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Old 02-16-2005, 09:47 AM
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Diggidy

There are many low cost tach's out there, I believe I have seen them for about $35.00.

Yes I am still using 2 cells, I find the 2 cell fits everywhere, AB, Formosa, Corsair, etc.

What motor are you using on the AB, I forget, stock? Motor Max? or the Mega?

At 12.6 volts ( full charge), the stock motor would cook in a short time, the Motor Max would take longer to cook but it would overheat, as for the Mega, I don't know.

With my Himax motor running a 14X8 prop and a 2 cell lipo ( motor draws 15 amps) in the Formosa I get INSANE flights, I have max throws on the ailerons and get unlimited spinning while climbing vertically, the only limitation is my skill level.

The Formosa flys good at low speed, when new and not loaded with epoxy it floats rather well.
My first videos with the Formosa ( around September) showed this, I would suggest you do the first few flights using the stock motor with reduced throws, it will fly like the AB, just a tad more responsive.

The only motor we used that made the AB go vertical was the Himax.
Next time I go out with Mary Kate, I'm going to see what my best climb rate is, she comes in at about 15 oz, the Motor Max 400 T with the 9X4.7 gives me 14 oz thrust.

If you watch my current video http://users.adelphia.net/~afineman/ you will see with the first toss she wanted to go straight up, I'm starting to come around to accept what some of the old timers preach, Weight NOT power.

But until I get some more flights in with Mary Kate I won't recommend anyone else do what I did to it.

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Old 02-16-2005, 09:53 AM
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hi All,
For a while I thought everyone was trying to make Valentines day last 2 days. You must be tired.
Rain today. If tomorrow is ok I'll break out ole Badius. Scrape of the mold first.
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Old 02-16-2005, 10:13 AM
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Lou,

Man oh man. Sorry to hear about the Heli. You have to keep that guy Haze "in check".

I still can't find the prop screws you recommended for the S400 prop shaft. 10mm hex screws are too wide.
I think my Badius' are starting to suffering from withdrawal and need to get out.

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Old 02-16-2005, 10:17 AM
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Tailwind,
I'll try to remember to get some today and send them to you. I think they are 2mm.
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Old 02-16-2005, 10:23 AM
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Thanks Pal.

I installed a custom motor mount on my Stryker ("Spike") and now he wants to turn right all the time. [:@]
Clearly, the sheet metal that I installed under the existing mount affected the motor / prop angle.
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Old 02-16-2005, 10:25 AM
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Right turns are good for some people. Left for others. Try a "Moderate" mount.
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Old 02-16-2005, 02:41 PM
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Lou;

Buddy, you sound too much like me Last time I was out with the heli, I did a tailstand as well. I came down hard enough to bend the tailshaft, and had to replace it.

If there is a bright side to all of this, you are getting a lot of practice fixing the heli, so you should know how it works better than ever

Keep at it, I know you'll get it. Try to stay on grass if you can, and if you are over pavement don't be scared to "skate" it across the pavement, it doesn't look pretty, but it can get you out of repairs sometimes. Just be sure your whiffle balls are spinning freely

Good luck!
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Old 02-16-2005, 06:34 PM
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Haze, the servos are here. I can finish the fuse now. I am a little under the weather, but, will be on it soon. I can't wait!

Sorry about the heli problems.

Diggidy, it depends on which motor max you have. Mine is the 400F and I use 3cell li-pos all the time.
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Old 02-16-2005, 09:35 PM
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Hey Diggidy. Try www.grandrc.com
They have a good tach for sorta cheap.
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Old 02-16-2005, 09:37 PM
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Hey Sticks.
Get well soon. Gotta keep those planes of yours in the air.
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Old 02-17-2005, 12:59 AM
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Lou,

Thanks for the link. I'm gonna get that tach as soon as i get some free cash.
I'll let you know how it turns out.

Roger and Brent,

I have the Mega 16/15/5 in the badius right now and with a 2 cell lipo using a 9x5 graupner cam prop it flies awesome. BTW i'm pulling 15 amps with that setup at WOT.
Per the MEGA motor instructions it says it can handle 20 amps so i think that i'll hook up the 3 cell lipo with my amp meter and see how many amps it pulls. If it goes beyond 20 amps i'll yank out the 3 cell and stick to using 2 cells.

Of course i can always use a smaller prop to keep the amps down with the 3 cell.
I'll have to experiment i guess.

Only bad part of my experiments is that i always do them after a couple glasses of wine and never remember the next day all the numbers i worked out. haha
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Old 02-17-2005, 08:43 AM
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Hey Dan,

have you been working on your Omei? I am still waiting on the ESC, but should be here any day now. I've been too busy to fly the past couple of weeks, so just as well.

About those static amps that you are measuring, Keep in mind that all props will unload at speed and therefore the current draw will drop. Which means that once your plane is flying, not sitting on the bench, it will draw less amps. I was told, and this is only what I was told, that it is approx 20% less in level flight.

Unless we have an onboard amp recording device, I guess we can't know for sure.

