glazier808

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godspeed!

Wnuk

I managed to sneak one flight in with the 109 today. About 4 minutes in she was coming across the field and I rolled her inverted down pretty low. About 5 feet off the ground I see a part come flying off[X(] Thinking she lost a vertical stab for some reason I expectd to see her go right in. Quickly added full down elevator and rolled back to upright about 10 feet off the ground. Hmmm......... I still have control [&:]. That's when it hit me, the canopy flew off and not the stab Completed the pattern and landed safely without incident. The guy at the LHS had the same thing happen to him. I'll be adding a "T" pin before its next flight. Also need to do something to minimize the scoop damage from the belly landings, she is starting to get really beat up.

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nice job maintaining your wits, and landing it in one...er just two pieces. lol

Casey

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Three batteries were peaked out earlier this week with the intension of testing our finalized "wet belly landing" technology that will surely solve all of my problems - famous last words. I failed to fly a single mission this week. I shall do better.

Casey, yes, I know that the under wing cannons are located too close in, but, further out might make it harder to keep the detachable mounting system from detaching on landing. Besides, they look really cool especially when I fly close enough to see them, and they work great where they are now. Only a purist would insist that they be mounted in a more scale position which I will do if I receive too much flack, of course. My 20 mm cannons cost 3/4 ounce and only a very slight loss (that I may be imagining) of vertical performance.

To prevent scooping any water at all as well as minimizing any tendency of overheating, the bottom air scoop is blocked off by clear plastic packing tape. Additional cooling is provided not only by the ram air vent on the left side of the fuselage as pictured on CALL TO GLORY, but also by trimming material off the top front of the cowl directly behind the spinner, and drilling a 3/16 inch hole through the "firewall area" to the ESC area. This allows air to be easily drawn in through the spinner openings for, hopefully, adequate cooling.

Another item found to be very interesting was that after using two (2) stock 109 batteries, they ended up at 11.1 - 11.2 volts after fifteen minute flights on both the Messerschmitt and the GUNFIGHTER. These batteries have been used on numerous flights limited to seven to ten minutes. It was great to find out that with a minute of so of full throttle flying and then pulling back on the power for easier maneuvers that fifteen minutes flying time was not only very practical but even managed to leave enough power for safe storage voltage levels.

I found that like the P-51, the 109 is also capable of knife edge flight at less than full power. I continue to find that the 109 is noticeably more comfortable flying outside loops than is the case for the 51. I may be applying unintentional aileron. More practice/tuning is needed.

Keep those pictures coming, they are really great!

Jim, thanks for your comments as well as your enthusiasm. Great save by the way!

The recessing I do on the "canopy/ battery" cover may be helping to prevent similar near disasters to my machines. Also, in anticipation of possible landing damage, I reinforced all of the vulnerable foam areas with clear packing tape before the maiden. Thanks to Casey's inspiration my new wing mounted guns/skids provide tremendous protection for landings.

You guys help make this a fun thread. I hope you won't allow anything to discourage you. We loose a lot of good pilots in our dangerous skies. So . . . CHECK SIX!


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mad...where do I find the pics of your 109?

Casey

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Casey, please click on the "CALL TO GLORY" url below. 109 pictures and text are located on page 6,7, and 8.

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Wnuk, a recent article in Model Aviation magazine reported that unnecessarily long battery leads can cause interference. After an unnerving glitch recently I got to thinking about the possibility that installing the battery with the lead outs to the back rather than to the front may be a bad idea. Also, with the leads in front it should be a lot easier to reach the ESC comfortably. So, as much as possible I will always be installing the battery leads forward in the future.

Casey, I finally read your excellent article about the Bf-109. I then tried to find other information on the web, but couldn't find anything else that could be compared to the information in the article you provided, amazing. No wonder I am having so much fun with my Messerschmitts.

