Graupner Tipsy or GWS Slow Stick
05-02-2005, 06:25 PM
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Graupner Tipsy or GWS Slow Stick
I am not sure which to buy. I'm kind of heading towards the tipsy because it has a stronger body and longer flight times
Which do you think i should buy they will both be flown in a park?
thank you
Mike
Which do you think i should buy they will both be flown in a park?
thank you
Mike
05-03-2005, 12:50 AM
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RE: Graupner Tipsy or GWS Slow Stick
ive flown before. but im not very good
$150 max
ive heard great things about both planes
I know that slo stick can easly bend the stick or break the fins off but is a slow flyer so it might be easyer to fly
The tipsy from what ive heard it can take alot of punishment and fly for a long time but im not so sure about its speed
thanks
Mike
$150 max
ive heard great things about both planes
I know that slo stick can easly bend the stick or break the fins off but is a slow flyer so it might be easyer to fly
The tipsy from what ive heard it can take alot of punishment and fly for a long time but im not so sure about its speed
thanks
Mike
05-03-2005, 01:08 AM
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RE: Graupner Tipsy or GWS Slow Stick
There is a club out your way. Here is a link to it.
http://www.seaislandrc.com/v2/
They don't have any directions on the site, but if you send them a message (Contact Us) you'll be able to get some help flying if you don't have that lined up already. If you can get someone to help you get started, you could go for something a little more wind worthy than the Slow Stick.
Don't know anything about the Tipsy, but if you are new and want some success with flying the Slow Stick, you want days that are pretty well dead calm when you're starting out. In this part of the world, the early mornings and late evenings are the times you will most likely get those conditions.
http://www.seaislandrc.com/v2/
They don't have any directions on the site, but if you send them a message (Contact Us) you'll be able to get some help flying if you don't have that lined up already. If you can get someone to help you get started, you could go for something a little more wind worthy than the Slow Stick.
Don't know anything about the Tipsy, but if you are new and want some success with flying the Slow Stick, you want days that are pretty well dead calm when you're starting out. In this part of the world, the early mornings and late evenings are the times you will most likely get those conditions.
05-03-2005, 06:24 AM
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RE: Graupner Tipsy or GWS Slow Stick
Tipsy is pretty quick, but can slow down nicely at partial throttle. I have one.
Slow stick is nice slow trainer.
You can break either one.
both good planes.
I like the high mount of the motor on the Tipsey. I started on an Aerobird and the high motor saved a lot of grief. After hundreds of flights, the Aerobird still lives in the car and comes with me everywhere even when I have other planes with me.
Of the two, get the Tipsey! You seem to be leaning that way anyway, but both are good choices and both are on my list of recommended starter planes.
Take a look at the list below. Since you are thinking ARF type planes, look at the Magpie below. Can be purchased with a slow flyer/trainer wing AND a sport aileron wing. May be a good choice for you.
I like all of these planes for new flyers.
If you have an instructor, follow his/her advice as to what to get as your
trainer. Getting info here is good, but discuss it with the instructor first.
How much space do you have for flying? If you have totally clear space of at
least 600'X600', about 9 square acres, approx 6 square football fields, then I
can recommend one class of plane. Call this class 1 - CL1
If your space is more like 200X200 (one square acre) then a different plane is
in order. Call this class 2 - CL2
If it is less than that, different again. This we will call class 3 - CL3
These are my own designations and are based on my subjective ranking of the
space a new flyer should have when learning on his own. An experienced flyer
can fly faster planes in smaller spaces, but a new flyer wants to have more
space so you are not in a constant state of panic trying to turn. Now, you
can get above the edges of the field and expand your space, but if you lose
control, you drop in woods, on top of kids or smash someone's
windshield. If that windshield is in a car is traveling down a road when you
hit the windshield, you could cause an accident or worse.
So much for space. You get the idea.
I don't recommend pretty planes as first planes. They are too easy to break,
too hard to fix and look bad in short order. So you won't see any especially
pretty or true scale planes. Make one of those your second or third plane. I
also don't recommend two channel R/T electrics, so you won't find any on the
list. They can be very easy to fly and can be a lot of fun, but they can also
be very easy to lose. A three channel R/E/T is a better choice as a first
plane, in my opinion.
Below I list electric planes for beginners. Some come ready to fly, some are
almost ready to fly (add your own radio gear) and some are kits. All of them
are electric. If you are looking for your first plane, you should find
something here to peak your interest.
