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Old 03-24-2012, 08:22 AM
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I am just finishing up a new Havok......ready for clear. This plane was drawn by Dan Kane and will be available from Joe Tropea very soon. This kit has a slightly different construction making it almost impossible not to build dead straight. The quality and design of the kit are phenomenal......parts fit is spot on. The Havok has a 66-012 airfoil and will be available with a sheeted wing with skinned hinges, horns installed and CF reinforced trailing edge (I believe). The Rattler is the same fuse designed with a wing saddle that accepts a Viper wing. Hope to get this one in the air within the next couple of weeks and will post a flight report. Here is a link to some pics of my build thread on NEPRO
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:04 PM
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Havok, really? They couldn't come up with an original name?
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:13 PM
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Havok, really? They couldn't come up with an original name?
I didn't name it, just built it!

Is there a Havok already available from someone else??
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Hey cbk07, Very nice did you get my pm on how much biult ready to be covered......Thanks
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:45 PM
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Hey cbk07, Very nice did you get my pm on how much biult ready to be covered......Thanks
Sorry,

I believe he is only offering it in kit form
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Looks great and they are both names in the proud tradition of Quickie names.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:23 PM
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Sorry about the double post.
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Old 03-26-2012, 06:25 AM
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Havok, really? They couldn't come up with an original name?

HaVoK, is what I named it because it is a modified version of my HurriKane. Hence the H for Hurri and the K for Kane, and the V for version. So to answer your question yes it was original. If you had one with this same name, I appologize.

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Looks the same as my HurriKanes but with a bigger and higher aspect ratio tail. Is there any other difference?

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Old 03-26-2012, 08:25 AM
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Denis,

There are other subtle differences. The major being the construction method. I moved away from the 1/64th ply doubler from the nose to the trailing edge and used light ply instead. Changed the servo arrangement, for better CG fit. Changed the construction method for the fuselage to make it next to impossible to build it crooked.

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Old 03-26-2012, 08:42 AM
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Yes I can see in the pictures what you did. I have built about 5 HK fuselages and a couple of Seekers and wouldn't think you could build a crooked one but I guess if the fuselage sides were very different in stiffness it could be a problem. The way you have it now should even take care of that.

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Looks very nice.
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Got some clear on it. Just have to cover the wing and will get some flights on it.

I have built Seekers, Hurrikanes, Vortex's, Intimidators, etc. Like Dan said, the differences are subtle but really do make the build foolproof. The fuse sides are only 1/8" thick, but with all of the interlocking parts and 1/8" doublers it feels extremely rigid. With the quality of todays laser cutting, these things just keep getting easier to build. I am still waiting to find one that is mid-air proof!!

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Thanks for the explination Dan. I designed a plane and called it Havoc back in 1995, and had been flying one off and on since then. It has appeared in several threads here on RCU with pictures. Your HurriKane was a clever name for a design, and I was always partial to my Thumper design (which was so named because of my last name as well). Maybe I'll call my next design the ShatterKane because of my farming ocupation and what happens to quickies in the end.
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:07 AM
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Highplains, again, there was no attempt to steal your thunder. Seriously, HaVoK was born from "a" "V"ersion "o"f "H"urri"K"ane nothing more nothing less. And yes name your next one "ShatterKane" or whatever other "S" word you choose to use.

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Well, not Any other "S" word: Scorpion is taken!!
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Well Scat was already taken.

Due to the polymorphic nature of Quickie design, little is unique other than the name. Wings somehow crawled from underneath the fuselage to the top side when builders assembled Spickler Quickie 500 kits with the fuselage turned over, V-tail's got put on to hide cheating on engines, and fuselage aerodynamics were evenually developed to lower drag by changing the accepted design practice.

The beat goes on.
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Well Scat was already taken.

Due to the polymorphic nature of Quickie design, little is unique other than the name. Wings somehow crawled from underneath the fuselage to the top side when builders assembled Spickler Quickie 500 kits with the fuselage turned over, V-tail's got put on to hide cheating on engines, and fuselage aerodynamics were evenually developed to lower drag by changing the accepted design practice.

The beat goes on.

Agreed

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Bob,
I didn't realize you had a name for your planes, I just called them "Runts". If you really wanted to be accurate with the name... "Left Lane Exit" would've been appropriate considering their takeoff characteristics
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My callers all look left - throw left.

And I did have a variation that we called the Runt with a 13/4" nose and 6" between the wing and tail. It was the former AMA 428 National Record Holder, which must have been the result of some kind of rift in the space time continuum.
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which must have been the result of some kind of rift in the space time continuum.
I think it was...immediately after the switch to the long course....when the record was being reset almost every race
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So when and where will kits be available?
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I believe the laser cutting was done this week and the wings are in process. I will check with Joe for contact info and availability and post here
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You can contact Joe at tropeajm@gmail.com for availability info

Got my wings covered....just need to install a tank, rx, battery and tie up a few loose ends
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