At the moment it would seem that the only best way to beat a 109 with a Mustang with both planes in perfect condition would be for the 51 to fly at maximum speed and use only slashing hit and run tactics against an equally piloted 109. The real truth is probably limited to pilot ability and other factors like bubble canopies, super vision, etc.. If I were flying a P-51 at anything less than full throttle I would be really nervous in a fight with a 2,000 hp Messerschmitt. With its 7-1 kill ratio something in all the reporting doesn't seem to quite add up.

Any thoughts?

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Just off the cuff on the ratio of kills, something to remember....for example just to make it easy it was all about numbers...we had more....to simplify... they could shoot down our planes at a 7 to 1 ratio, and still not make a real dent in what we were putting up in the air. Also keep in mind that not all of the 7 in the 7 to 1 were fighters that they were shooting down. Therefor leaving more fighters to contend with each sortie. Most of the time the targets were the heavy bombers, not the escorts. On the other hand German production could not keep up with the loss of even a 7 to 1 kill ratio(more so midway and later in the war). Early in the war the Germans had sufficient numbers to be uneffected. It was not unusual for veteran ace pilots to be shot down over friendly skys to fly again within hours, in a brand new plane.

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t57f100

well i got mine on christmas and found all the weak spots this plane has to offer we fly off grass and its hard on our planes rutty kind of place so when i got my bind and fly my wife also picked me up another replacement air frame just for this reason and it worked so i cut the replacement in 6 sections from front ot back fuse only of course and i am going to put wooden dowels in those locations with hot glue the tail on this unit is weak after doing this after i noticed a crack in it and after a tree jumped in my way the wooden dowl set up didnt stress at all not even a flinch so ill see after i get it all back toghter i used a sharp razor to cut the foam and its clean i just need to glue it back toghter now. i fly mine with a forty amp speed controller and a eflite 15 its awesome

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my me109 was lonely so i got it a stable mate.

Joe

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lucky! Very nice indeed...have we been up in our new mate yet?

Casey

Pangaea1

Hi guys. I'd like to join in the fun if you don't mind. I got my PK ME Bf-109G about a week ago and put it together in about 45 minutes.
Balances nicely with a Zippy 11.1V 20C 2200mah pack. This is one scale beauty I must say....it looks so nice I didn't even want to fly it.

Took it out to the Flea Market parking lot....bit windy with overcast grey winter clouds at 3:30 pm yesterday Feb. 17th.
Contact of Radio...Plane....install canopy....check control surfaces....check CG again.....set radio timer to 4 mins....roll out on the asphalt...deep breath and slow applied throttle....she lifted her tail...more throttle....and up elevator......eeyikes...fast bank to the left on take off...(Phew,only my catlike reflexes saved it)....rolled to the right and gained as much altitude as I could before trimming. I believe the supercharger vent could have been the culprit by acting as a wind blocker thingy and pulled her to the left..dunno.
Quick trim out and she was the best flying plane I've ever flown. Loops, rolls, cuban 8's, death spirals, inverted....she's a blast.
At two mins into the flight, there was a loud WuWuWuWu I believe coming from the motor.....decided to land her.
Brought her in from the right.....lined her up to the asphalt ....let her drop...reduce throttle...let her drop...reduce throttle.....just before touch down...zero throttle...smooth landing on front wheels.....back wheel touch down....little dance to the right...safe.

This plane looks good like a real warbird when it touches down. Wow.

She's a keeper.

Cheers.

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Glad to see you've joined us in the fight! lol

She is a beauty isn't she...

Casey

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[8D] t57f100, Pangaea, welcome to Messerschmitt sheer excitement and just plain pure pleasure! Let's face it this airplane is going to really be hard to beat, especially with all of the kind of fun people who keep buying, flying, and writing about them.

That was the most amazing maiden I have ever read. I blamed my takeoff crash on torque, a too far back CG, and my still too poor rudder control skills. I appreciate the need for altitude before attempting to trim the ship. I am practicing getting altitude quickly and flying as close as possible in case I ever need be able to fly in small spaces that circumstances sometimes can force upon us.

paladin, can't wait for a flying report on your new jet.

Casey, thanks for your thoughts. I would have probably come to the same conclusions myself eventually. Your article was definitely different from most of what I have read.