If you are totally new to RC Flying, these articles may be helpful.
RC Planes Are not like RC Cars
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=17
Stall
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=31
Launch into the wind
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=43
Parts of the plane and how they work
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=54
The RC Pilots Cockpit
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=59
Flying the Plane
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=64
New Electric Flyer FAQs
http://www.ezonemag.com/pages/faq/a105.shtml
Six Keys to Success for new e-flyers
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=355208
READY TO FLY STARTER PLANES - Parkflyers
No building - they practically fly right out of the box
These also glide well so you can thermal soar
with them under the right conditions.
Aerobird Challenger - RTF Electric - $150 - CL1
I started on an Aerobird RTF. I love it and recommend it highly I have over
300 between my original Aerobird and the newer AB Challenger. I also thermal
and slope soar this plane. Flies well and stands up to hard landings. The
add on fun accessories for night flying, air to air combat and drop module add
to the fun!
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=HBZ3500
Review
http://www.hobbyzonesports.com/Disco...ID=1289#Page01
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147621
Video
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/aerobird_video.html
Slow-V from Parkzone - $140 - CL2/3
Best flown in still to under 5 mph breeze. The is the best choice for people
who only have a small space to fly. Can also be flown indoors in a gym or
similar space.
http://h1071118.hobbyshopnow.com/pro...p?prod=PKZ1300
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_20...tm.htm#2089493
Video
http://users.cwnet.com/dhsc19/Slo_V_Aerobatics.wmv
Night fly module on a Slo-V
http://rc-galaxy.com/messageboard/mb...ViewMsg&num=-8
T-Hawk - RTF - Excellent Value - $170 - CL1
Comes with extra wing, tail and battery
Flies well and stands up to hard landings
Can be flown on 27 MHz or 72 MHz
http://www.toytx.com/thawk3chrtf.html
T-Hawk - Without Radio - add your radio and receiver
http://www.readytoflyfun.com/wittran.html
T-Hawk Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ighlight=THawk
Videos
http://www.readytoflyfun.com/thawkvideos.html
Easy Star - RTF - $180 - CL1
Super tough foam. Comes with 72 MHz radio in the US.
Good parkflyer and a good glider
Radio in RTF package can be used to fly other planes
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240025.asp
Easy Star - ARF - Add you own radio gear
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240009.asp
Discussion Thread on Easy Star
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258656
Video - touch and gos
http://plawner.org/video/easygo.wmv
Video - Testing the plane's behavior
http://plawner.org/video/easystar.wmv
ALMOST READY TO FLY and EASY TO BUILD KITS - STARTER PLANES
Some of the planes in the previous group are available ARF as indicated.
Below are ARF and kit planes. You will need to buy a radio if you don't have
one, so you might want to read these articles on radios. Radios. The
articles are written for sailplane beginners, but all the info applies to
electrics too.
Entry Level Radios - If you have to go cheap
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=44
Computer Radios - The recommended path for almost everyone
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=65
ARF typically means you are not gluing balsa pieces together, then covering
with Monocote or some other shrink film. Below are ARFs and some are very
easy to build kits. In each case you must add your own radio, receiver,
servos, speed control, batteries and battery charger. They all come with a
motor.
Slow stick - $35 - CL2/3
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...&products_id=2
or
Slow stick Complete Package incl radio - $150
(need battery charger)
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=602
Best flown in still to under 5 mph breeze. This is an excellent choice for
people who have a smaller space to fly.
Can also be flown indoors in a gym or similar space.
The RTF Slo-V above is essentially a copy of this plane.
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=GWS1040
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hreadid=122951
Tiger Moth - $50 CL 2/3
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...products_id=20
or
Tiger moth Complete Package incl. radio - $150
(need battery charger)
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=343
Best flown in still to under 5 mph breeze.
This is an excellent choice for people who have a smaller space to fly. Can
also be flown indoors in a gym or similar space. Cool looking little plane.
