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    Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    Hey all,

    as a big Parkzone fan (PZ original brushed J3 Cub, original brushed Super Decathlon-(rest in pieces)-, Mustang (2), FW-190, Spitfire, T-28 Trojan, and Corsair pilot) I haunt the Parkzone website fairly regularly and saw this today: http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Def...ProdID=PKZ1800

    It's BRUSHLESS!!!!!
    It's a Mustang!!!!
    It comes either as a BNF (for DSM radios)or RTF!!!
    It comes with a Li-Po Battery and charger!!!
    You can add an optional Rudder with 1 extra servo!
    Looks like another winner from Parkzone!!!


    Cheers from the desert,
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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    It looks great! The aileron servo on my original PZ Mustang just went and so did the battery pack, and I was considering throwing hundreds of dollars into it to make it brushless and lipo. But with this out now it just makes much more sense to go with the BNF! Terrific news, I just wish they had done it earlier, I only bought my Mustang this past fall... would have rather not wasted the $150 that I paid for it!
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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    Oh, wow. One of my favorite Mustangs, Gunfighter. I might have to save my pennies and get one soon.
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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    WAY TO GO PARKZONE!

    Important missions must be accomplished first, of course, but the real issue is not if, but when, I and every other bona fide fighter enthusiast must procure at least one GUNFIGHTER!

    It will serve in my future armada as the main weapon for use under the worst flying conditions along side the Corsair in demonstration of the power and sophistication of historic fighter planes.

    ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT DEVELOPMENT!

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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    Just orderedthe BNFfive minutes ago online. My LHS will have them on June 30th here in Atlantic Canada (Dartmouth, Nova Scotia). It will look very nice next to my T-28 and my new Corsair (coming Friday) on the field. For those who are curious, the price for the BNF in CAN dollars is $208.00 before taxes (add 13%) - shipping included. Not bad for such an excellent product!

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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    Guys...one of my fave planes is the 'Stang (in any form!!!). But I'm worried, and I won't buy one of the new ones till I see a review - the reason is.....why did they use the ZX10 TX system? Why didn't they use the DX5 TX etc (a la F4U), and are the servos 5 or 3-wire? What is the rating for the ESC and is it the crap all-in-one Parkzone system? There are no fying clubs I know in the UK that will accept a 27mhx plane at their sites...its got to be 35mhz (peg-board system) or the 2.4 system used by Futaba or Spectrum. Its a pity....a full range 'Stang using DX6i and (maybe) 1800 3S lipo would be brilliant. The isea is great but the execution is Cr........!!!! Sorry to rain on your parade.
    Born to fly and loose my postings on RCU......

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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    Just to clarify that last post - DX6i/Futaba gives multiple computerised trim settings at the flick of a button, and when you have a plane like the 'Stang you will want everything it can give - 2.4 should have been the way to go.
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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF


    ORIGINAL: tam popo

    Guys...one of my fave planes is the 'Stang (in any form!!!). But I'm worried, and I won't buy one of the new ones till I see a review - the reason is.....why did they use the ZX10 TX system? Why didn't they use the DX5 TX etc (a la F4U), and are the servos 5 or 3-wire? What is the rating for the ESC and is it the crap all-in-one Parkzone system? There are no fying clubs I know in the UK that will accept a 27mhx plane at their sites...its got to be 35mhz (peg-board system) or the 2.4 system used by Futaba or Spectrum. Its a pity....a full range 'Stang using DX6i and (maybe) 1800 3S lipo would be brilliant. The isea is great but the execution is Cr........!!!! Sorry to rain on your parade.
    We were focused on getting a good brushless product under $200 in the US, and going with a DX5e would have pushed the price significantly over $200. The servos are 3-wire, and the ESC is a good-quality, 18A, separate component, not an all-in-one.

    If you want a Spektrum system, get the BNF version and use it with your existing transmitter, or purchase a DX5e transmitter only (SPMR5500), which in the US is only $59.99.
    David Eichstedt, Horizon Hobby
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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    I want one too! But glad to see spektrum not included in this one. The dx5e that came with my corsair has been trouble free, the one that came with bro's radian is no good. Random failures, not trustworthy at all, really a poor radio system for any price. Mine is going in the dumpster before flying my corsair again as after seeing with my own eyes, I cannot trust spektrum radio gear. The mustang should really rock though! Must resist for just a bit longer though, but it will be mine, oh yes, it will be mine....
    MMmm..Piepants..

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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    Guys - justto let everyone know....David (Horizon Hobbies) sent an E-mail to me explaining that the PNP 'Stang will be coming, and yes I want one!!!! I have a feeling that this Bird will be a winner - 3 wire, b/less and lipo....what more do you want. And the best looking plane ever made. Thank Gawd for decent customer service.......
    Born to fly and loose my postings on RCU......

