STLPilot

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Well if you ordered one here is what you are getting! Sorry it took so long to get them. Shipping March 1.
This is just the ARF hardware is included as well.

Dave763

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STLPilot, They look good, I've got one on order, I can't wait! I am going to power it with the MVVS 2.15 gasser and the the tuned pipe exhaust from Morris.(I hope I havn't made a mistake, but I like gas.....cleaner, cheaper) I read a post somewhere that said this motor pulled it out of a hover very well. I will find out soon enough.I wonder how
the arf will compare to the kit as far as the weight? The os 1.60 and the moki 2.10 seem to be used the most on this plane. I will post a report to let everyone know how the MVVS works out.

Happy flying, Dave

Dave763

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Some more reading and I find that capthis sold the plane(OMP Edge/MVVS 2.15) to stlpilot. It was a little nose heavy, .......What was the auw?How many servos were used in the tail? What servos did you use?Have there been any more problems with the ignition system?How do you like the combo? Enough power?Or should I do a search and read some more?


Thanks Dave

STLPilot

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Combo is real good MVVS is really strong ... spinning 22x6 @ 7500. Have not had a single problem with the ignition, my of just been that first one that was bad. I did shift the weight back and now it's plenty fun.

You certainly don't need more power. Honestly, if I totalled this plane and motor, I'd stick that motor right back on it.

Dave763

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Thats what I wanted to hear! Thanks. I'm going to use hitec digitals, I have them in my 33% Extra and so far no problems with those servos. I got 4 5625s and one 5645 for the rudder, maybe a futaba s148 on the throttle.
Wow that tuned pipe looks like a small baseball bat, how did you mount it? Can you Post some pics please?

DKjens

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STLPilot,
Well, I just bent my wing tube on this dang thing on my first flight today. This is a kit I built, with an mvvs2.15gas engine and pipe on it. I was working on what was going to be my signature maneuver with this plane, a power off dive to a parachute right over the runway, to a harrier landing. Well, I did the parachute up high, and woops, it's got dihedral in the wing. Do you know of anybody who sells a carbon tube this size (7/8" outside diamete) or am I screwed?
Had I known this tube was this weak, I would hae built the dang thing with a 1.25" tube.
DKjens

Dave763

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DK, try here for the carbon tube.




http://www.precisionaerocomposite.com/


or http://www.pbgcomposites.com/index.html

DKjens

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Dave763,
Thanks very much, looks like PrecisionAeroComposites have what I need, a 7/8" x 30" carbon tube for $35.00. And to anybody building this plane, or if the ARF comes with a 7/8" wing tube, either sleeve the tube, use a larger tube, or use a carbon tube. I was pulling a parachute from a 100' decent at idle, I think it should have held up to that, what when I start doing full power horizontal to a wall ha ha.
DKjens

STLPilot

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Thats the first I have heard that. I have over 250 very abusive flights on mine and never has the spar even came close to failing. I'll ask Mike to see if he has heard anybody elses spar failing.

D

DKjens

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I ordered the carbon wing tube from PrecisionAeroComposites @$35.00. Let's see if the wings go next ha ha.

So Dion, did you find out if other owners have been able to bend the wing tube? If not, I think I must have won something, at the very least he he. Or maybe we can come up with a nickname for me, TubeBender perhaps. I sure hope the ribs and the wings stay together after I get the carbon tube he he.

DKjens

STLPilot

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I haven't talked to Mike yet tonite. However, I have the same setup as you. Do you have the 3' tuned pipe for the MVVS 2.15? I have flown mine straight down half throttle from 200' into a parachute many times. It could have just been bad batch or bad pipe. It's more important that you did not rip the wing off and total your plane.

seanychen

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The only time I was able to bend a tube is during crash. Usually these tubes are over-designed, if you check out the formula explained in Troy Built Models.

http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/WingTubes.html

Crashes can be expected to see 9G of load, which will bend tubes. Harrier landing (assuming no wing-to-ground impact), if done roughly w/ a stiff landing gear, 3G at most, and should not bend tubes.

I think you most likely had a defective tube.

AFSalmon

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That is an anomally as we have 100s of these models out now with no problems. I know for sure I beat my GS in the air with parachutes, walls, and blenders and have never bent the tube. I even midaired another plane (my son's!) one day which killed the engine and caused a direct nose in crash. Both wings broke loose from the inside structure breaking the tube loose from the ribs. The tube however was not bent at all and is back flying again.

