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    Smasher molds going to a new home

    The molds for the Smasher Q-500 plane that I created are going to a new home this week. I have made arrangements to send them to Kevin Matney of www.MatneyModels.com and he may or may not choose to offer the Smasher as part of his large stable of excellent planes.

    I designed the Smasher quite a while ago and did extensive design and build threads on both RCUniverse and www.RCPRO.org … I tested the plane in a number of configurations before ever letting any out to anyone else. I did finally let some out back in 2009 to James Barr, Lewis Schwab, Bill Vargas, and some other people. All had decent or good flight reports about the plane. It is a smooth flying plane and I always enjoyed flying mine. But I was usually pushing mine and trying out prototypes built from wood fuselages. The fuselages were jig built and were effectively identical. I still have the jigs (and all of the plans in Visio).

    I was going to try to produce them and sell them. It turned out that I wasn’t very good at epoxy lay-ups and the Smasher fuselage is a fairly demanding lay-up. The first ones I did seemed pretty easy. I had painted them white in the mold. In 2009 when I tried to start selling them, I was not painting them in the mold. I was having eye problems due to diabetes plus my stamina was not good as I had ballooned to around 300 pounds. I’m now down to 240 and feeling much better. In the 70’s when I was laying up the National Championship winning Stegall Minnows for my Dad, they were polyester resin and only took about 30 minutes to lay up a half. There was no joining in the mold. Today’s technique of epoxy joined in the mold is typically a 2 -3 hour affair and I just wasn’t up to it. Kevin Matney does it all the time and he is good at it.

    Just after Christmas I sent an email to Scott Hartman offering him a set of molds to play with. He said he would like another fuselage or two, but he wasn’t interested in my molds right now. He suggested that I get in touch with Kevin and he hooked us up. Kevin and I talked and Kevin thought about it and we worked out an arrangement.

    I am sending him these molds today. They did have primer in them and I was going to send them that way. But I decided that since the primer had been in them for almost two years, that I had better take it out. Good thing, as it was fairly stuck in a few places. Kevin may have to compound the molds to get them up to his specs.
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    Here are a couple of parts produced from the molds. This was the first Smasher tail ever made. I am sending it to Kevin so that he can see how the hinges were on the ones I made. I'm also sending all of the templates for the balsa and other components that go into the tail.

    This fuselage was one of my blemishes. It may help him see where the trouble spots are and he will have a better idea of what he is making the first time. I always find it easier when I have something to reference. It is easier to make patterns for the fiberglass cloth, carbon fiber, etc.

    I had gone overboard with the 12K tow on the tail. It is not necessary at all. Probably part of my downfall ... overkill.
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    I still have the plugs and the parting plates that i used to create the molds for the Smasher. At one point I was going to pot the S8064 Viper wing onto the Smasher fuselage and create a plane called the Lance. I would not have even had to make a new parting plate since it is split down the side.

    The Smasher with the composite tail has to have the servos positioned properly to avoid balance problems and the tail has to be built light enough. I was not building the composite tails light enough. With a balsa tail, it is not an issue. The key is not placing the servos too far back.

    One thing Kevin and I talked about was possibly extending the nose. But I'm going to hang on to the plugs for the time being unless I get a decent offer on them.
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    Handing off this set of molds is a relatively low risk situation for me. I have male molds for the fuselage and tail that I made before I ever prepped the female molds. It slowed down the process of creating the first planes, but I can produce more molds whenever I feel like it.

    And if there is a disaster with the originals or if they wear out, more can be produced.
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    Great stuff Don,

    Love the craftsmanship and work. I also appreciate the e-mail you sent out the other day regarding the restablishment of your efforts to the sport of racing and your family. I have a response sitting in my drafts awaiting some feedback prior to sending on. Thanks for the forum.
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    I'm waiting for the mail.
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    Kevin,

    It will be a few more days. I didn't get them out on Sunday because I was trying to find the patterns for the composite tail. I can't find what I did with the contents of that table. But I will shortly. You will be able to make your own templates, but I'm sure I will find mine.

    I've had a deadline for work. I worked more than 7 hours on Sunday, and 10+ on Monday and Tuesday. Haven't left the house since Saturday. I got to bed at 9pm and sometimes as early at 8pm. I get up between 3am and 4am and my career development or hobby time is until I get ready for work. I find if I do planes at night I can't get to sleep. If I do them in the morning I'm charged up for the day and ready to go.

    Because of the delay, there are a couple of bonuses with this shipment. Included are ...

    The Dave Norman Seeker tail molds - not Dave's, but a set made from the same male molds. These are not sanded, compounded, and don't have the clamping holes in them. So there is some prep time involved.

    The Duane Gall / Ed Smith Stinger molds - They have epoxy primer in them. You may have to take the primer out. It took me about 3 hours to get the primer out of the Smasher molds, and I just don't have the time to take it out of the Stinger molds. You can probably do a faux lay-up of each half and pull it out that way, but you may not want to take a chance.
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home



    Why don't you just email him. We don't care about your personal business..

    Just saying.


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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home


    ORIGINAL: kkf1977



    Why don't you just email him. We don't care about your personal business..

    Just saying.

    Who is we?? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    So you like to read other peoples emails to each other? WEIRD.. Sounds like you need a life.

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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    2 posts, both here, and he is already a critic. Been a member since 2010 and this is all he has had to say. A real contributor.[>:]

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    ORIGINAL: kkf1977

    So you like to read other peoples emails to each other? WEIRD.. Sounds like you need a life.
    So I guess you won't be Friend'ing me on Facebook then?
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    Denis,

    So since you have 2000+ posts and I only have 2 that makes you better then me? I am just saying why post personal emails of business between 2 people on a public forum.

    There now I have 3 post.

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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    You said it kkf, it is a public forum.  I think you wanting to control someone elses thread is wrong.  This is just my not so humble opinion and we all know what opinions are like so, I apologize to Don for taking up the band width to call you out on your post.
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    Dear Barry,

    I am sorry I hurt your feelings. I see you and Mr Stegal have a very tight bond and you are in protection mode. This is a copy of a copy of an email I was going to send you, but since we are using forums for emails now Ifigured why fight them just join them..

    Also thanks so much for your opinion.

    Thanks
    Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook, Emails etc. you are no longer needed..

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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    kkf, I have PM'd you.
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    WHY??

    I thought we agreed to post everything on a public forum????

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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    I don't want to hijack Don's thread.
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    To all of you that I don't have your persona email address the molds show and look good may be this weekend I can get 1 lay up.
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    I got a Smasher fuselage from Kevin yesterday. he does much better fiberglass work than I do.

    The nose on this fuselage is VERY strong and the voids are minimal. A very nice fuselage.

    This will probably inspire me to start flying AMA class racing in 2013 and beyond.
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    Those of you that want a Smasher can get one by ordering a Mad Dog and adding a note get the Smasher instead. The kit price runs $100 plus shipping.

    http://www.matneymodels.com/q500.html

    Kevin's email is: matneymodels at gmail.com (change at to @)

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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    Glad you like the glass work!!!
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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    Kevin,

    Are you going to do the composite tails as well?

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    RE: Smasher molds going to a new home

    Are you going to do the composite tails as well?
    It will cost more for the C tails. What is a good price to you for them?
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