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=GWS1020
Review
http://www.backyardflyer.com/BY/articles/tiger_moth.asp
Tipsey - $55 CL 1
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/tipsy.htm
Review
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/pdf/gr6232.pdf
http://rcgroups.com/links/index.php?...at=198&id=3871
Magpie - Using the trainer wing Easy to build Foam kit - $50 - CL2
Has trainer wing AND an available sport wing
Master the first, then advance to the second.
http://www.mountainmodels.com/magpie.php
discussion threads
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...51#post3502851
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=SmoothE+build
Video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/Magpie.wmv
SmoothE - Easy to build Balsa and foam CL2
Build as 3 Channel Slow Flyer
Or optional 4 channel aileron trainer
http://www.mountainmodels.com/smoothe.php
Discussion Threads
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=SmoothE+build
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...&page=19&pp=15
Funny video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/SmoothEsmall.WMV
Balsa Wood Kits - If you like to build with wood, these are highly
recommended.
Dandy CL2
http://www.mountainmodels.com/dandy.php
Build thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hlight=SmoothE
Video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/dandy.wmv
Dust Stick CL2
http://www.mountainmodels.com/duskstik.php
Slow stick is nice slow trainer.
You can break either one.
both good planes.
I like the high mount of the motor on the Tipsey. I started on an Aerobird and the high motor saved a lot of grief. After hundreds of flights, the Aerobird still lives in the car and comes with me everywhere even when I have other planes with me.
Of the two, get the Tipsey! You seem to be leaning that way anyway, but both are good choices and both are on my list of recommended starter planes.
Take a look at the list below. Since you are thinking ARF type planes, look at the Magpie below. Can be purchased with a slow flyer/trainer wing AND a sport aileron wing. May be a good choice for you.
I like all of these planes for new flyers.
If you have an instructor, follow his/her advice as to what to get as your
trainer. Getting info here is good, but discuss it with the instructor first.
How much space do you have for flying? If you have totally clear space of at
least 600'X600', about 9 square acres, approx 6 square football fields, then I
can recommend one class of plane. Call this class 1 - CL1
If your space is more like 200X200 (one square acre) then a different plane is
in order. Call this class 2 - CL2
If it is less than that, different again. This we will call class 3 - CL3
These are my own designations and are based on my subjective ranking of the
space a new flyer should have when learning on his own. An experienced flyer
can fly faster planes in smaller spaces, but a new flyer wants to have more
space so you are not in a constant state of panic trying to turn. Now, you
can get above the edges of the field and expand your space, but if you lose
control, you drop in woods, on top of kids or smash someone's
windshield. If that windshield is in a car is traveling down a road when you
hit the windshield, you could cause an accident or worse.
So much for space. You get the idea.
I don't recommend pretty planes as first planes. They are too easy to break,
too hard to fix and look bad in short order. So you won't see any especially
pretty or true scale planes. Make one of those your second or third plane. I
also don't recommend two channel R/T electrics, so you won't find any on the
list. They can be very easy to fly and can be a lot of fun, but they can also
be very easy to lose. A three channel R/E/T is a better choice as a first
plane, in my opinion.
Below I list electric planes for beginners. Some come ready to fly, some are
almost ready to fly (add your own radio gear) and some are kits. All of them
are electric. If you are looking for your first plane, you should find
something here to peak your interest.
If you are totally new to RC Flying, these articles may be helpful.
RC Planes Are not like RC Cars
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=17
Stall
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=31
Launch into the wind
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=43
Parts of the plane and how they work
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=54
The RC Pilots Cockpit
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=59
Flying the Plane
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=64
New Electric Flyer FAQs
http://www.ezonemag.com/pages/faq/a105.shtml
Six Keys to Success for new e-flyers
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=355208
READY TO FLY STARTER PLANES - Parkflyers
No building - they practically fly right out of the box
These also glide well so you can thermal soar
with them under the right conditions.
Aerobird Challenger - RTF Electric - $150 - CL1
I started on an Aerobird RTF. I love it and recommend it highly I have over
300 between my original Aerobird and the newer AB Challenger. I also thermal
and slope soar this plane. Flies well and stands up to hard landings. The
add on fun accessories for night flying, air to air combat and drop module add
to the fun!
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=HBZ3500
Review
http://www.hobbyzonesports.com/Disco...ID=1289#Page01
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147621
Video
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/aerobird_video.html
Slow-V from Parkzone - $140 - CL2/3
Best flown in still to under 5 mph breeze. The is the best choice for people
who only have a small space to fly. Can also be flown indoors in a gym or
similar space.
http://h1071118.hobbyshopnow.com/pro...p?prod=PKZ1300
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_20...tm.htm#2089493
Video
http://users.cwnet.com/dhsc19/Slo_V_Aerobatics.wmv
Night fly module on a Slo-V
http://rc-galaxy.com/messageboard/mb...ViewMsg&num=-8
T-Hawk - RTF - Excellent Value - $170 - CL1
Comes with extra wing, tail and battery
Flies well and stands up to hard landings
Can be flown on 27 MHz or 72 MHz
http://www.toytx.com/thawk3chrtf.html
T-Hawk - Without Radio - add your radio and receiver
http://www.readytoflyfun.com/wittran.html
T-Hawk Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ighlight=THawk
Videos
http://www.readytoflyfun.com/thawkvideos.html
Easy Star - RTF - $180 - CL1
Super tough foam. Comes with 72 MHz radio in the US.
