......

I've seen some fast, stock imports at the track, the WRX being one of them, the TT Supras and NSXs are a few others, but most of them are simply bees in a coffee can.... Plus, I hate driving and especially working on, FWD cars........

fastmax

No doubt working on front and all wheel drive cars is more of a pain in the a@@. I agree with you on the GTO issue, but that car is an exception to the rule, Mustangs, Camaros, and many others require more than just the extra power to run equal times they have serious traction and wheel hop issues that just dont allow them to run as quickly in a short distance as many tuners can.

As far as driving the front wheel drive cars go, it is almost a necessity in Michigan if you want to modify a daily driver. Anything rear wheel drive is a hockey puck 5 months out of the year. Either that or it is a garage decoration.

Tripower455

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Actually, I'd put an LS1 F body against any FWD in the traction department. In fact, they launch a lot better than the IFS on the new GTO..... Most of the "tuners" don't make enough torque for wheel hop to be a problem, and when they do, they break halfshafts.

I'll disagree again, having spent many years driving both FWD and RWD cars in the snow. The FWD is better to get the car going on slippery surfaces, but once you are going, you'll have far more control with a RWD than FWD. FWD sucks in the rain too. The tendancy is to start swerving when you hit standing water and the only thing you can do is add more throttle to try to recover, or else it will continue all the way around. RWD will tend to recover and straighten out when you release the brakes and gas. Same thing happens in the snow. The ONLY time I lost control of a car in the snow was with a FWD when the rear came unglued in a slow speed turn. I rode the thing around the 270, and fortunately didn't hit anything. Had I been in my car, that wouldn't have happened.


And before you say it, the reason that FWD is the predominant setup nowadays is cost. It is far cheaper to manufacture a FWD car than a RWD. How many world class performance cars are FWD?

fastmax

But you also have to keep in mind that when trying to recover an out of control FWD you can not try and drive it like a RWD. Everything you are supposed to do is completely reversed, and 99.9% of the time a FWD car ends up spinning out of control it is in the ditch facing the road that it just came off of making it possible to drive back out instead of waiting for the towtruck. I have seen this a million times on the very road that I live on. I also see about 100 times as many RWDs in the ditch every winter. There is no way you will ever get me to buy that a RWD is more capable on slippery roads than FWD. If you took two equally powered cars with identical all season tires the FWD would destroy the RWD on a slippery road any day of the week.

ScRacing

if never seen it happen like that... And i grew up around towing and still ma because my dad works for a towing compiney. The best vehicles for snow are chevy pickups wiht lockers in the rear and indipendent front suspnsion. Nothing elses is nealy as good. As for cars i would say that lancers or imprezas are the best. i would love to drop a smallblock 350 in a sti v-spec, alhtoe it would take alot of modification , it would be verry verry cool. IN a sence, the best of both wrolds

Tripower455

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Having had lots of experience with both, you'll never convince me that FWD is better for anything other than getting started in deep snow. Other than that, once moving, you'll have far more control with RWD. Standing on the gas in a skid, when the nose of the car is pointed at solid objects you'd rather not hit, is not only unnatural, it is no guarantee that you won't hit said objects anyway, at a higher speed.

vtl1180ny

The ONLY reason FWD is better at getting going in the snow is because the bulk of the car's weight is over the drive wheels... A few sandbags in the trunk of a RWD does the same thing!

I don't like FWD at all and I refuse to buy a FWD car... I have NEVER liked it... I was trained to drive RWD at high speeds and there is no way you can get the same handling from a FWD car...

The only reason these tuner cars move is because they weigh nothing... Back in the 70's and 80's you could get a Chevy Monza with a V8 from the factory, a little tuning on these cars and they were absolutely dangerous...

Kemo

600? Ha... my buddy's camaro pushes 500 to the rear wheels with a 350. The torque is almost at 550. Heck, he's still on vbelts too, he can throw them off at 7,000 rpms. Only about 10 grand invested in the car, TOPS, and already runs 10's. The engine is carb'd too btw.

I have to throw the BS flag on a 572 throwing 1200 ft lbs stock. Its impossible. The crate engine that has 700+ hp only pushes 620!

SpeedAddict

You're FRIGGIN' LUCKY!!!!!!! I want a 1970 Chevelle SS 454. It's my dream car. I like these pics!!!

Kemo

thats my fav chevelle too. I'd do quite a bit to pick one of those up, even as a resto.

SpeedAddict

Ditto. I HATE it when I see one with 28" rims, low profile tires, lowered, and worst of all..............hydraulics!!!!!!!! That should be illegal. I love bone stock with red and two black stripes. Well, maybe a LITTLE engine mod!

Kemo

i cant have a stock vehicle. It has to be performance (after warranty expires that is). Its nice to get parts at discount free labor and everything.

SpeedAddict

Yeah, performance is good. Even custom paint and interior. Hydraulics are stupid though.

Kemo

hydraulics ruin a vehicle... in every aspect of every view i have towards a vehicle .

Just got my car back, "custom" speaker installation. You other cobalt guys know what a pain the doors are, because aftermarket wont fit w/o customizing it a bit.

CadillacDTS2001

tell me about it , i man on a lambo ! come on how low

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any way it was a lambo contache with hydrolics that was bouncing

Kemo

that whole car was garbage. Thats why they don't sell worth crap on auctions. They are more of a pain to have than they are fun to drive.

AznBash3r

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anyone ever watch the Johnny the Ricer vids? goooosh thats the funniest vid ive ever seen!

Kemo

last import video i watched was wrecks of exotics. And I enjoyed every minute of it. From lambo to ferrari, and everything in between.

taildragger21

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My 99' mustang gt.. I'm pretty much a muscle car guy.. I hate ricer's,loud bassy systems,hydraulics,and all that in general. Why take a crappy economy car and spend$$ on it to make it fast when you can just go buy muscle. To each there own I suppose

ProRCRacer88

I have to say both for many reasons, but i only will name 1 for each.
I like muscle cars because they own at a drag strip and the sound and feel of 500+ horses on command is a feeling like no other.
The imports, what I like about them is the looks and racing capabilities they have, and are just as quick as muscle cars if you make them that way.

Dr.ArmoMaxx

With American made cars i would only get Chevy trucks or dodge and the vette

Otherwise its import...and not just any import...for example...i would kill for Subaru WRX sti or Mitsubishi evo 8
And if anyone knows or is familiar with this cars...they know what i am talking about

ProRCRacer88

For imports, the skyline GTR... for muscle, a chevelle SS, dodge charger, shelby cobra

So Cal

imports are okay..i gues....but muscle cars are AWSEOME!!! my dream car is a 1969 dodge charger! or a 1971 plymouth hemi 'cuda

SpeedAddict

I want the Charger on Fast and the Furious. That was awesome.

The Yenko Camaro and Hemi Cuda in 2 Fast 2 Furious are sweet cars too.

savage haley 14

you can make a muscle car out run an import on any track just put all the carbon fiber and lighten them up like the imports some muscle cars are really light like a dodge hemi dart they come in at about 2900 lbs. muscle cars will spank imports anyday if you dont believe me try to race john force's mustang[>:]

in 2 fast 2 furious it was a challenger r/t not a hemi cuda