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Why can't we dicipline our kids anymore.

Old 10-14-2009, 12:10 PM
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So today I'm listening to the local radio station as I'm taking my daughter to school and the news comes on. A mother got arrested for putting a bar of soap in her kids mouth and was chrged with child abuse. She put the soap in the 8yr olds mouth for using foul language. So the kid puked and she gets arrested for child abuse. Boy what a lucky kid. When I was 8 my grandmother slammed a bar of soap in my mouth for using the F word. I got spanked by my mom and I always thought twice before doing something stupid. Now we do time out and groundings. Are you kidding me. Kids these days know they can get away with murder.

If we (parents) yell at our kids in public you get looked at funny like the bad guy. If you spank your kid in public you just might get the cops called on you. If you spank your kids at home they might call the cops on you. Our kids are becoming more aggressive and dangerous. I fear for my daughter in school. She is a great kid but in the last 40 days here in Miami one highschool kid stabbed and killed another over a girl, after that it was found that a bunch of kids from middle school to highschool were bringing knives and blades, then in another state a poor honor roll kid gets beat to death, and here just yesterday a 15yr old kid was set on fire by another group of kids because he owed one 40 bucks for a video game.

We need to get back to laying the law down with our kids. Time out is a joke and grounding only goes so far also. Hell I was spanked and had soap put in my mouth and turned out just fine. I love my grandma and my mom is my hero. Just cuz they layed a little leather down to keep me in the straight and narrow does not mean I gonna love them any less.

And last if any kids or teens read this please listen to your parents. Don't do anything stupid that is going to land you in jail and ruin you for the rest of your life. Just thought I would vent. All comments are welcome.
Old 10-14-2009, 12:29 PM
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I tried to help my Stepdaughter-from He11 for 4 years to learn how to live in society, make money and be successful. The three years she spent in the Oklahoma Women's Penitentiary in Taft Oklahoma did more than I could do in a life time... Some folks just have to wallow in the gutter to finally realize that all the crap in the world flows down on them.
Old 10-14-2009, 01:00 PM
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Exactly. It comes from modern life being too easy. Children are not learning what detrimental effects their behaviour has. It's utterly ridiculous that you can't smack a naughty child within reason these days. Shame on the world for getting this way. I got the cane at schoool quite a few times, straightened me out pretty good, I was a very wayward child, but I eventually got a wake up call.
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oops sorry Foxy



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No politics please people, or you know what's gonna happen...
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now its like a badge of honor or something if you've spent time in juvenile hall, somehow these little punks think it makes them hard or something, we always reveled in the fact that we got away with it, no one wanted to get caught and be the bad kid, now its just to easy to put them in the behaviorally challenged classes with the truely special education people and let them fall through the cracks to be little dirtbags, for some people its not their fault they are poor and stupid, there parents were poor and stupid and they didn't get a chance, what is sickening is when you have little trust fund babies acting all gangster just to get a reputaiton at school, next thing you know they got these stupid 13 tatoos on there forearms and tear drops on there faces, most of them are about as hard a wet paper towel and don't realize they just screwed up big and bad and will pay for it the rest of there lives
Old 10-14-2009, 01:16 PM
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My dad spanked me when I was younger and it was effective. Man anything but the paddle. I will use it on my kids. I have heard of stuff like the kids telling the teacher that they were hit but were really just spanked and the parents got in huge trouble. Teachers by LAW have to report any kind of abuse on a child. If it made the kid puke honestly sounds to me like abuse. I never ever puked when I got my mouth washed out. This method was a favorite of my grandma and my mom.
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Yeah I got the paddle a few times in school also. I had a cop buddy of mine let my daughter sit in the back of his squad car and she did not like it at all. Then I got in and she started crying. Thought it was cute. But I agree man kids have it way to easy and not really thinking about what the consequences are.
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Some people have a weak gag reflex, soap could easily make them puke. Stupid though to consider making a kid puke as child abuse, when we've ALL drunk too much and puked before. It's not like puking is life threatening, or even particularly traumatic.
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the wooden spoon was my mom's weapon of choice....and it worked.
she tried the soap in the mouth but when i laughed at her during the "soaping" she stepped it up to the spoon.

home school your kids folks, for as long as you can, then they'll have a decent chance of turning out alright.

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These kids think there so tough today and it's all image gangsta style clothing, pierced ears, the way they talk and that stupid walk. Most if not at all have never been in a real fight before. Way back if you had a problem with someone you settle it somewere. mono e mono style, and it was a fight ! These kids can throw a punch in words but have you ever talked back to them ? I mean they get all scared and paranoid.


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Lol my mum put chilli in my mouth when I said rude words. And I wasn't the politest kid around back then, by the end of it I was immune to chilli powder lol. Always used to get sent to the head man for 'colourful language' and couldn't help but laugh when I got told off
Then there was my dad ...belt, shoes, fists, car wheels [X(] you name it, hes thrown it at me lol.
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If it's anti bacterial soap it is dangerous. Either way that idea of putting soap in a person's mouth for profanity is quite possibly the most idiotic form of discipline ever. Give them a beating and move on.
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I am not, nor will I ever be afraid to spank or discipline my children (7 year-old and 2 year-old) in public. If they need it, I'll spank em right in front of a cop. I don't give a crap what the government or other people think about the way I raise my children. Time-outs are absolutely useless, grounding works on the 7 year-old, but not the 2 year-old. My 7 year-old has had soap in his mouth, been spanked in stores, and been spanked bare-butted in the parking lot. Spare the rod and spoil the child. That doesn't mean don't spank and give the child whatever he wants. That means, if you don't spank, the child becomes spoiled. I got spankings growing up and it never hurt me, it caused pain briefly, but never really hurt me. Start spanking and stop spoiling. That's the only way to get our children headed back in the right direction.
Old 10-14-2009, 03:52 PM
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Totally agree with most things said here.
Kids these days know they can get away with murder.