Good parkflyer and a good glider
Radio in RTF package can be used to fly other planes
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240025.asp
Easy Star - ARF - Add you own radio gear
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240009.asp
Discussion Thread on Easy Star
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258656
Video - touch and gos
http://plawner.org/video/easygo.wmv
Video - Testing the plane's behavior
http://plawner.org/video/easystar.wmv
ALMOST READY TO FLY and EASY TO BUILD KITS - STARTER PLANES
Some of the planes in the previous group are available ARF as indicated.
Below are ARF and kit planes. You will need to buy a radio if you don't have
one, so you might want to read these articles on radios. Radios. The
articles are written for sailplane beginners, but all the info applies to
electrics too.
Entry Level Radios - If you have to go cheap
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=44
Computer Radios - The recommended path for almost everyone
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=65
ARF typically means you are not gluing balsa pieces together, then covering
with Monocote or some other shrink film. Below are ARFs and some are very
easy to build kits. In each case you must add your own radio, receiver,
servos, speed control, batteries and battery charger. They all come with a
motor.
Slow stick - $35 - CL2/3
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...&products_id=2
or
Slow stick Complete Package incl radio - $150
(need battery charger)
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=602
Best flown in still to under 5 mph breeze. This is an excellent choice for
people who have a smaller space to fly.
Can also be flown indoors in a gym or similar space.
The RTF Slo-V above is essentially a copy of this plane.
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=GWS1040
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hreadid=122951
Tiger Moth - $50 CL 2/3
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...products_id=20
or
Tiger moth Complete Package incl. radio - $150
(need battery charger)
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=343
Best flown in still to under 5 mph breeze.
This is an excellent choice for people who have a smaller space to fly. Can
also be flown indoors in a gym or similar space. Cool looking little plane.
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=GWS1020
Review
http://www.backyardflyer.com/BY/articles/tiger_moth.asp
Tipsey - $55 CL 1
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/tipsy.htm
Review
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/pdf/gr6232.pdf
http://rcgroups.com/links/index.php?...at=198&id=3871
Magpie - Using the trainer wing Easy to build Foam kit - $50 - CL2
Has trainer wing AND an available sport wing
Master the first, then advance to the second.
http://www.mountainmodels.com/magpie.php
discussion threads
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...51#post3502851
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=SmoothE+build
Video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/Magpie.wmv
SmoothE - Easy to build Balsa and foam CL2
Build as 3 Channel Slow Flyer
Or optional 4 channel aileron trainer
http://www.mountainmodels.com/smoothe.php
Discussion Threads
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=SmoothE+build
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...&page=19&pp=15
Funny video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/SmoothEsmall.WMV
Balsa Wood Kits - If you like to build with wood, these are highly
recommended.
Dandy CL2
http://www.mountainmodels.com/dandy.php
Build thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hlight=SmoothE
Video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/dandy.wmv
Dust Stick CL2
http://www.mountainmodels.com/duskstik.php
05-03-2005, 10:01 PM
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RE: Graupner Tipsy or GWS Slow Stick
wow thank you! I think ill go with the tipsy because of the smooth characteristicts and the long flight time
Mike
Mike
05-04-2005, 04:50 PM
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RE: Graupner Tipsy or GWS Slow Stick
ORIGINAL: ultramag1234
wow thank you! I think ill go with the tipsy because of the smooth characteristicts and the long flight time
Mike
wow thank you! I think ill go with the tipsy because of the smooth characteristicts and the long flight time
Mike
1) Start a build thread - EVERYONE like a build thread. You help others learn and you can ask questions in the build thread. You will have so much help you won't know what to do with it all.
2) ) if you have a digital camera, take photos of the build and post them
3) Flight reports! We want to know how you are doing!
Good luck pilot!
Hey, you been drinking? Your plane is looking a little Tipsy!