Mike

3-D Flyer

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Ordered one of these today! Hoping the first run on the ARF's are still available! Does anyone know? Iwas considering the mvvs 2.15 combo as well. Also had a BME 44 or 50 in mind ? Also read a little about the roto 35. Any comments or opinions are appreciated! Looking forward to this one! It will be interesting because if this thing flys like their little brothers in a giant version, this is going to be awesome! especially only spending about $2 or so a day to fly !!!

STLPilot

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Yes the first run ARF's are still available. We will update the website when we sell out.

I've got the MVVS 2.15 ... tons of power. However that ZDZ 40 is supposed to be the lighter then the MVVS 2.15 and the price is pretty close. However I like the looks of the rail mounted MVVS better then bulk mount. It looks more like a blown up Fun Fly that way.

Not sure about the new RCS Roto 35 ... looks nice ... that's for sure.

lomcevek1

Thats not a bad problem to have.

STLPilot

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It is when we will have so many people that were going to put it off till last minute, then find out we don't have them. Our next shipment is in production phase right now.

3-D Flyer

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Are they still going out March 1 as stated earlier? Also thanks for the info a agree w/ the bulkyness of the zdz. I was concidering that also, however when i looked over the mods I have to many projects right now to go taking apart an ARF! So a kind of drop in engine is what i am looking to do... But i still want great power. So what do you think mvvs 2.15 or BME 44-50 ?

STLPilot

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We got word yesterday that our ARF missed their flight. However they are going on a plane today for Chicago then to Dayton. I can't imagine the delay more then 1 or 2 days. However I expect them to be gone by next week since we will have them in stock. We have sold more then half of them since we put them up on the site last month. Once they are actually here I expect them to be gone quickly.

Just an FYI.

I don't know. I like the rail mount looks of the MVVS and it's more power then needed. I also have the 3' tuned pipe and it looks cool as anything. I get lots of compliments on the MVVS as most people just think "it's the largest glow engine they have ever seen" then totally blown away when they find out it's gas. Everything just looks like a blown up fun fly.

If I lost this plane completely I would put the MVVS back on, or consider that Roto 35. They both are "drop engines" like you say. Rail mounted. You don't have to modify anything like some of the conversions we have on our website.

If you are keeping the engine just for this plane, then you need nothing over 30-40cc. But if you want to have your engine modular to swap out with another plane, then think about the bulk mount engines.

Heck the OS 1.60 is plenty of power. Look at the video on our website. The bundle is the best deal going.

Dave763

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STLPilot, I have the same setup(MVVS 2.15\tuned pipe) and am waiting for my GS540 ARF to arrive.Can you tell me how you mounted the tuned pipe? A pic would great. Waiting for the AFP sim also. I have the download and can't wait to practice with it!


Thanks, Dave

3-D Flyer

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Thanks again for the update! I only mentioned BME because it would also be rail mounted... I was just wondering if there was going to be a weight issue or not w/ the BME vs. the mvvs? Will be looking forward to recieving it! Will we recieve notification to the individuals who ordered them when they ship? THANKS!

STLPilot

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We will try our best to send emails. However just keep an eye out on this forum. When they ship, you will know about it!

What is the weight of the BME with whatever muffler you are putting on it?

3-D Flyer

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Will Do! I do not know yet as i have not purchaced yet... starting to lean twords going w/ the mvvs 2.15

DKjens

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So, Mike and Dion, perhaps you can explain this to me. As I said I bent the wing tube, in the air, not crashing or mid air. You guys are certain, and have posted here, that I must have had a faulty wing tube. Then why is it that I haven't been offered a free replacement tube by OMP? Anyway, if OMP does want to offer me a replacement, I actually need a new gear in stead. As I've stated, I bought a carbon tube and I'll stick with that, but today, during a low hover, my engine burped, and the plane pancacked onto a grassy field. Only minor repair is needed, but a new gear is needed. I'd love to hear from you guys.
DKjens

STLPilot

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Jens, We never said we were certain in this thread. Since this is the very first time this has ever happened in the history of the company we would at least like to see the wing tube so that we can prevent this from happening again.