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Old 04-05-2010, 07:39 AM
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Looks sweet Lee, your doing a great job with it!
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Thanks Scott.. It's definitely becoming a love hate deal..

Looks like yours is coming along nicely as well..
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Ok, after a couple week break to build some quickies I'm back on the AR-6 project.. Up next, the parting board for the fuselage.. I'm not going to lie, I'm not looking forward to this part of the project..

I should have some pics after this weekend.. Stay tuned..
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hi, it will be posible that you can mail me the cad format of your plane? or link me to any plane to build a model of this category?
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After seeing Dave English's Endeavor at the Nat's in Muncie a couple weeks ago, I decided on a couple small changes to my AR-6 design.. Nothing too radical just some little things.. One being more pronounced wing fillets and the internal rudder control.. Dave's setup is very clean and looked like it flew very well..

The foam core wing is just about ready for finishing.. If it flies well with that I will use it for the wing mold..

Life really seems to get in the way of these projects but hopefully I can get back on task and get something done.
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>>>Life really seems to get in the way of these projects but hopefully I can get back on task and get something done.<<<


sounds like the beer fridge is empty


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Yes lets go break time is over!!!

It seems to me like there is an Invictum that needs to go also?

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>>>Life really seems to get in the way of these projects but hopefully I can get back on task and get something done.<<<


sounds like the beer fridge is empty


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Nope, I live in Wisconsin, an empty beer fridge is a gross misdemeanor

I only need one more thing and I'll be ready for your project Bill.. I'll get it on order this week..
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I guess I better get the beer fridge cleaned out and stocked before you stop down
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I'll bring the beer.. Least I could do for you letting me crash at the house... I suppose a bottle of creek for a house warming present would be in order also..
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You like that Bud crap, right? I'll be stocked, don't worry

But a little creek would be great, although its gotten so damn expensive I haven't had it in a while. Cheaper to buy at the bar.
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That Bud crap is a heck of a lot better than that swill that normally shows up at our races
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Come on guys, Coors Light all the way!

Glad to see you back at it Lee, mine is about ready for the paint shop. I may get some pics up later this week, I have been working on getting my 428 & Q40 ready to paint and mold at the same time. Almost there now...
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Grain Belt Premium, only way to go
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Hey Lee,

I think I seen somewhere that you had posted a round cowl Q40 that you were thinking about doing it looked way cool what was it and do you still have the rendering? Maybe if you are not going to do it I might want to tackle it!

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Hey Dave..

I called that the Miss Fury-ous.. It was a rendering of the 2007 September Fury... I had only gotten as far as a top and side view.. I'm pretty sure I have them somewhere.. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure I sent them to my "cad guy" (thanks Mr. James)..

So what, are you looking for another project already? Shoot me and email and we can talk about it.. llavalley at gmail.com
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After much internal debate, I'm back to an ugly fuse plug.. I messed around with getting the H-stab just right.. In trying to make it a plug in stab from the start, it has made it almost impossible to get things straight and symmetrical from one side to the other.. After looking at the way Scott is doing his Invictus, I realized that would be a much easier way to make sure the stab will be straight.. I've now got a big hole where the H-stab fillets once were.. I actually sat there with the dremel and tried to figure out a better way but alas, I turned it on and started cutting.. In the end I know it will be a better setup but it still sucks to see all that work scattered around the shop in the form of sawdust.. Oh well, at least the wing plug is done (Thanks Pat G.) and looking good.

Our last quickie race up here is next weekend.. That will mark the official start of the building season for me.
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Sorry about the tail Lee, that is a bummer. [] However, you will still be able to create the plug in stabs if you do it like I am. My plan is to create the one piece stab mold, lay up the tail section and trim so it can be placed in the stab mold (like a splitter), and then lay up each stab 1/2. You could make all the future stab parts this way, or go ahead and create separate molds if desired. I think you will be fine.

Good luck in the races this weekend!!
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You know how it goes Scott, just about the time you think you're done you see something like this.. I wasn't surprised actually, it comes with the territory.

Now that racing is done for the year I can finally get back to it.. I will be picking up the test wing on Friday so I can get the wing saddle and fillets finished up.. Once that's done and the whole tail fiasco is done it will be ready for paint and polish.. Then comes the fun, the parting board
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Last Friday I got my prototype wing from Pat G. I bet he has 40 hours in it and it's not painted yet, very well done.. Now comes the question of how far to move it up into the fuse.. Looking at Mr. English's version of the Endeavor, it would appear that I have some room to work and still maintain the 12 sq/in cross section requirement.. I'm at just under 14 sq/in currently.. Right now, I've got lines scribed on the fuse at about 3/8" above the original location.. If anyone sees any issue with moving it please let me know, I'll be hacking on it this weekend. Once I move the wing, I will get it all zero'd and potted in, then from there I will tackle the H-stab rework and get that zero'd as well.. Good thing I cleaned the shop
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12.5 sq. inches Lee, life would really suck if you went too small and flunked the final test! [] Mine ended up at 13, and I am o.k. with that, since that's the point that all 3 of the maximums are at! So are you doing like me, and already have the V2 laid out!
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Hello Lee,

When I moved my wing up I added to the top of the canopy for two reasons one was to maintain the minimum height requirement and two was to maintain the area rule. Be careful because 3/8 of an inch at bottom is alot of area! Also move it up a smidge more than you think you need a little extra muffler clearence is a good thing. Keep in mind also that if you run a Jett motor in it ( I dont know if you are yet or not ) They are about 1/8 of an inch shorter than an LS Nelson all other parts are the same basically. I put a Jett in one of mine and had to slice and move the side in a little to maintain the 3/4 inch exposed rule. We will all be using them someday. Just something to think about.

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Yes, 12.5 sq/in, that's what I meant

I actually cheated the nose in a bit from scale so I should be fine for the exposed head rule.. As far as the cross section goes I checked it again and am actually a hair over 14 sq/in with the wing on.. I can probably afford to remove the 3/8" but maybe I'll start small and keep checking it..
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After much internal debate, I went ahead with moving the wing up into the fuse by about 3/8".. We're now back to ugly again.. In the pics you can see the area I removed as they are now bondo colored instead of white.. The good part is I don't have the cut out for the muffler clearance any more.. I think it was a good call and according to the CAD guy (thanks again Gary) I should be right around 13 sq/in in at the TE of the wing.. I'm hoping to have the "hoop" done this week to send to Jim Allen for the final approval of the fuse..

Next up, the dreaded H-stab.. I've been putting this off for quite a while but I'm at the point now where I have to address it..
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