Going back to the OP regarding the knives.
You only have to go back about 40-50 years and every little boy carried a pocket knife.
It was the norm and nobody thought anything of it.


Crazy world.


As for getting the cane at school - that was something we never did.
The most the teachers could do was to ask us to leave the class room if we were misbehaving.

My parents never went further than a firm smack on the bum but that was enough.
I knew the boundaries (and got good at sneaking and get away with stuff)


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If it's anti bacterial soap it is dangerous.
How so?

We're not afraid to spank for discipline at our house, but it's a bit of a last resort (if you do it all the time, I figure they'll get immune to it, and you no longer have The Big Threat). Time outs have actually been quite effective thus far, but I imagine as they get older, it will not. We'll adjust.


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If it's anti bacterial soap it is dangerous.
How so?

We're not afraid to spank for discipline at our house, but it's a bit of a last resort (if you do it all the time, I figure they'll get immune to it, and you no longer have The Big Threat). Time outs have actually been quite effective thus far, but I imagine as they get older, it will not. We'll adjust.


It's toxic basically.
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actually you can't even give your kids a timeout anymore ether.  iv got a bro who got a visit from child protective services because of a single timeout incident.  he has a 9 year old step son that's a total delinquent.   the kid was on restriction for not doing his homework that week.  no video games was the punishment, because he played video games instead of doing his homework.  after an attempt to play playstation my bro hijacked all the games and put them up.  the kid had an absolute freak out temper tantrum and threw the controller at the TV.  hit and broke the TV.  so he gets a time out.  sentenced to stand in the corner for 10 minutes.  before he even got to the corner he pops off with "i gotta pee".  which really means "im going to spend 5 minutes getting to the bathroom and anther 10 minutes in the bathroom goofing around then im going to go do what ever i want."  my bro says, "no you get your butt in the corner and if you leave the corner im doubling your time."  so the kid took a whiz in the corner.  my bro makes him stand there in the whiz for the 10 minutes then made him clean it up.  kid goes to school the fallowing week, a teacher over hears him telling one of this friends about what happened and tips off the authorities who launched an investigation.  it was 3 months of meetings and house calls. 
basically what it boils down to is you have to talk to your kids and reason with them.  compromise rather than punish.  its a joke. 
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whippings, i had quite a few in my day. i think, i listened the most when i was getting whippings. the most effective disapline i ever recieved!
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Wow but housed247 that sicks for your bro. Thankg god grounding works for my 12 year old. She just got off. I took everything away. I had her unplug her Wii, and place her DS, MP3 player, phone, and board games all in a bag. I took the TV out also bcuz her grades were slipping. Now she has straight A's. But I agree with a good but wippin every now and then if the kid is out of control. Prime example is my oldest nephew who is 23 now. When he was 15 he was on this shop lifting thing and one day he got busted. Lucky not to go to juvi my sis grounded him but afterwards was out shop lifting again. My sis asked me to handle it. I had a good conversation with him and told him if he ever did again I would whip him. While I was saying it I swung the belt once on his but. He was surprised and started saying hey I'm 15 and I said so what. Well to make a long story short I told him next time it would be worse and he never did it again. He has 1 more year in UTI automotive tech school and he is doing real good.

Its crazy that our kids are starting to run us. I have had little punks try me. And when I walk towards them they just laugh and run. Most kids I run into still have respect but its getting worse.
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I don't have any children, and I was not a model citizen as a child.
Grounding was the worst for me because I had many friends to hang out with all the time and it was torture not being able to go out with them.

But if grounding didn't straighten me out...


Remember Hot Wheels track?[X(]

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Ok folks,
If "we" let the government try to tell us what we can and can't do they will continue impossing their crap on us. If you haven't figured it out yet it's turning into a progressive socialistic society that wants to rule our lives. And to be honest up until recently "we" have been letting them. Only this year have the people stood up and said enough is enough. People for the most part are starting to realize that the government wants to have a finger in every aspect of our lives.
Just like stated above, Back not to many years ago kids, myself included got our butts kicked for disrespecting our parents or anyone our adult. Don't you dare cuss in front of adults, and if I did not only would I get my butt kicked I would have a chore list a mile long.
There is a huge difference between spanking a kid that needs it and beating a child. The problem is Some people don't use common sense to see the difference. And until we tell the government to stay the hell out of our personal lives they will continue.
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I have that stuff. Must hurt.
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the wooden spoon was my mom's weapon of choice....and it worked.
she tried the soap in the mouth but when i laughed at her during the ''soaping'' she stepped it up to the spoon.

home school your kids folks, for as long as you can, then they'll have a decent chance of turning out alright.

i just clicked on this thread, bit of a coincidence. on the radio
here this morning a mother was charged with assault after her
little girl went to school and told the kids that her mum hit her with it.
cops rock up at the mums place and arrested her.

im not saying the kids should get a hiding, but discipline is neccesary
for them to learn. they strive for discipline. its like a dog, if it doesnt
get told off it doesnt know its doing wrong. it will soon learn not to do
bad things because of what will happen. they need it.
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ORIGINAL: SLAYERDUDE

I don't have any children, and I was not a model citizen as a child.
Grounding was the worst for me because I had many friends to hang out with all the time and it was torture not being able to go out with them.

But if grounding didn't straighten me out...


Remember Hot Wheels track?[X(]

Hot wheels track and willow switches. ah good times good times. Seriously though my niece was getting a little out of control for awhile and finally it came down to a serious ass woopin and a whole lot of my free time. Unfortunately it does go both ways and spending time with children is very important.

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