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thank you mad tv i just finished my me 109 looks good a little nose heavy because i have the eflite 15 motor i am able to use 3 cell or 4 cell lipo batteries i reamrked my cg for the batteries and will madien aagin tommorow will right in to let you guys know the skinny did any one else notice the canopy goes on a little tuff i watched mine go on and the tail of the plane straightens out i think the canopy acts like a stiffner for the fuse lets face it this fuse is weak but heck i love this plane i fly under a little throttle when landing it seems to wing tip stall if i just kill the power

MAX HEADSPEED

This is one cool flying model. It really is a challenge to fly in comparison with the T28 and well worth every minute.

I also wanted to remind fellow hun 'HUN BUCKET' drivers about the OEM warnings concerning motor replacement by re-posting this quote from the manual...

Note: Another available option is the 2-bladed spinner
(PKZ4908). The included motor has a low Kv that was
engineered to match the included 3-bladed propeller. If
a two-bladed propeller is used with the stock motor, we
suggest using a 12 x 12 electric propeller. In addition,
the E-flite Apprentice motor is a higher Kv and is a dropin
fit for the stock Bf-109G motor.
Warning: Use of the 3-bladed prop with the Apprentice
motor will result in excess current and likely damage
the motor.


Happy landings

t57f100

not sure what is a hun bucket is just because i would like to know? hello all i madiened this past weekend the report is it flew better than my out of the box bnf play did. wow much more stable in flight and little wing tip stall it flys really well i took off the stock landing gear because it just gets ripped off in the area i fly as a matter of fact all my landing gear on all my planes and my wifes planes have been changed over except the eflite piper pawnee she has its a tuff piece for sure.i am going to switch all the taildraggers i have over to the tail wheeel assemby like on the me109 the corsair has a weak tail wheel also.the big change in landing gear was on my h9 fokker the stock gear was tuff to run on my area and i think its a hande full anyway since i am not a stocker like most of you this works for me but i think its cool when you see a plane from stock take off to landing.i just love to fly period so if looks different but works for me thats all i care about.the extra stiffness on my me109 seemed to make this bird much easier to fly but still a handfull for the less experienced.the t28 is a much better stronger flyer and can handle more abuse than the me109 that you guys are right about for sure.

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The term 'Hun bucket' is a derogatory statement, slang, in that the word Hun is a disparagement towards the German aggressors, especially during WWI and WWII. It's in reference to their ancestry deriving from the nomadic and warlike Asian people, the Huns, who sacked large sections of eastern and central Europe and who attained their greatest influence and power under Attila during 5th century a.d.
A barbarous, destructive person; vandal.
Bucket is slang for their aircraft they were in.
You've probably heard the phrase 'Hun in the sun'
The term 'Hun in the sun' in in reference to a German pilot attacking from an angle with the sun at his 6 and the opposition's point of view making him difficult to see if not invisible to the intended prey.
 

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Great to see more participation on this thread! This has to be the nicest BNF I have ever flown.

Wish I had more to contribute but lots of snow and cold temps with wind have kept me from doing any flying with it lately. Hopefully the weather breaks in a few more weeks.

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Lots of rain and cold north winds have kept me grounded here on the northwestern frount lol...


Casey

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Casey- I see nicad batteries in your first pic. You don't run them in your 109 do ya? Are you just using them as props to keep it from rolling off the table? You really did a terrific job with the repaint and drop, I really admire it.

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Thank you for your kind words!

and yes, they are just to keep the plane from rolling off the top of the car for the pic lol...

The drop works flawlessly....

Casey

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This is the scheme I'm going with on my Fliteskin Me 109 F

whatcha think?

Casey

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My ongoing battle with the squirrels in the park is on hold still, as weather has me socked in. Their doom hangs at a ready under the belly of my 109 lol....a good ground strafe and well placed bomb will win the day again I'm sure!!!!

Wnuk

Wow, that grey and yellow combo looks great together! Will you do it in Monokote or is it a fiberglass fuse? Have you started the project yet?