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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    FInally admitting that the previous Mustang was either underpowered for it's weight or too heavy for it's power. Abit late but better than never. Yay Horizon.
    ORIGINAL: David Eichstedt


    ORIGINAL: tam popo

    Guys...one of my fave planes is the 'Stang (in any form!!!). But I'm worried, and I won't buy one of the new ones till I see a review - the reason is.....why did they use the ZX10 TX system? Why didn't they use the DX5 TX etc (a la F4U), and are the servos 5 or 3-wire? What is the rating for the ESC and is it the crap all-in-one Parkzone system? There are no fying clubs I know in the UK that will accept a 27mhx plane at their sites...its got to be 35mhz (peg-board system) or the 2.4 system used by Futaba or Spectrum. Its a pity....a full range 'Stang using DX6i and (maybe) 1800 3S lipo would be brilliant. The isea is great but the execution is Cr........!!!! Sorry to rain on your parade.
    We were focused on getting a good brushless product under $200 in the US, and going with a DX5e would have pushed the price significantly over $200. The servos are 3-wire, and the ESC is a good-quality, 18A, separate component, not an all-in-one.

    If you want a Spektrum system, get the BNF version and use it with your existing transmitter, or purchase a DX5e transmitter only (SPMR5500), which in the US is only $59.99.

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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    I wonder why they went with an 18A ESC... is this one lighter/smaller than the Trojan and Corsair?  Those now come with 30A ESCs, I think.

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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    ORIGINAL: downunderdog, I wonder why they went with an 18A ESC... is this one lighter/smaller than the Trojan and Corsair? Those now come with 30A ESCs, I think.
    Dude, to save money and keep the cost down. The new 'stang is very streamlined i.e. less drag. Others see the potential for much increased speed just by swapping props and dropping in an new ESC. Of course, your amps go up and flight times go down. So, if ParkZone keeps the ESC at 18amps and underprops it a bit,it saves cost on the battery andESC and helpskeep the opening price down.

    After you buy it, feel free to hop it up all you want....

    BTW, if you want to try flying this new model via RC-SIM, check out this post.



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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    Looks sweet. I'll have to get a BNF version when it comes out.
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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF


    ORIGINAL: -pkh-
    Looks sweet. I'll have to get a BNF version when it comes out.
    Ditto... I'm to the point where I have my local hobby store just keep my receipts in a cigar box under the counter. I told 'em, "If I take them home, there's a good chance you'll never see me again."


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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    No landing gear? What a bummer.

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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF


    ORIGINAL: friedclutch

    No landing gear? What a bummer.
    Here's a discussion we're having about retro-fitting the retracts used on the Eflite Sea Fury to the new P-51.

    But, we need the gosh-darn plane already!!

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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    They’re Hereeeeeee….


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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    I wish I lived in the States... on occasions like this. Mine won't be here for another week or so! Oh well, I'll keep flying the old version for now!

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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    Picked mine up tonight after work, charged the battery, bind it to my dx7 and got one flight before the sun went down. All I can say is freaking sweet man, just wish it came with retracts.
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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    So how does she hand-launch? Any torque roll after launch?
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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    ORIGINAL: -pkh-

    So how does she hand-launch? Any torque roll after launch?
    YES - NO.

    I flew four batteries, ran home and managed to recharge two of them then went back to the field. The last flight was cut short when it started to rain hard... or I might still be there

    It’s an overused clichΓ© here on the boards, but she flies like she’s on rails.

    hand-launching:

    Once you go full throttle she just wants to fly. You can’t lift or move the plane after applying full power, so have her up and your arm cocked before you push the go-stick. Then just gently toss her pointing up at about 30-degrees. She'll continue like that until you turn around or you reach the next zip-code (your call).

    However, it’s not as fast as I thought (hoped) it would be. Who’s going to be the first to [successfully] drop in a bigger motor? I just ordered two motor mount spacers from eBay that have been used on the T-28 and Corsair. The spacers are made simply enough and the bolt pattern on both the stock motor mounts and the back of the motors should line up.

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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    Bo-Jangles,

    Looks like you stuffed a 3S 2100mAh pack in it. How's it fly with the bigger battery? CG still OK? Does it fit w/o any modifications?

    I have 8 3S 2100mAh packs for my Strykers, so I'm hoping this Mustang will fly well with them too.
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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    ORIGINAL: -pkh-

    Bo-Jangles,

    Looks like you stuffed a 3S 2100mAh pack in it. How's it fly with the bigger battery? CG still OK? Does it fit w/o any modifications?

    I have 8 3S 2100mAh packs for my Strykers, so I'm hoping this Mustang will fly well with them too.

    Trim out a little of the ramp aft of the battery compartment so the bigger batteries will sit lower.
    Ramp Trimming

    As for weight: Set your CG with the stock battery then, when using the bigger batteries, stuff a small piece of foam rubber in first. That helps to keep the extra weight of the heavier batteries back closer to the CG. Either way, it still flies sweet.


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    RE: Parkzone NEW BRUSHLESS (YES!!!) P-51 Mustang RTF and BNF

    I made a few more flight with mine last night, put a 2200 zippy pack in it and had no trim changes due to the heavier battery. Half way finished with the retract install. Will post pic's later when I have it all done
    Revver Bro #233


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