I was told this by the FMA corp.
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:11 AM
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hi guys, the thread got blocked and now it's at page 45 !! when i left i was on page 20, and i figured that you'd be about here now. haven't got the patience to read all that stuff, so please let me know if there was anything of significance. by the way is our friend from europe still causing grief (better pm me on that one).

well i got back today and my Dad's fine now - he's gone to live in the UK with my brother. spent the most money i've ever done in 4 weeks, but the good thing is i just checked my shares and they shot up by the same amount as i spent so God or someone is taking care of the finances !!

no money left for rc stuff, good job i bought everything last year !! now, back to my winter building projects. dare not go skiing again this year as the wife will collapse if she has to look after the kids for another day alone.
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:21 AM
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Welcome back Doug!!!!


Glad to hear your Dad is doing well. Yes indeed, its time to get back in the air again.

We're all using call signs now:

Lou - Purple Haze
Brent - Hollywood
Randy - Capt. Pappy
Roger - Sticks
Dan - Dig
Terry - Glassman
Ifly - Sundance Kid
Ray Ray - Tailwind
Pilot Ray - Pilot Ray

We still have to make one up for you. I like "Bling Bling" $$$

I may have left a few out, sorry.

Take Care,

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Old 02-17-2005, 10:01 AM
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Hi Doug.
Glad to hear Dad is fine now. We all missed you.
Tell us some stories.
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Old 02-17-2005, 11:21 AM
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Doug;

So glad to hear your Dad is better. We have been praying for you.

You said you spent a lot of money - confess: how many planes DID you buy in Aus ?

Glad you are back...

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Old 02-17-2005, 11:32 AM
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Hey Glassman,
How did you know I flew the heli sideways? Is that normal for a rookie? I put a dent into one of the ping pong balls on the training wheels. iI have a nice flat spot now.
No flying notes today. I have enough wind to fly a 5X8 flag straight out like a piece of plywood. I'm dropping the anchor.
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Old 02-17-2005, 11:47 AM
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Doug,

Welcome back. Glad your dad is doing well.



Randy,

Mostly done the Omei. Still havn't epoxied in the stock servo/receiver/battery tray inside the fuse. Not sure where i want to place it. I can't make up my mind on the subject. Where are you placing yours?



Don't have to be at work until 4pm. Not too windy outside. Think i'll go fly the slowstick.
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Old 02-17-2005, 12:07 PM
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Randy,

Maybe next windless day i'll send my amp meter up with the slow stick. Give it a slow rolling takeoff and give it WOT only at altitute then bring it down gently and see what it says.

Should be interesting if nothing else right?

Maybe this weekend if the weather cooperates.

My amp meter will retain the max amps till you take battery off so we'll see.
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Old 02-17-2005, 02:13 PM
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It may not show the true "unloaded" amps. I am not sure at what point it actually unloads. You may hit higher for a fraction, before unloading. Will be interesting, tho.
For anyone with the money, they do have real time data modules now. Airspeed, amps, alt, etc.
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Dan,

I did not use the stock tray. I made a custom one fro my battery needs.

Roger is right about the amps, it will first record or store that initial high amps on power up.

Get one of those expensive thingys to tell you everything

I only used the servo holder part and incorporated it into the battery tray. Just a length of balsa to fit from forward area to back where servo was intended to be.
I held it in place forward with two screws and heavy duty velco forward on the bottom of the tray. I will use velcro straps to go under the tray and up around the lipos to hold them down.
This will be done after I get the CG right.

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Doug ([sm=confused.gif] thinking of a good call sign)

Great news, Great to have you back.

No real big news since you left, Dig smacked up his new Himax motor, Lou and Hazy have been fighting, they both want to fly the heli at the same time.

I've been flying the Slow Stick and AB again, I made some mods on the AB then a movie
http://users.adelphia.net/~afineman/ , you'll see what I did, she comes in about 15 oz.

My Corsair almost went up in flames ( esc got wet from snow, shorted, and started burning)

I don't remember if you were here when I got my BladRunner Heli, I got it , it flys great, and had movies to prove it.

Pappy

Glad to see you posting, I was starting to wondering where you were.

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Hi Doug! Great to hear everything is ok! Good to see you back!
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Hazey;

It is perfectly normal to fly / drive sideways
That is one of the things that makes helis so challenging. If you are using small balls at the ends of the sticks, get large ones. I use "whiffle" balls, they are about 3-4 inches in diameter, plastic, and have a lot of holes drilled inthem. This way they are strong and light. Make sure they all will rotate freely.

I would suggest (I know this is gonna sound funny) driving practice. By this I mean the following:

Get the heli "light" on the skids not off the ground, just take most of the weight off. Then practice skooting across the pavement, left and right, forwards and back. Pretend that you are in the air and you will start to get a feel for the the thing. If it starts to get away, just shut down and let it skid to a stop.

This will get you used to some of the "unusual" ways a heli can move (like backwards and right at the same time)

Have fun

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Hey Glassman,
Thanks. I'll try driving.
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